Dr. Jalil Illan with Baja Bariatrics and Omar Acosta - A Warning

[whitneyfarmer.new 7]

Laws are put in place to give people moral standards and to make good decisions.

M's feelings are hurt almost a year later. Omar is still single (I'll assume) and she's jealous. Spreading rumors, degrading people publicly, trying to get people fired simply because your friend may or may not have been dumped, banning people on a website that bariatric people think they can trust just because the banned person doesn't agree with the admin.... and the list goes on are all immoral, hateful and vindictive acts.

For instance, if I were to slander this woman and go around telling people (the way she did me) that she goes to foreign countries so she can get loose and hookup with random Mexican men to say her employer, friends, family, etc.... that would probably be considered immoral. This is exactly what is happening to this company only because this woman is obviously obsessed.

I'm done now. This is childish. When I was told I was being talked about, I kept my comments to myself. I'm not a drama oriented person and this is a waste of life.

Every single one of you are immoral in some way. We are all human. We all make mistakes. You and I sin every single day. None of you have any room to judge and that actually includes myself judging you. AND.... In all actually, I wouldn't even be involved in this conversation if I weren't dragged into it by M and a few other ladies.

I have a real life with real friends. Not a virtual one with virtual friends and fake profiles where I bash people on the daily to turn a profit. I don't face dream men in Mexico that I want to lay claim to. Get a grip.

Edited July 14, 2014 by whitneyfarmer.new

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Laws are put in place to give people moral standards and to make good decisions. M's feelings are hurt almost a year later. Omar is still single (I'll assume) and she's jealous. Spreading rumors, degrading people publicly, trying to get people fired simply because your friend may or may not have been dumped, banning people on a website that bariatric people think they can trust just because the banned person doesn't agree with the admin.... and the list goes on are all immoral, hateful and vindictive acts.

For instance, if I were to slander this woman and go around telling people (the way she did me) that she goes to foreign countries so she can get loose and hookup with random Mexican men to say her employer, friends, family, etc.... that would probably be considered immoral. This is exactly what is happening to this company only because this woman is obviously obsessed.

I'm done now. This is childish. When I was told I was being talked about, I kept my comments to myself. I'm not a drama oriented person and this is a waste of life.

I have a real life with real friends. Not a virtual one with virtual friends and fake profiles where I bash people on the daily to turn a profit.

And we wonder why victims are afraid to come forward.

[Ms.AntiBand 2,984]

Why are responses and posts being deleted and members banned? Am I missing something?

[whitneyfarmer.new 7]

And we wonder why victims are afraid to come forward.

Yes. Caddy women don't like being called out on their bs. The only thing M is a victim of is falling in love with a Mexican man in August 2013 and again in January 2014. poor thing.

[Ivana_bethin 10]

Susan I don't think you should be calling people out about things that they haven't told you directly or gave you permission to say. I think that is VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of you to do. This shouldn't turn into a witch hunt. I'm assuming she didn't.

I completely agree with Sherry. I do not know why Bariatric Pal would allow you to post slanderous comments. Defamation of character is a serious offense and this forum should be removing this post of your Susan.

[whitneyfarmer.new 7]

Why are responses and posts being deleted and members banned? Am I missing something?

Good question.... Susan? Lipstick lady?

[LipstickLady 25,682]

And we wonder why victims are afraid to come forward.

Yes. Caddy women don't like being called out on their bs. The only thing M is a victim of is falling in love with a Mexican man in August 2013 and again in January 2014. poor thing.

Funny. People were asking for first hand knowledge and now that it's being offered, she's being trashed. Shame on you.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Why are responses and posts being deleted and members banned? Am I missing something?

Good question.... Susan? Lipstick lady?

I'm not a moderator nor can I ban people. You are barking up the wrong tree here. That said, I'd rather you go after me than someone else. I can take it.

[Irish 10]

Actually, the different scenarios you gave all have different answers. Teacher/student....the teacher has POWER over the student to give a bad grade.

