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[Sooverit! 1]

Hello everyone:

Technology c a n help people, and this is one example. Not only is this surgery amazing but this site is in that it can help people cope with all the changes that must take place.

How about the "lower" BMIers? I would love to know if the decision was more difficult and also more expensive if your insurance doesn't cover it. Has anyone had regrets? Are there any surgeons who will do the proceedure if you have a 35 BMI but NOT on meds yet?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Morgan

[Jachut 487]

Well I'm in Australia and you dont have to fight here to get the surgery at a BMI of 35 which is where I was at, with no comorbidities (apart from a bad ankle). It cost me the same as it cost anyone else, and you really dont go self pay here as our medical system is entirely different - but basically if you have private health insurance and your doc agrees to do it, the health funds dont argue. And if you dont and have it done through the public system you may have to wait a long time, but it will cost you pretty much nothing. You can go privately and self pay but most docs wont touch that due to the likelihood of running out of funds if you need revision surgery etc.

It was the best decision I ever made though. I am now normal weight and whislt I would like to be a bit lighter still, I would be happy if I stayed here, I am maintaining effortlessly at the moment.

[Sooverit! 1]

Dear Jachut:

Thanks for replying! I want to move to your beautiful country! You must feel great being so much healthier now? HOw long did it take you to lose 34 kg? I know I will be given a hard time here...we are backwards...you only get treated if you are sick if you are well you are ignored. Prevention is not subscribed to here which is so foolish ofcourse! My twin sis died last year in her sleep she was only 47 and obese. Iwonder if they will look at that? Thanks again !@ take care,

Margs

[Sooverit! 1]

She died from obesity complications.

[lianna 3]

My BMI was just under 40. I had to pay for surgery out of pocket because my insurance has a total exclusion against any WLS. I have not regretted it for one minute. I also have no doubt that my weight would would have crept higher and higher as it had for the past 15 years.....so I am particularly glad that I didnt wait any longer to have this done. It was not a hard choice for me.......I looked at years worth of efforts in trying to take some of the weight off, and keep it off.....and realized that in 15 years my weight was slowly increasing each year. I didnt want to wait until I had created serious health issues and permanent damage to my body. I now think it is the best thing I could have EVER done!!

[Sooverit! 1]

Wow good for you Lianna and great weight loss! Do you feel like a new person? You sound so clear about this and it helps me alot as I have almost the same amount of weight to get ride of as you did. One day I think this is exactly what I should do then the next day I think I'm being nuts. I think that if I had a health issue it would be a no brainer but thanks to your letter...it reaffirmed that it is only a matter of time before I cause as you said "permanant damage to my body" Thanks for the great response. Marg

[susannah 2]

Dear Jachut:

Thanks for replying! I want to move to your beautiful country! You must feel great being so much healthier now? HOw long did it take you to lose 34 kg? I know I will be given a hard time here...we are backwards...you only get treated if you are sick if you are well you are ignored. Prevention is not subscribed to here which is so foolish ofcourse! My twin sis died last year in her sleep she was only 47 and obese. Iwonder if they will look at that? Thanks again !@ take care,

Margs

Mate everybody wants to move to our country! Best country in the world bar none! Sorry yanks.:biggrin1: Susannah

[Sooverit! 1]

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[jdee 0]

Hi,

I had the band put on in March of this year with a BMI of 35. I have already lost 22lbs and my first fill isn't until next week. The band was a great decision for me. I think I had tried every diet out there with a yoyo kind of success. I of course did not qualify for insurance. I went to Mexico, and Dr. Rumbaut did the procedure for about half the price. I would highly recommend him. I say go for it. It is a shame America is so behind on this type of surgery

[Jachut 487]

Oh dont worry - we'll have Americanised health and education systems before too long, grumble grumble. We already have Krispy Kremes and Starbucks moving in!

If John Howard sucked up to George Bush any harder, he'd disappear up his behind.

We'll probably be singing America the Beautiful too in 20 years time, lol.

Sooverit, its taken me 16 months to lose 34kg, quite slow but yes I feel like an entirely new person. And of course being lower BMI, you get noticeable results that much sooner.

[Sooverit! 1]

That doesn't sound slow to me at all! When you are the non banded your just happy to not gain weight this month!

[ladyvase 0]

I was banded on 3/1/07 my bmI was 35 too. I was fully covered by my insurance I always thought I was 5'9" my dr. said I was 5'8" and I think He added a couple of extra pounds too. I did have health issues.