who supports right to choose

[gadgetlady 4]

Gadget would rather that the government make that decision for all of us - and gadget and those who share her beliefs, are the ones who will tell the government exactly what the parameters will be for any decisions that the government will make for us.

Don't put words in my mouth, especially when they're not accurate.

I do not believe the government should make the decision as to when someone should be killed. I believe it is an individual decision, and if a person wants to kill themselves they and they alone should decide -- not their mother or their father, and certainly not the government.

[Carrie_C 9]

Wait, are you saying Bristol has gotten a free ride in the media, and the Palin family is more wealthy than the Spears family? :tt2:

Did I say anywhere that the Palin family is richer than the Spears family? If I said that, I didn't mean that. I meant to compare Bristol to other girls who are poor and are considered trash because they got pregnant at a young age, and Bristol is being praised for her decision just because of who her mother is.

[Carrie_C 9]

I don't speak for everyone, of course, but I don't consider either of them trash. I think they both made the right decision in a difficult circumstance. And I don't think either of them should be bashed.

Well, patty disagrees with you.

[gadgetlady 4]

Did I say anywhere that the Palin family is richer than the Spears family? If I said that, I didn't mean that. I meant to compare Bristol to other girls who are poor and are considered trash because they got pregnant at a young age, and Bristol is being praised for her decision just because of who her mother is.

Personally, I find it very sad when young girls get pregnant at a young age -- regardless of who they are. And I will --and have -- always supported their making the right decision. It is wrong to judge them.

[Carrie_C 9]

Personally, I find it very sad when young girls get pregnant at a young age -- regardless of who they are. And I will --and have -- always supported their making the right decision. It is wrong to judge them.

I agree with you. I think it is also very sad, no matter who their parents are.

[pattygreen 5]

rodriguez: Aging is a huge problem in this country. And it is only going to get worse, unless someone comes up with a sane way to take care of our aging population.

It makes sense to me that if someone is terminally ill, in pain, and there is no hope for survival, if they want to end their life they should definitely be allowed to do so legally. In fact, I believe that there should be a reasonable way for people in that condition to do it painlessly and with dignity. Again, in the most strong terms that I can muster, I believe that it should be the individual's right to make a choice like that - not the government's.

I can't believe that we treat animals better in this country than we treat human beings. And why do we? It's all in the name of God and because some people believe that any life is better than no life. I just think that is insane and I believe that it is terribly selfish of us to force people to suffer the way we make people suffer when they are terminally ill and in incredible pain.

It's not that we believe any life is better than no life. It's that we believe that God is the author and finisher of life, and anyone who takes away life when that privilage belongs to God alone, is murdering. Murder is the shedding of mans blood and ending his life before God has planned to.

There are many forms of pain medications that any sufferer can take until GOD chooses to end his life.

[pattygreen 5]

So them having a baby is a mistake...? Yes I am super serious.

It was a mistake if they didn't plan it. right? It was a mistake if they weren't married. When I say mistake, it's just a politer word than 'sin'.

Edited May 10, 2009 by pattygreen

[pattygreen 5]

Well, patty disagrees with you.

Woah! Please don't speak for me. I never said Spears should be bashed, and I never said she was trash. WOW!

[rodriguezequal 3]

There are many forms of pain medications that any sufferer can take until GOD chooses to end his life.

Do you know that some pain isn't controlled by meds...sometimes the pain is so bad that the meds don't even take the edge off...so you would rather that a person be all doped up on pain meds and barely aware of what's around them then to have the dignity to die? That's pretty messed up...

[rodriguezequal 3]

It was a mistake if they didn't plan it. right? It was a mistake if they weren't married. When I say mistake, it's just a politer word than 'sin'.

Having a baby is not a sin...if those kids felt their baby was such a mistake they wouldn't have brought them into this world...if you want to call one of your kids a mistake or a sin go for it, but you have no right to call someone elses child a mistake oh and by the way you did bash Miss Spears in an earlier post...

[gadgetlady 4]

Having a baby is not a sin

I don't think she said having a baby is a sin. I believe she was referring to sex outside of marriage as the sin. I could be wrong, but I believe that's what she was getting at.

[rodriguezequal 3]

It was a mistake if they didn't plan it. right? It was a mistake if they weren't married. When I say mistake, it's just a politer word than 'sin'.

To me this is making it sound like she thinks the baby is a mistake/sin...That's what it sounds like to me anyways

[pattygreen 5]

It was a mistake if they didn't plan it. right? It was a mistake if they weren't married. When I say mistake, it's just a politer word than 'sin'.

Let me clarify. Married and unmarried people call babies that they didn't plan a 'mistake'. I'm pretty sure that neither of those 2 'planned' to get pregnant. It's also a mistake (or sin) if they weren't married. Mistake is a 'more politically correct' or 'politer' word than sin.

[pattygreen 5]

Having a baby is not a sin...if those kids felt their baby was such a mistake they wouldn't have brought them into this world...if you want to call one of your kids a mistake or a sin go for it, but you have no right to call someone elses child a mistake oh and by the way you did bash Miss Spears in an earlier post...

I went back and reread all my posts concerning Miss Spears,and couldn't see where I 'bashed' her. Please enlighten me.

I never said that having a baby was a sin.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Let me just say while in those situations they may consider getting pregnant a mistake, but not their baby. Getting pregnant can be a mistake, but a child that is born is not...I don't think politer is a word...also it is the act of have sex that is the sin/mistake...not the child themself...the act that conceived them...maybe your wording just isn't saying it right or something...Also, to all those ladies out there that didn't abort...Happy Mother's day