I am very offended by the B**love post

[AshevilleEddie 14]

Wow, I haven't read this thread in a day or two. Things have gotten vicious! :fencing: I think everyone needs to chill...

[Carlene 12]

I wasn't aware of a time limit. I think 6 months should suffice.

ECONOMIC SUCCESS CLEARINGHOUSE

(formerly Welfare Information Network)

Time Limits

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunities Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) forbids use of federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) funds to provide assistance to a family for more than 60 months (5 years) in total. (States however, may use their own funds to provide assistance to families after they have reached the 60 month threshold.) A state may exempt up to 20% of the average monthly TANF caseload from these time limits for hardship reasons, or if the family includes a domestic violence victim.

PRWORA also requires that welfare recipients engage in "work" (as defined by the state) within 24 months of receiving benefits, and some states have their own more stringent work requirement deadlines. Information on time limits related to work requirements is included in our

TANF Work Requirements page.

Welfare clients who are reaching time limits typically fall into three categories:

• Hard-to-serve recipients with multiple barriers to self-sufficiency who are long-time recipients or who cycle on and off assistance.

  
  

• Employed recipients in states with earnings disregard policies or other 'make work pay' policies who remain eligible for cash assistance because their earnings are not adequate to achieve self-sufficiency.

  
  

• Long-time recipients with little evidence of employment barriers, but no success in securing employment.

  
  

WIC stands for "Women's, Infants, and Children's" program and is open only to low-income pregnant and nursing women, or pre-school children. This assistance is in the form of "coupons" issued monthly that allow the participant to purchase brand approved (meaning the cheapest) cheese, milk, juice, and a few other items.

Just because a family receives some sort of federal assistance (food stamps or WIC, for example) does NOT mean they do not work. More often than not, it means they work, but are low-income.

I was raised by a single mother who struggled to raise her children with little to no help from our father. She was a teacher. In addition, she worked every school vacation and long holidays, like Christmas break, at various jobs. Today, my mother would probably qualify for federal assistance. I would hate to think that society would consider my mother, or anyone who tried as hard as she did, a lazy welfare recipient.

[green 6]

After all these months of reading these religious-themed posts and listening to people declare that they have a right to tell me and everyone else how we must live, I just got a bit worn out from it.

Me too!

You want to be really worn out? Go on over to the "Christian Bandsters" thread.

Don't post there though, because it's a thread "just for them", and they don't want anyone like you or me posting there.

Not even to proclaim that their posts are really disturbing, especially the one about converting 300 children to "receive the Lord". It makes my blood boil to think of innocent children who don't even understand what they're getting into, being brainwashed.

Basically what they do is they put on some kind of carnival where they have food and face painting, and invite low-income families to attend, and then brainwash them into becoming "saved" by giving them free stuff. Kind of like missionaries who go to poor areas and brainwash (aka bribe) the people there. They prey on people's vulnerabilities and it makes me so angry.

I don't post there because I find most of those people to be very unwelcoming of differing points of view (such as my view that what they are doing is totally wrong), and plus they proclaimed they didn't want anyone who doesn't agree with them posting there.

But I do read it and it makes me very frustrated.

...especially the inattention to the rules of spelling and grammar........:rolleyes

[Lap_dancer 8]

You can't be serious. I agree that children should not be forced to pray in school, however, prayer is far less damaging to a child than sexual exploitation or molestation. I say this as a person who was both required to pray as a youngster, and who was fondled by a perverted uncle. I assume you were the victim of mandatory prayer, but unless you have experienced both, I find your comparison a little flippant, if you don't mind my saying so.

You know Carlene, I use to be a foster parent. My husband and I went to school for 10 weeks of training. One thing they kept repeating to the class was "they don't put cute white unharmed babies in foster care" trying to disuade those who might be fostering to fill some need for children. After years of fostering children that were in various stages of abuse, anyone who would be so ignorant, so blind, so senseless to the pain inflicted upon a child who has been molested by everything from a human to objects found on your grocery shelf, anyone who would equate that kind of damage EQUAL TO prayer in school needs serious therapy. They have major issues and our forum doesn't offer that type of professional assistance.

[Lap_dancer 8]

There is an option I will share with you all. It's how to block a user that you find offensive to the point of nausea, on your list as an IGNORE.

Go to the user's name as it appears on all of their posts and click on it.

The drop box will open and you can select VIEW PUBLIC PROFILE

Once in there on the far right is IGNORE. Click on IGNORE and you no longer have to clench your jaws just to enjoy this website.