Coach/player.....same as above

Therapist/patient.....therapy for what? Physical therapy? Its fine if they want to. Mental where the therapist can give them a bad recommendation, then no. Again, they have power over that person.

Omar has no power over anyone. The only thing he could do is??? What? Now if he requires sex before surgery, that is a problem.

[woo woo 872]

Susan I don't think you should be calling people out about things that they haven't told you directly or gave you permission to say. I think that is VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of you to do. This shouldn't turn into a witch hunt. I'm assuming she didn't.

I completely agree with Sherry. I do not know why Bariatric Pal would allow you to post slanderous comments. Defamation of character is a serious offense and this forum should be removing this post of your Susan.

"Slander" (which does not apply here, incidentally) and "defamation of character" are legal terms/torts that must be proven in a court of law, not a type of comment.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

She's being trashed because she made up lies , rumors and proceeded to talk sht about me. Her word is complete bogus as far as I am concerned and only because I have been on her list of targets. She knows nothing about me.

She is full of bs and I believe nothing she says. Her statements, in those screen shots from this website, even contradict themself!

So because you don't believe her, it's not true? Ok.

Edited July 14, 2014 by LipstickLady

[coexist23 82]

For the record, and maybe this post will be the next to be "deleted", I started the Team Illan support group on FB. I started this Facebook group so those of us who used Dr. Illan as a surgeon could talk and support a little easier than on this website. I have NEVER received a penny or any kind of services for started or keeping up that group. We are there to simply support. We are NOT a cult, or anything else of that kind!!!!

[*susan* 1,709]

Well, first off, any posts that were deleted and members that were banned would have been done by one person only, Alex. He is the founder of the website, and he makes those decisions. So, that is a question neither myself nor Lipsticklady can answer.

Next, Whitney, for someone who has posted many, many times about having a real life with real friends, you have spent a great deal of time in this thread trying to discredit myself and the six woman who have been brave enough to come forward with their experiences. I wonder why? What exactly is your relationship and how do you benefit from protecting Omar? And, more importantly, why have you insisted on trying to make this thread about you, and to make yourself out to be the victim here? This is NOT about WHITNEY. This is about a coordinator who has been reported as having made unwelcome advances on patients, and entering into inappropriate relationships with them. How about we address that instead? This is about putting the word out there so other woman who are traveling to Mexico are aware of what could potentially happen to them so they can make an informed choice. Lets talk about the real issues here, if you wish to discuss your offense at Alex for removing your posts or banning you (which you obviously don't understand what being banned means), then private message him, private message me or open your own thread. In fact, I invite you to do that, so this thread may get back to the real issues at hand, which, despite some of you and your cohorts best efforts to declare otherwise, is very real and very serious. One that people have a right to know about.

[*susan* 1,709]

I completely agree with Sherry. I do not know why Bariatric Pal would allow you to post slanderous comments. Defamation of character is a serious offense and this forum should be removing this post of your Susan.

What is funny about this, is Sherry admitted to me that she is actually close friends with one of the ladies and feels very badly about what happened to her.

[heather1979 18]

I completely agree with you here. I don't like the idea of doctors or their staff dating patients because that's a line that shouldn't be crossed, in my opinion. That said, Susan used the word rape and spoke of sexual harassment and things of that nature and I really think that she has no business posting things like that. If the victim of such behavior wants to post it, that's their business to do so.

It's difficult to see something like this written about your surgeon and their coordinator when a) you've had an excellent experience with them, and Susan has trashed many other doctors on this site for various reasons. It just seems so fake and unprofessional on her part. I think that's where the vitriol from some of Dr. Illan's patients comes from. Certainly not from a stance of victim blaming.

I cringe every time the word rape is used here. I don't think rape in it's true sense occurred. That said, if one uses his/her position of power or authority to seduce a patient/client/student he/she is acting unethically and that's a HUGE abuse of position and influence. That's scary.