Drinking and eating at same time- Do you wait 30 minutes?

[BLERDgirl 6,417]

I followed the 30/30 rule religiously. I never experienced dry food or dry mouth because I made my food very moist and chewed well. At 7½ mths I don't worry as much about the 30 before, but I am much more comfortable if I wait 30 minute after. Otherwise my belly gets uncomfortably tight like if I were to take that extra 1 or 2 bites I could never finish. 30 minutes after allows time for my food to digest a bit and then I can enjoy my Water.

AMEN! I want to eat the gumbo to both enjoy the roux and to enjoy the crawfish, shrimp, crab, sausage. All of which I can eat in small quantities with no discomfort. So, a small bowl of gumbo no rice will hit the spot for a meal. Yum yum!

So, to clarify, the question was about any dish that has a broth associated with solids. Isn't that the same thing as drinking while eating?

-RC-

Once you are at the soft food stage Soup with bits in it counts as a meal, not a Fluid. It's not considered eating & drinking.

[Inner Surfer Girl 12,015]

To answer your specific question about Gumbo from my perspective and understanding. As a sleever, when you are past the liquid stage, when you eat Gumbo then eat Gumbo. You wouldn't need to strain/ separate liquids and solids. Just eat it like you would normally eat it (except smaller bites chewed well). I would forego or minimize rice.

[woo woo 872]

Some doctors don't allow Soup, ever, due to the no eating with liquids rule. (Unless strained).

I think that's a little extreme though, just my opinion.

I enjoy soup or chili at least a few times per month. I'm 8 months out.

[Jb1176 79]

My surgeons instructions were and ar no fluids 3 min before and 90 min after a meal. I find that if I try t take a sip too soon after eating I get a shar pain in my stomach

[RaginCajun 177]

@@Jb1176

The 90 min after guidance by your Doc is a bit extreme. Not sure have ever heard of that duration of post-eating wait time to drink. Many say 60 mins, many say 30 mins, but 1.5 hours is a long time.

Oddly, your Doc is in the camp that says drinking almost all the way up to feeding is no problem.

Lots of variation across the Docs out there. This and also the pre-op liquid diet of Franken-shakes (hated them). But, I did loose almost 30 lbs just with 2 weeks pre-op liquid diet.< /p>

I am personally waiting for 1 months post-op for my next weigh in. Can tell weight is dropping just by how clothes feel, so I wanna experience the BIG NUMBER loss

-RC-

[crmcguir76 1]

Hi LynneAnne (and Geaux Tigers!) ...

It is universal that every doc and all literature says to wait 30 mins before drinking after eating.

There is a great YouTube video where the guy does a visual demonstration. Basically, he fills a small funnel (about the size of sleeve) with apple sauce. You can see it go drip-drip-drip SLOWLY, because of the dense mushiness of the apple sauce. That is a visualization of how food sits in stomach while it is in the early stages of digestion (important for nutrient absorption).

He then adds about a table spoon of Water on top of the apple sauce, and you see the drip rate quicken noticeably. Then, to fully illustrate what happens when you drink substantial liquid while or immediately after eating - he adds a good bit of Water on top of the apple sauce and you immediately see it FLUSH thru the funnel. That is to illustrate that if you drink while or immediately after eating, you really cause food to flush quickly from the stomach into the intestinal tract - which is a bad thing. A very good visual reference to understand why all the chatter about waiting 30 minutes after eating, before drinking. Note: One of the posters here and I have seen elsewhere for longer term post-op folks will/can drink while eating.

On the matter of drinking before eating, you will see a lot of variation. You will see guidance to stop drinking 30 mins before eating, or stop 15 minutes before eating. I have seen some Docs say it doesn't matter how close to eating when you stop drinking (which makes sense to me, btw).

Now, because you and I are both from Louisiana, its interesting to consider the case of eating gumbo (or Soup in the general case).

My question is simple >>> if you eat something like gumbo which has solids in it AND has a high liquid concentration, then how is that any different from drinking????? In general case, same would apply for Soups (regular Soups, no strained or cream soups).

Perhaps someone can answer that questions, because I am 2 weeks post op and REALLY WANT ME SOME GUMBO

-RC-

Good question! I've had the same question.

[Casey235 83]

My surgeons instructions were and ar no fluids 3 min before and 90 min after a meal. I find that if I try t take a sip too soon after eating I get a shar pain in my stomach

I also get that sharp pain if I accidentally take a drink too soon!! I do drink up until I eat, but will probably always wait 30 minutes after before I drink! It hurts too bad!!! You should see some of the looks I get in restaurants! Lol

[Jb1176 79]

@@Jb1176

The 90 min after guidance by your Doc is a bit extreme. Not sure have ever heard of that duration of post-eating wait time to drink. Many say 60 mins, many say 30 mins, but 1.5 hours is a long time.

Oddly, your Doc is in the camp that says drinking almost all the way up to feeding is no problem.

Lots of variation across the Docs out there. This and also the pre-op liquid diet of Franken-shakes (hated them). But, I did loose almost 30 lbs just with 2 weeks pre-op liquid diet.< /p>

I am personally waiting for 1 months post-op for my next weigh in. Can tell weight is dropping just by how clothes feel, so I wanna experience the BIG NUMBER loss

-RC-

[Jb1176 79]

RaginCagin

There was a typo in my original post. Waiting is 30 minutes before meal is what my surgeon wants not 3 minutes. I agree that 90 minutes after a meal is a long time and is very hard to adhere to.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Immediately post op, my doctor had a 60/60 rule. After 6 months, he changed it to 30/60. After a year, I am "allowed" to drink right up to a meal but am advised to wait 45-60 minutes after to drink.

Real world experience at almost 2 years out. I followed his advice. I hit goal in nine months and I have maintained it for the last 15. I have found that if I drink right up to a meal, I am full when I eat and can only get in 3-4 small bites max. I am then hungry in an hour or so. I cannot do more than wet my mouth after a meal for at least 45 minutes or I will be extremely uncomfortable and will most likely hurl.

If I am at a restaurant with friends and there is absolutely nothing I want, I will order a diet soda (gasp!!) or a beer (even MORE gasp!!!) and sip that while everyone eats. Why have a meal I don't want, right?

As far as Soup. I had the same question and my doctor told me to do what I felt was right for my body. He did recommend creamier Soups at first and to strain them when I first started on solids. Now, when I have soup, I spoon in some of the broth and then eat the chunks. If I eat too much broth, I get very little solids in so I only order a cup. I rarely it.

That's just MY experience. I like listening to my doctor. I picked him for a reason.

[VivKS 2]

I asked my NUT about Soup specifically. She said to eat the solids in the soup and limit the amount of liquid taken in.

[NikkiDoc 312]

My doctor has the no liquids 10 minutes before and 30 minutes after. I will sometime push the 10 minutes before to more like 5 minutes. I will occasionally take a very very small sip of liquid during if something was a bit dry or spicy. If I sip during the meal I tend to hold it in my mouth a second and swallow slowly. I seem to be able to cool the fire with less liquid that way. I am pretty good about the 30 minutes after.

[Rogofulm 2,440]

I try to not drink anything for 30 minutes before meals, and 45 minutes afterwards. It's worked so far...

[aclinton16 32]

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I had surgery 12/23 and NYE I cooked gumbo... I really wanted some but of course could not eat solids..so I put it in a blender, sausage, shrimp, and all other yummy ingredients ...blended into a puree and have a few tablespoons :-)

[nobacktrakkin11/11/13 7]

I still wait 30