[Carlene 12]

You know Carlene, I use to be a foster parent. My husband and I went to school for 10 weeks of training. One thing they kept repeating to the class was "they don't put cute white unharmed babies in foster care" trying to disuade those who might be fostering to fill some need for children. After years of fostering children that were in various stages of abuse, anyone who would be so ignorant, so blind, so senseless to the pain inflicted upon a child who has been molested by everything from a human to objects found on your grocery shelf, anyone who would equate that kind of damage EQUAL TO prayer in school needs serious therapy. They have major issues and our forum doesn't offer that type of professional assistance.

Lap Dancer....you must not have been listening to some of the other posters (all men, by the way). We are "silly" and need to "chill". Oh.....and "vicious", too. That one REALLY cracks me up.

[Lap_dancer 8]

Lap Dancer....you must not have been listening to some of the other posters (all men, by the way). We are "silly" and need to "chill". Oh.....and "vicious", too. That one REALLY cracks me up.

Yeah, I'll CHILL when my cold dead body is taking a deep six dirt nap.

Join me in the BLOCK USER. Now I can scan the pages without having to suppress a PB.

[TommyO 5]

Carlene, what are you inferring when you say "(All Men, by the way)" before I become offended by your inference that men somehow are not as repulsed as women by child molestation I ask for clarification.

Sincerely

TommyO

[anonemouse 1]

Carlene, what are you inferring when you say "(All Men, by the way)" before I become offended by your inference that men somehow are not as repulsed as women by child molestation I ask for clarification.

Sincerely

TommyO

Yeah, what I saw (admittedly, I may have missed one), it was only one poster.

[Carlene 12]

I was simply noting, Tommy, that 100% of the posters who have expressed those sentiments ("silly", "need to chill" etc) were men. That is NOT the same as saying 100% of the men on this board share those opinions.

Most men are repulsed by child molesters, I believe - including the men on this forum. The issue is not whether men abhor child molestation or not. The issue is whether the post comparing the offensiveness of forced prayer in school to that of pedophilia was appropriate hyperbole, or if it minimized the horrible, lifelong trauma and pain that victims of child sexual abuse almost invariably suffer.

So....now that you've weighed in, Tommy, which team are YOU on?

[AshevilleEddie 14]

Lap Dancer....you must not have been listening to some of the other posters (all men, by the way). We are "silly" and need to "chill". Oh.....and "vicious", too. That one REALLY cracks me up.

Whoa, Carlene! I was the one that made the "vicious" comment, and I was referring to some posters that are making this a little too personal (not you, BTW). It's okay to disagree - it's ok to get riled up. Even though this is the R&R section and anything goes, I just don't care for personal attacks. And since this is the R&R section, it's also ok for me to point that out.

BTW, none of my posts have trivialized abuse of any sort. And they never will either. One thing that I omitted from my "life story" post in another thread was the fact that I was a victim of domestic abuse (emotional and physical) at the hands of my ex-wife (yes, it happens to men too). She also physically abused our children. So no one will EVER hear me making light of abuse of any sort.

[TommyO 5]

I would, hopefully, never use an analogy that equates forced prayer in school with any form of child abuse. I have been reading this thread and I have avoided putting my 2cents forward because although I do believe strongly with freedom of speech I find the whole Boy/Man love thing to be offensive. I have had discusions with a lesbian acqaintance about this topic so I did not go to the site via the link provided because of how offensive I find the topic.

I understand that Marjon is trying to make a point and I understand his position but I think there may have been a better analogy. A good example may have been a link to a site that advocates that we enforce a prayer to the tree God in school. I would find something like that to be equally offensive as forced Christian prayer in school.

As much as I don't think that the state should be legislating what goes on in the bedroom, I also feel strongly that the sex act is something that takes place between two consenting adults. So if one of the participants does not consent or is unable to consent due to impaired mentall capacity or if they are not an adult then it's important that we have laws that protect them. I also believe that these laws should be harsh.

TommyO

[Carlene 12]

Whoa, Carlene! I was the one that made the "vicious" comment, and I was referring to some posters that are making this a little too personal (not you, BTW). It's okay to disagree - it's ok to get riled up. Even though this is the R&R section and anything goes, I just don't care for personal attacks. And since this is the R&R section, it's also ok for me to point that out.

My apologies, Ms. Dad. Sometimes the order that the posts fall in, especially when there is no reference to a specific post, can create confusion. (Admitedly, I am easily confused some days.)

And you, of course, are entitled to point it out when you feel someone has overstepped the line, whether it's me or someone else.

[AshevilleEddie 14]

My apologies, Ms. Dad. Sometimes the order that the posts fall in, especially when there is no reference to a specific post, can create confusion. (Admitedly, I am easily confused some days.)

And you, of course, are entitled to point it out when you feel someone has overstepped the line, whether it's me or someone else.

Apology accepted. Hugs all around? :boy_hug:

[TommyO 5]

Just curious but what do you mean when you ask "which team are YOU on"

The question seems to not fit with the rest of your post as there is no mention of teams although if you were hoping to insult me you succeeded