Fiddleman 4,376 Posted May 8, 2014 You will lose muscle and strength post op, especially in the upper body. There is no way to prevent that with massive calorie deficits, even if you get to a point of eating over the recommended minimum Protein intake. Also you will not be lifting heavy for a long time nor do you want to in order not to rip, tear' or otherwise damage yourself. Try and eat as much Protein as you can during the "losing" phase and eat as few carbs as you can. Whatever carbs you do eat should be in the form of good carbs. Try and not cheat. Your future results will thank you. When your weight converges on goal weight, slowly add good carbs and work towards lifting heavier and consistently. You do not want to eat a whole lot of carbs during the losing phase as that will slow your weight loss way down for most folks. Eventually, you will want to start eating 50% protein, 30% carb and 20% fat while you are still reducing body fat, even if at goal weight. Once you body fat reaches your goal (say, 10-12%), change the macros to 40% protein, 40% carb and 20% fat, still eating as clean as you can the entire time. Balancing out protein and carbs is ideal as protein needs carbs in order for optimal protein synthesis to occur. You can also play with carbohydrate timing. For example, I eat most of my carbs for first meal and meal after working out. The insulin response is going to be at optimal levels at these two times to maximize protein synthesis. Eat mostly protein and veggies the rest of the day, every 2-3 hours. Depending in your ideal weight, you will want to eat 1-1.5 G protein per # of body weight and 300-500 calories under your point of calorie in and calorie out homeostasis. For me, that is about 220 G protein and 1800 calories respectively. Always drink a lot of Water the whole time. You will not only lose weight faster, but you will also cut faster because your hormones will balance out by themselves as the various toxins are flushed from your body. I am a strong believer in the application of nutritional and sports science ahead of the actual lifting. The actual lifting will result in disappointment if one does not get the nutrition and timing right. As for the actual lifting, I currently do a standard split routine in the context of p90 x and am finishing up this program at the end of this month (may repeat or go onto another program like p90x/insanity hybrid or p90x2). It is a really good program. I also like doing workouts from "you are your own gym" because there are so many benefits behind functional training that you some times do not get from traditional split isometric routines (chest/back,legs/back, biceps/shoulders/back, etc). For this reason, I also enjoy cross fit. Oh how I love cross fit, but you do have to be careful about preventing injury and overtraining. 2 swimbikerun and NewSetOfCurves reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swimbikerun 1,046 Posted May 8, 2014 Fiddleman we must have read the same medical research. For swimmers, its dead on - although it would need to be modified as you have done so because we do need more carbs for the swim than the weights. Still need it though for upper body strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcn1970 239 Posted May 9, 2014 Go into it slow and you will be fine. The change to a super high Protein diet is helpful as well and not an option after surgery. I have lost over 140 lbs and gained over 20 lbs in muscle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenkins 26 Posted January 11, 2016 Anyone lift seriously after surgery . I have been lifting more weight than I ever had in my life but I am also the heaviest I have ever been. Having surgery in next few months . I am so concerned about being weak and losing a lot if muscle when I lose weight Hey McCarthy, Would love to hear how you got on with your weightlifting after surgery? I have also been seriously lifting for over the past year, hitting some decent numbers. I think the general advice is to wait at least 6 weeks before going back lifting - what approach did you take? Did you roll back the numbers right to the bar & work up? how slow or fast was it? What restricts you, is it purely fatigue? I am not being open about my surgery so not sure how I am going to explain my rapidly decreasing numbers! Going from a 100kg squat to 20kg! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenkins 26 Posted January 22, 2016 It appears I am having little success trying to revive this old thread! @@Dub you seem to be the guy that knows a lot about everything - any advice on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dub 9,922 Posted January 23, 2016 It appears I am having little success trying to revive this old thread! @@Dub you seem to be the guy that knows a lot about everything - any advice on this? I have yet to resume lifting post-sleeve. Allowing abdominal hernia repair to heal and dicey with right shoulder. I want to badly, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aroundhky 1,174 Posted January 29, 2016 Hey, I just saw this. Sorry, I don't visit much. It's a good topic, so I hope this thread can be helpful and if I can help with anything I'll be glad to. 4 year sleeve veteran here that lifts a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geogeo 1 Posted January 29, 2016 Hey, I just saw this. Sorry, I don't visit much. It's a good topic, so I hope this thread can be helpful and if I can help with anything I'll be glad to. 4 year sleeve veteran here that lifts a lot. Did weightlifting help with batwings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aroundhky 1,174 Posted February 1, 2016 Hey, I just saw this. Sorry, I don't visit much. It's a good topic, so I hope this thread can be helpful and if I can help with anything I'll be glad to. 4 year sleeve veteran here that lifts a lot. Did weightlifting help with batwings? Hello Georgeo! I didn't really have a problem with bat wings, but I think like many other small extra skin problem areas, resistance training can help. Tricep work and even some bicep work can help SOME in that area. Maybe some dips, tricep push down and even bicep curls that help isolate some of the arm muscles. Also, pullups, which mostly work lats, but work arms indirectly may be beneficial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites