Did anyone eat below 400 or 300 calories for a year post op after gastric sleeve?

[VSGAnn2014 12,992]

I've just made another new year's resolution.

In 2015, I'm not going to respond to any more threads that begin with topics like this one, whether posted seriously by idiots or trollishly by trolls.

I'm also through responding to threads that start like this: "Help me, please! I'm gaining weight. What am I doing wrong?" Since I have no effing idea what they're doing, right or wrong, and because they probably have no idea what they ate yesterday or last week or last month, I can't help anyway.

I will no longer explain why "I'm nauseous" doesn't mean "I'm nauseated" or why "affect" isn't an alternative way to spell "effect."

In 2015, I will limit my posts to the benefits of Spanx, not telling idiots about your WLS, and eating Protein first.

Happy New Year!

Edited January 6, 2015 by VSGAnn2014

[Kindle 8,667]

first of all I thank u all for commenting and second kindle u wanted a reason behind it but I have no reason , I told my surgeon I want biliopancreatic diversion a malabsorptive procedure, he told me I will perform the procedure but for the rest of ur life , u will have to live with problems. He said u can achieve the same results with sleeve by following a very low calorie diet for a year after sleeve and he said only a year then we will increase the calories. He give justification for it For eg when u have a malabsorption procedure u eat calories but most of them do not absorb so u are dieting in starvation mode , if u are eating 1000 calories only 300 will be absorb, so why not eat below 400 calories with sleeve and achieve the same results of malabsorptive procedure . But kindle u made me curious by saying a sleeve can make u only eat below 300 calories and u will feel hungry is it true?

I did not have an appetite for about 3 months, two of which were because I was on a medication that made me nauseous. As soon as I stopped the medication, I was hungry. But even with no appetite I was getting 500-800 calories. Since then I have always eaten at least every 2-3 hours because that's how often I'm hungry. And that's with getting 3-4x the calories you are talking about. But a tiny bit satisfies and I move on. You can't possibly expect the sleeve to stop your body from feeling hunger. Even with the reduction in gherlin (which, BTW is produced in other parts of the body) the fatigue, low blood sugar, weakness, cognitive disfunction and depression as a result of a 300-400 calorie diet is your body's way of saying I'M HUNGRY!!!

I guess my suggestion is to do more research to see exactly what VSG is all about. And obviously look at the many many ways you can be successful postop. And DEFINITELY get a second opinion from another Bariatric surgeon. If yours is proposing a year of 300-400 calorie restriction, he certainly doesn't seem to have much real life experience with VSG patients. And he obviously has no interest in your wellbeing. Believe me, what he is proposing is not possible. Go ahead, try it for two weeks, see how you feel and then multiply by 25. Having part of your stomach removed doesn't negate your body's nutritional requirements (not to mention the mental part of it). Like someone else on here said, the initial 6-12 months postop should be spent learning how to eat healthy and establishing new habits that will last a lifetime. It's not about torturing your mind and body or to see just how fast you can lose weight.

On the other hand, if malabsorption is what you are looking for, then find another surgeon that will do the procedure you want.

Edited January 6, 2015 by Kindle

[BitterSweet* 835]

Well said @Kindle.

[Elode 8,093]

@@VSGAnn2014 Lol!!! I almost peed my pants! You have that "affect" on me!! "Help me please"!!!

Edited January 7, 2015 by Elode

[Kindle 8,667]

Thanks for the great idea @@VSGAnn2014 . I've been looking for a New Years resolution.... For the first time in my life I don't need to lose weight and like @@proudgrammy and Mary Poppins, I'm practically perfect in every other way.

For me it's the posts from people that are too lazy to use the search function and keep asking the same questions that have been answered a hundred times that drive me batshitcrazy. And considering I'm on here almost every day, I'm thinking BP has become my cross addiction. So I'm gonna try really hard to ignore and not reply to these annoying posts. And it looks like I may need another cervical vertebral fusion, so maybe I'll go bug the folks on the spine-health.com forums to help wean me off these boards. ????

But in the case of this thread, it's obvious the author's doctor is a moron, but at least it's an original post!

[chasingpolaris321 214]

I've just made another new year's resolution.

In 2015, I'm not going to respond to any more threads that begin with topics like this one, whether posted seriously by idiots or trollishly by trolls.

I'm also through responding to threads that start like this: "Help me, please! I'm gaining weight. What am I doing wrong?" Since I have no effing idea what they're doing, right or wrong, and because they probably have no idea what they ate yesterday or last week or last month, I can't help anyway.

I will no longer explain why "I'm nauseous" doesn't mean "I'm nauseated" or why "affect" isn't an alternative way to spell "effect."

In 2015, I will limit my posts to the benefits of Spanx, not telling idiots about your WLS, and eating Protein first.

Happy New Year!

LOL this is the best. A lot of the time I don't even respond to the posts you mentioned because there's a fine line between someone asking for help, and being unwilling to help themselves by clicking on any number of threads with the exact information. Did you gain three pounds over night? No, not unless you sleep walked to a donut store and non stop consumed donuts for the rest of your evening.

300 calories a day for a year is absurd. If you want to loose weight in the most drastic way possible then cut your legs off or something. There's 40 or 50 pounds right there. But in all seriousness, do this surgery because you respect your body and want to make it the best it can be. That means eating enough food so that you gain nutrients and nourishment for it to function properly. Weight is important, but at the end of the day we need to love and care for ourselves the best we possibly can, and forced starvation is not how we do that.

