who supports right to choose

[rodriguezequal 3]

The miscarraige that I had was because the egg or sperm had defects...so my baby was naturally "aborted"...I was just saying that how is it different...just because it's natural makes it ok?

[rodriguezequal 3]

Don't be sorry...today I was at the OB/GYN to have an ultrasound...and a lady looked at me and asked me how far along I was...I told her I would have been 5 weeks and she saw my son and said aww look he knows that there's another little one on the way...I just smiled and walked away...I could have went off on her, but would good would that have done...don't be sorry for being who you are

[gadgetlady 4]

The miscarraige that I had was because the egg or sperm had defects...so my baby was naturally "aborted"...I was just saying that how is it different...just because it's natural makes it ok?

It's different because it isn't a deliberate act by ib human being to take the life of another human being.

"Just because it's natural makes it ok?" -- well, I don't know about the characterization of "ok", but the simple fact is you can't prevent a natural death (barring medical technologies that can assist in the extension of life). Just because it's natural makes a stroke ok? Just because it's natural makes cancer ok? It's "ok" in the sense that there's nothing you can do about it, but that doesn't lessen the pain. Again, all human beings die. If you believe in God, then you believe He either causes their death or allows them to die -- but nevertheless, all of them die. They shouldn't die at the sole will of another human being, though, because it is not our purvue to determine for another person when they live and when they die. We don't own other people and we don't have the legitimate right to kill them.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Well put...it still sucks though

[gadgetlady 4]

don't be sorry for being who you are

I'm sorry for not being more compassionate. Your loss is still raw to you, and it seems Patty had just noticed it as well and it was in her head. It wasn't in mine, and for that I'm sorry. I know you have legitimate questions -- it's natural -- and I gave you a quick answer without thinking about where you were emotionally. And now we're back on that tack, discussing it philosophically, and I know you're still hurting. I will keep answering if you want to keep discussing it.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Sometimes it helps to have something put bluntly instead of dressing up the elephant in the room and covering it with a sheet...sometimes we all need that little push of reality that keeps us grounded and concentrated on what we have...not what we lost.

[gadgetlady 4]

Well put...it still sucks though :thumbup:

I'm so sorry.

[rodriguezequal 3]

We may not all control what happens to us, but we can control how we react to what happens...I have my moments, but I am trying to keep it together

[gadgetlady 4]

Sometimes it helps to have something put bluntly instead of dressing up the elephant in the room and covering it with a sheet...sometimes we all need that little push of reality that keeps us grounded and concentrated on what we have...not what we lost.

Yes, but it's ok to take some time to mourn. In fact, it's a good thing.

I may get slammed for saying this, but I want to put it out there in case you hadn't considered it. This experience may be bringing back memories of your abortion, and you may be mixing up and/or compounding the emotions from both. You might want to seek some counseling to sort everything out.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Thank you Gadget. I spoke with a Grieve counselor at the hospital today...she gave me her number if I need to talk again...also I have my mom and hubby to talk to.

[gadgetlady 4]

Thank you Gadget. I spoke with a Grieve counselor at the hospital today...she gave me her number if I need to talk again...also I have my mom and hubby to talk to.

Glad to hear it. If I can help with any resources or to be an ear, let me know.

[rodriguezequal 3]

I will thank you so much All of you

[BJean 16]

I am stunned by some of the answers to rodriguez's questions and comments. I am so very glad that you are such an intelligent and loving person, rodriguez. You are generous of spirit and kind and I think a whole lot of you.

I believe that since you won't have to have a D&C, you will recover physically even quicker, yes?

If there is a problem with a malformed egg or sperm that have joined and will eventually (if it lives) become a malformed fetus, I believe that it is intelligent to make the choice to abort. I think it is unfair to that potential child to bring it into the world where pain and suffering, hospitals and medicine are its' life. If IVF is okay with God, then abortion is okay too when it is necessary.

[Carrie_C 9]

Good point about IVF.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Thank you. The doctor's told me that everything look okay and that they want me to wait to try again until July or August...Good point with the IVF...