Alexandra 55 Posted September 4, 2007 My theory is, "A FILL IS A FILL" what difference is the "SIZE" of a band going to make? I mean tightness is tightness, I have no fill at all, and feel like I need to burp constantly. I dont know what to do. I dont want to gain all my wight back either. But I sware, i feel like if I can ear normal again, I will do a better job in choosing my foods!! What do you guys think I should do?? Thanks, Tina Hi Tina, A fill is a fill, but the size of the band that's being adjusted DOES have a lot to do with it. If it's too small to begin with, adding Fluid to make it tighter will just make problems worse. Back in 2002 doctors had only one choice of band size, but people are not all the same size and so some inevitably got bands that just didn't fit right from the start. I think I was one of those people, too; I could only tolerate a fill of less than 1.5ccs at any time and toward the end couldn't tolerate any fill at all. Now I have the new AP band (my old one was removed due to slippage) and I am hopeful that this one will be for life. There's a lot more room to maneuver and adjust to fit my particular anatomy. If you have no fill and are STILL too tight, then doesn't it stand to reason that a larger band might work better for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyzbrat 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I guess it kinda makes sense. When I first started getting fills, it was great, I just dont know what happened. A person can only tolerate a certain amount of fill. And this is where my theory comes in "a fill is a fill". Once you get to the point that you can tollerate, does it matter what size the band is? I pretty much eat everything I want, and have gained a lot back. Part of me wants to be like Sharon Osbourne, and have it taken out once and for all get to the "root" of why I eat in the first place. I'd like to talk to Sharon, and see how she is doing. I really dont know what to do, guess I am just afraid of the same ole roller coaster ride. Also, I can't even sleep at night comfortably. My band wont allow it. It is painful. I am a stomach sleeper, and there are times when I raise up it feels like I am ripping the band out of place. OUCH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken chest 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I think you have the right attitude for all the good reasons. I am surprised he didn't try to talk you into the gastric sleeve which to me is a real bypass, only they don't change routes, they just cut three forths of your stomach out and staple it together. So what if it leaks and then you have sepsis? That's deadly! I too am having my band out too. Yes it is scary. But like you, I wonder what is going on in my innards that I can't see. Like erosion, leasions, etc. My husband is sick of all my heaving and vomiting, and I as well. I only have 1.4 in my band but have restriction still. The gastric sleeve is still experimenal, but are'nt they all at some point? I'm just not willing to jump on this "band wagon" so quickly. I wish you well and all my lapbander friends out there. gayle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uniqueone 0 Posted September 4, 2007 alexandra, is your band an Inamed and how many cc's or whatever will it hold??????? Thanks. Sallie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabfatgrl 10 Posted September 4, 2007 chicken chest" data-cite="chicken chest" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32518" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic">I think you have the right attitude for all the good reasons. I am surprised he didn't try to talk you into the gastric sleeve which to me is a real bypass, only they don't change routes, they just cut three forths of your stomach out and staple it together. So what if it leaks and then you have sepsis? That's deadly!I too am having my band out too. Yes it is scary. But like you, I wonder what is going on in my innards that I can't see. Like erosion, leasions, etc. My husband is sick of all my heaving and vomiting, and I as well. I only have 1.4 in my band but have restriction still. The gastric sleeve is still experimenal, but are'nt they all at some point? I'm just not willing to jump on this "band wagon" so quickly. I wish you well and all my lapbander friends out there. gayle The Sleeve is not a bypass because no intestines are bypassed. The risk of leaks are about 1%. Bands can be deadly, too. VSG has the same operative risk profile as the Band which is why it was first conceived as an operation for super MO patients who were too large to undergo other WLS safely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faithmd 14 Posted September 4, 2007 alexandra, is your band an Inamed and how many cc's or whatever will it hold??????? Thanks. Sallie Thought I'd chime in on the AP band. Yes, it is an Inamed, it is the latest band released from them. The AP small holds 10cc/mL the AP large holds 14cc/mL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandra 55 Posted September 4, 2007 Thanks, Fab. I'm not sure if I got the small or the large AP band, but either way it's a lot bigger than my original 9.75cm Inamed band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabfatgrl 10 Posted September 5, 2007 Thanks, Fab. I'm not sure if I got the small or the large AP band, but either way it's a lot bigger than my original 9.75cm Inamed band. I have a 9.75 cm Band. I tell myself that I have a small band because inside I'm a small, delicate person. :eek: I think they had both the 9.75 and 10 cm bands during the FDA trial. I seem to remember Dr. Rumbaut telling me that he put the smaller band in me... but it's been awhile, so I could be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uniqueone 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks, Guys!