[laurenella82 625]

I'm no shrink but suggesting such an extreme procedure to your doctor would make me think an eating disorder of some sort is evolving. But at the same time, a doctor that would suggest a diet so low in calories for a whole year would make me call his ethics into question....I certainly hope you do a lot more research (even research another doc) before you make your final decision.

Be blessed

Edited January 7, 2015 by laurenella82

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I did not have an appetite for about 3 months, two of which were because I was on a medication that made me nauseous. As soon as I stopped the medication, I was hungry. But even with no appetite I was getting 500-800 calories. Since then I have always eaten at least every 2-3 hours because that's how often I'm hungry. And that's with getting 3-4x the calories you are talking about. But a tiny bit satisfies and I move on. You can't possibly expect the sleeve to stop your body from feeling hunger. Even with the reduction in gherlin (which, BTW is produced in other parts of the body) the fatigue, low blood sugar, weakness, cognitive disfunction and depression as a result of a 300-400 calorie diet is your body's way of saying I'M HUNGRY!!!

I guess my suggestion is to do more research to see exactly what VSG is all about. And obviously look at the many many ways you can be successful postop. And DEFINITELY get a second opinion from another Bariatric surgeon. If yours is proposing a year of 300-400 calorie restriction, he certainly doesn't seem to have much real life experience with VSG patients. And he obviously has no interest in your wellbeing. Believe me, what he is proposing is not possible. Go ahead, try it for two weeks, see how you feel and then multiply by 25. Having part of your stomach removed doesn't negate your body's nutritional requirements (not to mention the mental part of it). Like someone else on here said, the initial 6-12 months postop should be spent learning how to eat healthy and establishing new habits that will last a lifetime. It's not about torturing your mind and body or to see just how fast you can lose weight.

On the other hand, if malabsorption is what you are looking for, then find another surgeon that will do the procedure you want.

thank u kindle I appreciate it and I will definitely talk to my doc about it. Anyone and kindle what are the minimum calories which u can take with sleeve(I mean the most minimum) ? and also what are the maximum calories u can take? Someone mention earlier are u self pay yes I'm self pay. And please don't make New Years resolutions like it , we all are friends and one family p.

[Kindle 8,667]

thank u kindle I appreciate it and I will definitely talk to my doc about it. Anyone and kindle what are the minimum calories which u can take with sleeve(I mean the most minimum) ? and also what are the maximum calories u can take? Someone mention earlier are u self pay yes I'm self pay. And please don't make New Years resolutions like it , we all are friends and one family p.

My surgeon never gave me calorie limits or goals. I also didn't count carbs or fat. Just made sure I got at least 60g Protein, 64oz Fluid and all of my Vitamins. I had no idea what my calories were on a daily basis. I simply ate when I was hungry, ate till satisfied, not full. Protein first, then veggies. I spot checked my calorie intake a couple times along the way, but never let it control what or how I ate. I was more concerned with being healthy and happy. Once I reached my surgeon's weight goal (at 6 months) I added in more fruit and whole grains. And I still lost another 22 pounds! It's a very simple, normal "diet" and very easy to stick to. The way I feel as well as my bloodwork confirms I am healthy as a horse.

However, this was MY experience and likely will not be the same as yours. There are dozens of ways to succeed with the sleeve, but I have never heard of any that include the scenario your surgeon is proposing.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Kindle

[MisforMimi 760]

Why get a surgery at all? Why eat 300-400 calories? Why not just Water fast? Humans can, well fat humans can live a long time without food at all.....

VSGAnn2014, I just mentioned on a post that I love those posts where people are like, I'm dying. Members give an outpouring of support and then chirp chirp!!

I'm a recovering rescuer, so I just have to laugh and keep it moving....Lol I still won't make a New Year's resolution but I'm with you!

[Simand 3]

I think that's unreal and what would you achieve? Coz u cannot go on for life can u ?

[BLERDgirl 6,417]

I asked if you were self pay. I suspected as much because no psychologist would sign off you on getting surgery. You aren't thinking clearly. Calories aren't the enemy. Unhealthy foods are. Trying to get your body surgically altered so you're in a constant state of malsbsorption is slow suicide. Trying to find out the minimum calories you can survive on is disordered thinking. We are not all friends and family. My friends on this board are those who are actively trying to live a healthier lifestyle. I would strongly encourage you to speak to someone who specializes in eating disorders BEFORE you have surgery of any sort.

Edited January 7, 2015 by BLERDgirl

[Kindle 8,667]

@@BLERDgirl Well said....and nothing more to say. I'm outa here.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Kindle

[BitterSweet* 835]

@@BLERDgirl, exactly.

@@MisforMimi, EXACTLY. I was too through with that and I was one of the people genuinely concerned and praying only to find out dude was surfing this forum on the low low while everyone is thinking the worst. Seriously..... I never liked getting played by boys when I was younger and I certainly don't like it from people who just want to garner sympathy. I'll save my prayers for people who really need it and my advice for people who understand that earth is indeed round.

@@Kindle, bless your heart for even trying to help the OP.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

I will no longer explain why "I'm nauseous" doesn't mean "I'm nauseated"

Oh, girl. Usually, they are right.