Reel me in, sleevers

[sleevethefatbehind 95]

I want to flail my arms and board the doors to keep people from entering a room to get a Lap-Band.

I genuinely don't get people choosing this surgery. They're setting themselves up for failure, no? And the Banders reasoning makes zero sense to me. They like that it's reversible? WTF? Incase i decide I want to be obese again one day? It's safer? Then just don't get anything done!

Reel me in, Sleevers....

Edited December 31, 2013 by Alex Brecher
Language used was against posted TOS

[RJ'S/beginning 5,358]

You have just been sleeved right?!!!!!!!! Wow and you are already feeling this good that you can pass your opinion on to lap band patients...

Your funny! We shall see how it all goes for you and the days, weeks, months and years go by....

I am glad you chose the sleeve for yourself...I had the 3 options and chose the sleeve...People have to do what they have to do and that is that.....

Reel you in..is that possible sleever?.....Your adorable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fluffnomore 1,235]

I think there's room to be respectful of their choices and let them feel that way, since I certainly don't respond well to someone else telling me that my choices are wrong.

Then again, I haven't had a lap band, and I truly don't know…just as banders don't know how we feel once we're sleeved. I could only go off which option made the most sense for me, and I'm happy with my choice.

:-) Hope this helps.

[gamergirl 4,610]

I want to flail my arms and board the doors to keep people from entering a room to get a Lap-Band.

I Googled 'Lap-Banders are idiots' today.

I genuinely don't get people choosing this surgery. They're setting themselves up for failure, no? And the Banders reasoning makes zero sense to me. They like that it's reversible? WTF? Incase i decide I want to be obese again one day? It's safer? Then just don't get anything done!

Reel me in, Sleevers....

Actually I don't think the results support your assertion that they are setting themselves up for failure. The success rates for lap bands are much higher than the success rates for those choosing to lose weight without any form of WLS. About 90% of those who try to lose weight without WLS gain it back. The numbers are probably less than half that for banders, and that's not that different for sleevers.

By the large, research indicates that the sleeve and RNY have equal rates of long-term success, and the banders follow very closely behind. The differences that are found are more statistically different than that they are behaviorally different.

[RJ'S/beginning 5,358]

I want to flail my arms and board the doors to keep people from entering a room to get a Lap-Band.

I Googled 'Lap-Banders are idiots' today.

I genuinely don't get people choosing this surgery. They're setting themselves up for failure, no? And the Banders reasoning makes zero sense to me. They like that it's reversible? WTF? Incase i decide I want to be obese again one day? It's safer? Then just don't get anything done!

Reel me in, Sleevers....

Actually I don't think the results support your assertion that they are setting themselves up for failure. The success rates for lap bands are much higher than the success rates for those choosing to lose weight without any form of WLS. About 90% of those who try to lose weight without WLS gain it back. The numbers are probably less than half that for banders, and that's not that different for sleevers.

By the large, research indicates that the sleeve and RNY have equal rates of long-term success, and the banders follow very closely behind. The differences that are found are more statistically different than that they are behaviorally different.

What GG said!

[sleevethefatbehind 95]

I was opinionated before my surgery too. It just seems that I've recently lost my mind

I feel great!!

You have just been sleeved right?!!!!!!!! Wow and you are already feeling this good that you can pass your opinion on to lap band patients...

Your funny! We shall see how it all goes for you and the days, weeks, months and years go by....

I am glad you chose the sleeve for yourself...I had the 3 options and chose the sleeve...People have to do what they have to do and that is that.....

Reel you in..is that possible sleever?.....Your adorable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RJ'S/beginning 5,358]

You haven't lost your mind...you are just totally convinced that the decision you made was 100 % right for you so therefore spread the news!!!!!!!

There have been times on this forum where I have gotten so worked up over an issue that i have had to do a clean up in aisle 1 or just leave this forum...

You have all the rights in the world to have an opinion..And I know what you are thinking..It is stated for their own benefits...but that is not how it works I'm afraid....

No one can judge the choices patients make because it was theirs to make just like it was yours.....I am thrilled that you are headed down the road of WLS..