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MELANIE 0 Posted September 13, 2007 hey there hun i feel you 1000% every thing i eat gets stuck. un less its something thats fatting (mushy softs). i thought things would be diffrent with the band guess i was wrong. and i dont think its healthy to be vomiting or sliming all the time. god only knows what its doing to our insides. i really want my band out just scared to do it all i know is this was wrong for me . and if you want it out you go girl .total support over here. and good luck to all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihv2bz 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Good Luck on your weight loss journey no matter what you chose. I too after 3 1/2 years PB when I eat food I can not tolerate and there are several, ie Pasta, BEEF, SANDWICHES, bread, ANYTHING DRY but most of these are the things that made me fat to begin with(my weaknesses with portion control) so I am happy that I cannot tolerate them and after awhile I no longer desired them. For the first time in my life(now 55) food is NO LONGER an issue for me. I never wake up and think about what I will cook for dinner because I do not crave food. I eat only because I want to stay healthy. Eating slow is also very, very important. There are times my husband says to me slow down because he knows the next minute I will be in the bathroom but I LOVE my band because it has forced me to give up the foods that put the weight on, it has forced me to eat slow. and it has forced me to always ask for a take out container when dining out because I never finish that meal in a resturant. When I am with friends and I find that I am almost able to eat 3/4s as much as they do I know it is time for a fill. I keep my band at a low restriction also because I have found that if it is too tight it causes too many problems so I do diet but it soooooo much easier now to eat less and stay focused. Sorry if I am rambling but just wanted to share my experiences........GOOD LUCK TO YOU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kacee 3 Posted September 15, 2007 My band and I are learning to co-exist. If I get a little out of hand, my band taps me on the shoulder (well, not exactly THERE!) and says, "Ahem...shall we revisit that last activity and talk about it?" and I say, "Oops, sorry buddy....I got ahead of myself and wasn't thinking" We mutually discuss what I did wrong to cause whatever consequence I experienced, I make a mental log of it and promise to adjust my actions accordingly. shake hands...no hard feeling and go on about my business. My band is my little watchdog and I cannot CONCEIVE of life without it. No one is going to convince me that you can take the band out of a person and they have "learned their lesson." This is a physical and mental disease we have, like alcoholism. It does not "go away in time". You were born with it and you will die with it and you will cope with it forever (band or no band). I know myself well enough not to pull the wool over my own eyes and think for one minute that after 55 years of failure I could remove this watchdog and NOT go back to exactly the way I was before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
momlambert 77 Posted September 15, 2007 Great description, Kacee. Mine does a little more than "tap" my shoulder--we're talking of knife-stabbing pain there! Thanks for the smile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Becca 0 Posted September 16, 2007 I have had a sliming issue too. I was told to drink an entire glass or tea or Water before eating a meal to open up everything. It has been working for me. I haven't slimed at all since doing that. Just something to maybe try. I hope everything goes well for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scout 4 Posted October 21, 2007 This reply will probably not be very popular, even on this thread. I was banded about 1.5 years ago. I lost about 15 pounds before the surgery and another 30+ shortly thereafter...much due to limited eating (protein shakes and soft foods) as well as a great deal of exercise. During this time, I was regularly PB'ing as well as just plain vomiting. Numerous attempts were made to find the ostensible "sweet spot" but either there was no restriction or I was vomiting. When I first mentioned to my surgeon some months ago that perhaps the band was not for me, he said that he had never had to remove one...thus cowed, I agreed to give it another shot. After yet another adjustment and several more months of vomiting due to as little as a sip of liquid or a small, well-chewed bite of egg, I flat out told him I wanted it removed. I never knew when the vomiting would happen....sometimes in my waste basket at work, other times I managed to make it to the nearest sink or toilet,several times in a napkin at a restaurant...definitely no way to live. By the way, I should tell you that during all this intermittent vomiting, I also managed to re-gain all the weight I had lost except for my pre-band loss, as when I wasn't vomiting, I had no restriction. About a month ago, I quit all the low/no fat junk as well as processed foods and went to "real foods", ie, organic raw milk (yes, real, creamy full-fledged milk), meat, butter, eggs, cheese, vegetables. I am now easily sated and have lost 11 pounds. In addition, I feel terrific...my blood pressure is down considerably (108/70) and my energy level has exponentially increased. The only problem that remains is the intermittent vomiting due to the band, which will, thankfully be removed in early November. My regular physician said that the surgery to remove it is less risky than having this piece of plastic in my gut which could, at any time erode. What was I thinking? We fat folk are so desperate to try anything that we will, in fact, try anything. For me, I'll be grateful to be done with it and simply go on eating real food which, unlike the no/low fat nutrition-void, chemical filled junk we pump into our systems, actually satisfies and assists in weight loss. Check out your local organic farms...buy local, know your food source...try sites like the Weston A. Price Foundation and learn to love real food again. You may want to read a book called "An Unburdened Life" which can be ordered from this site. I wish you all the best. __________________ Scout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites