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I dont know...i guess its through trial and error they think this is better then opti fast or any other method...but i dont know...it WILL be hard but yeah, i will strictly follow it, because its for my own good. I even asked if Optifast was better....cuz if it was i wouldve paid...but they say no. So at least theyre not doing this optifast for the profit. And it seems like they want the best diet for my safety and to shrink my liver. I have faith in them.

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I dont know...i guess its through trial and error they think this is better then opti fast or any other method...but i dont know...it WILL be hard but yeah, i will strictly follow it, because its for my own good. I even asked if Optifast was better....cuz if it was i wouldve paid...but they say no. So at least theyre not doing this optifast for the profit. And it seems like they want the best diet for my safety and to shrink my liver. I have faith in them.

If you can do it, that's what counts.

Many times... well think about it. Some people are just plain stupid. And it is easier to make it simple and easy for everyone and to limit food to two choices vs. giving the stupid of the world a chance to think.

I know, that sounds mean but it's true. I've had patients eat their suppositories, ram suppositories up their butt without removing the foil wrapper and they question why that hurts. They drink their enemas, and put contraceptive jelly on their morning toast. Sometimes you get to a point that you just make it easy for everyone instead of assuming some folks have a working brain.

That's why I suggested that if you think you will fail at cottage cheese and yogurt to ask WHY *those* two foods. You seem to have a working brain and critical thinking skills. Not everyone has those abilities. In medicine people get lazy and instead of figuring out which people have the ability to think they just make it easy across the board.

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WOW, i'm a health science student, hopefully medstudent to-be. I guess you learn a lot about people when you work with them...especially when they come to you when they do something stupid, you can learn much about how some people are stupid. I like the one about the falling on the flashlight...please don't tell me people still use that line. Oh doctor, i tripped and fell on the flashlight and now i can't remove it from my rectum. HAHAH

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WOW, i'm a health science student, hopefully medstudent to-be. I guess you learn a lot about people when you work with them...especially when they come to you when they do something stupid, you can learn much about how some people are stupid. I like the one about the falling on the flashlight...please don't tell me people still use that line. Oh doctor, i tripped and fell on the flashlight and now i can't remove it from my rectum. HAHAH

I've had patients claim to fall on a coke bottle.

I'm telling you, people are stupid.

I've had women explain that they don't have the slightest idea why they have bite marks on their breasts.

I've had women claim they didn't know it was not cool to put a telephone (the whole thing) in their vagina.

I've had men claim not to know that you should remove the aluminum foil wrapper on a suppository before ramming it up their back sides.

I've had patients claim that the years worth of needle tracks on their arms, legs, and eye balls were from others holding them down and injecting expensive drugs in their veins. Strangers do this, mind you.

And they do it often.

Tell me, how often does the medical profession give adults a baby bottle of salt Water with a 6" nipple coated with KY jelly? Seriously, how often does that happen?

ANYONE who works with people have stupid people stories. I have been in medicine for over 20 years and I don't know how the world doesn't know stupid people out number the smart people. :)

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Please, don't even try liquid Vitamins. They are seriously disgusting. They even stink. You might be able to do it for a short time but long term? I don't know anyone that has.

I have to disagree. I buy liquid vitamins from liquid Health and they have no bad taste whatsoever. You can drink it straight or mix it in juice. Everyone has their opinion, but I like these!

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        We have to remember that everyone moves at their own pace. For some it may be harder to adjust, people may have other factors at play that feed into the unhealthy relationship with food e.g. eating disorders, trauma. I'd hope those who you are referring to address this outside of this forum, with a professional.


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