Keep us posted about your journey...Would love to hear your HONEST thoughts

[2muchfun 8,927]

Thanks for the reasoned responses. Sleeved the fat needs to be reminded this is a forum for support and not obesity helps or other forums that tolerate misinformation. We bandster's welcome reasoned responses with accurate information.

But to Celebrate on this forum her own early success and to insinuate others choices are idiotic is very tasteless. Show some class ms sleevethefat. You are so new to this you might be eating your words later on. I hope not and wish you all the success in the world.

The decision to have WLS is individual and must be made by each of us.

[sleevethefatbehind 95]

It's not misinformation! mayo Clinic REALLY stated that it was not an effective stand alone procedure. Allergan REALLY sold the Lap-Band.

Now go back over to your Lap-Band swimming pool & throw some more bleach in those tainted waters.

Thanks for the reasoned responses. Sleeved the fat needs to be reminded this is a forum for support and not obesity helps or other forums that tolerate misinformation. We bandster's welcome reasoned responses with accurate information.

But to Celebrate on this forum her own early success and to insinuate others choices are idiotic is very tasteless. Show some class ms sleevethefat. You are so new to this you might be eating your words later on. I hope not and wish you all the success in the world.

The decision to have WLS is individual and must be made by each of us.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Why do you feel the need to be so condescending and downright rude?

I love my sleeve. It's the best thing I've ever one for myself. That said, someone else's decision to choose another option certainly doesn't affect me in any way. I certainly see no reason to be so derisive about something that has no bearing on you.

[mistysj 1,940]

Lots of bandsters are successful. One of them is Alex Brecher, the founder of BariatricPal. Unless someone is your spouse or child or parent or best friend, you don't really have the right to try to change their mind. The info is there and they are adults who need to make their own decisions. Live your own life and walk your own journey. Best of luck!

[Seela 1,187]

It's not misinformation! mayo Clinic REALLY stated that it was not an effective stand alone procedure. Allergan REALLY sold the Lap-Band.

Now go back over to your Lap-Band swimming pool & throw some more bleach in those tainted waters.

Umm... wow, your really something

[sleevethefatbehind 95]

2muchfun is following me around on the forums to throw fuel on the fire. It's getting a little creepy.

Why do you feel the need to be so condescending and downright rude?

I love my sleeve. It's the best thing I've ever one for myself. That said, someone else's decision to choose another option certainly doesn't affect me in any way. I certainly see no reason to be so derisive about something that has no bearing on you.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

2muchfun is following me around on the forums to throw fuel on the fire. It's getting a little creepy.

Why do you feel the need to be so condescending and downright rude?

I love my sleeve. It's the best thing I've ever one for myself. That said, someone else's decision to choose another option certainly doesn't affect me in any way. I certainly see no reason to be so derisive about something that has no bearing on you.

Ok, but you really didn't answer my question.

[2muchfun 8,927]

OK sleevethefat, let's try to have a sincere debate? I agree Allergan sold the lapband product. Someone else bought it so apparently the new company(Apollo Endosurgery) believed it was a good investment? We may never know why Allergan sold the product. The product was out of their mainstream product line and only represented 3% of their sales. They claim they wanted to focus on higher profit products for the future. To state otherwise would be speculation so let's just agree the product was sold and is still a viable medical product?

BTW-Mercedes Benz sold off their shares of Chrysler several years ago speaking of companies selling divisions or interests.

I looked over the mayo clinic site but couldn't find anything stating the band is no longer offered. I did find that they are using the lap band less frequently and prefer the sleeve. http://www.mayoclinic.org/medicalprofs/bariatric-surgery-eov7n1.html

I think there are enough studies out there to illustrate that the band has more revisions and patients lose less fat with this type of procedure. But, a reasonable person may come to the conclusion that this type of surgery works best for them and their place in life.

Sleevethefat, FYI, should my band ever fail me, my first choice would be to look hard at the sleeve procedure. I find it to be a logical progression for me. But, to denigrate thousands of people on these forums as idiots is wrong and I hope you know it?

If you can shed more light as to why you believe so strongly that the band is so idiotic, I'm all ears. But, you've not convinced me with your two samples?

My apologies to all sleevers, I don't want to interfere with your forum but she came over to our forum and made some inaccurate statements. I'm not stalking her, I'm trying to understand and maybe educate her how we all try to work together here on the forums.

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