I will what I want 271 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Okay here is my rant: I somehow lost my long rant . Will try again tomorrow. Edited August 12, 2014 by I will what I want 6 jessiquoi, LipstickLady, Pepper123 and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJ'S/beginning 5,358 Posted August 12, 2014 Too much! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamieLogical 8,710 Posted August 12, 2014 Hahaha! Aw... I was so ready to read your rant. Hope you will get it posted today! 1 docbree reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ao2014 0 Posted August 12, 2014 I'm 6 days out and I have had hard back stabbing pain in my middle section of my back. My right side. Is this a muscle spasm? It comes and goes. Eating and drinking ok. Urination ok. Just can't figure out what it is . Any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moonlitestarbrite 902 Posted August 12, 2014 I'm 6 days out and I have had hard back stabbing pain in my middle section of my back. My right side. Is this a muscle spasm? It comes and goes. Eating and drinking ok. Urination ok. Just can't figure out what it is . Any thoughts? you probably want to post this in the correct forum.. like post op questions. you posted this as a reply to a post in the rants and raves section. but i would advise you to call your doctors office today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper123 320 Posted August 12, 2014 Lmaoooo, good one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisacaron 5,075 Posted August 12, 2014 Now that was the best research I have ever read!!! It should all be as easy as that, nothing to report 2 NewSetOfCurves and moonlitestarbrite reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I will what I want 271 Posted August 12, 2014 You all crack me up! Here is the rant I tried to post last night: Please people, read the research papers that abound on this crazy thing called the internet about WLS. You know the vitriolic, name calling arguments that ya'll have been having over carbs, band vs vsg, vsg vs RnY? There are recent and good scientific studies about the pluses and minuses. (Good, meaning not funded by a medical company and peer reviewed, etc) And those questions and statements that vsg is mostly restrictive (it's not, actually)? A couple of new studies have shown it's mostly metabolic... I could go on and on with examples but you get the idea. Why do I care, you ask? Here's why: When one understands fully how and why each procedure works, you can make proper choices. If you understand that vsg is mostly metabolic and you basically get a reset then you can make choices to keep that reset. If you read that new studies show the size of sleeve (ie 34 to 40 ish) makes no difference in weight loss but does in reflux...you can have a serious conversation with your doc. How much supplementation do you .really. need if you have had RnY? It's in a study... It's your body and health. Don't count on a surgeon you see occasionally (or nut. Or strangers on the internet) to know it all. Know it all for yourself. There is a lot of research happening with WLS these days because the results are phenomenal. Drug companies and institutions are performing basic research because they are looking for new drugs to produce. That's good news for us! One last note: some of the studies are dense and even with a science background I can't follow the details. However, I can follow the basic argument and conclusions. I can decide if it's a well designed study. So don't let the 20 character long molecule names stop you! Get reading people! Rant over. And now you can proceed to tell me why I'm wrong (isn't that what comes next with strangers on the internet?) 15 swimbikerun, terry1118, Luvin_Life125 and 12 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LipstickLady 25,682 Posted August 12, 2014 I don't agree with your thoughts that the VSG is metabolic, but I do agree with your thought process that people should learn about each procedure so they can make an educated decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustWatchMe 7,117 Posted August 12, 2014 A rant worth waiting for.... 1 Debbie3sons reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I will what I want 271 Posted August 12, 2014 I don't agree with your thoughts that the VSG is metabolic, but I do agree with your thought process that people should learn about each procedure so they can make an educated decision. Lots of studies from 2012 and 2014 show it is mostly metabolic. The way to get the metabolic advantage is to remove most of the stomach...so you can't get one without the other.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandarella 223 Posted August 12, 2014 The metabolic factor is removal of the fundus which is the primary producer go gherlin which stimulates hunger and appetite. Also since much less food is eaten, there is less food to metabolize...I guess all "diets" are metabolic, lol. 2 LipstickLady and NewSetOfCurves reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I will what I want 271 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) The metabolic factor is removal of the fundus which is the primary producer go gherlin which stimulates hunger and appetite. Also since much less food is eaten, there is less food to metabolize...I guess all "diets" are metabolic, lol. It is gherlin as well as a bunch of other hormones that affect metabolism. For example, an increase in circulating bile acids actually turns on a gene that tells the body to burn fat. It's amazing. Again, just a little piece of info from a study I read.... Edited August 12, 2014 by I will what I want 4 VSGAnn2014, RJ'S/beginning, NewSetOfCurves and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites