Anybody Else Cheating?

[LouiseC 1,031]

MississippiQueen, I apologise if my post read as condescending. That was not my intention, I was trying to share part of my own journey which was very much about learning to change my mind about things. To do this I had to often go far away from the emotional and into the facts, hence the dictionary reference. But on reread I can see how in your current space this could be viewed as lecturing. Please be assured that my intention was far from lecturing and my words come from my own experiences with failure and poor choices along the journey I have been on.

Edited December 6, 2013 by LouiseC

[Arts137 1,811]

I can guarantee that everyone will get candid feedback. Sometimes gentile, sometimes not so much, but Always with love. Whenever we post, we expect that love and honesty.

[Noor1969 150]

MQ, if this is any consolation to you, I'm struggling with some "cheating" issues too. I saw my NUT today and she told me that I can't have caffeine 3 months post-surgery and it's also not allowed when I do my 2 week pre-op diet. OK, it's all about hydration...I can see why you shouldn't have caffeine post-surgery but WTF is wrong with it during the pre-op diet?!? Why is hydration such an issue then? It's not like I won't be able to drink extra Fluid to compensate--my stomach hasn't been sleeved yet.

Anyhoo, I think it's a stupid rule, but I will comply with the program because, frankly, I'm scared not to. I will bring it up with my surgeon when I see her in a couple of weeks but I know what her answer will be. I really should just suck it up and deal with it, right?

[Arts137 1,811]

MQ, if this is any consolation to you, I'm struggling with some "cheating" issues too. I saw my NUT today and she told me that I can't have caffeine 3 months post-surgery and it's also not allowed when I do my 2 week pre-op diet. OK, it's all about hydration...I can see why you shouldn't have caffeine post-surgery but WTF is wrong with it during the pre-op diet?!? Why is hydration such an issue then? It's not like I won't be able to drink extra Fluid to compensate--my stomach hasn't been sleeved yet.

Anyhoo, I think it's a stupid rule, but I will comply with the program because, frankly, I'm scared not to. I will bring it up with my surgeon when I see her in a couple of weeks but I know what her answer will be. I really should just suck it up and deal with it, right?

My program hates caffeine, saying it's a gastric irritant. I do break this one rule, I admit it, but please consider closely before bending or breaking any of your program's guidelines.

[SueRN 50]

I didn't post to scold or make you feel bad about "cheating". I want you to be safe. Everyone should be aware there is far worse at stake than not losing weight. Following directions in the beginning is so important, doing otherwise is gambling with your health. However, it's your risk to take.

[Hidden from view 159]

Like Arts says, is really easy to eat simple carbs. Sometimes I feel like the Protein hasn't really hit the spot! I'm full, but I'm still hungry. So I started having a couple of crackers at bed time. Then I started putting butter on my 2 crackers. Last night I had 4 crackers with butter. Got up this morning and threw the crackers away! Too dangerous to have them in the house!!!

[Arts137 1,811]

crackers, Cookies, cake, pudding, fruit juice, bread... I am a junkie (both in my head but also in my body), simple carbs just do me wrong, I tell ya!

[Fluffnomore 1,235]

At 6 weeks out now and able to start transitioning most foods back into my diet, the interesting thing to me is that not being able/allowed to eat stuff was really a helpful crutch for me. Now is when the real work starts! I was at a party just last night and I had to survey the offerings really thoroughly before I made my choices. In the middle of this I had the flash: wow, if I can eat a lamb meatball, I am sure I can eat a cracker…it won't hurt anything if I let it "melt" in my mouth. And I had to smack myself upside the head (figuratively!) and say, "No. It will hurt you. It will hurt your progress. Protein only." (Thank goodness this was a "paleo" focused party. Lots of Protein choices.) Like Arts says though, because I haven't had simple carbs, I don't really crave them, so I don't have that uphill/downhill battle to fight.

The last 6 weeks have been good training for portion size, counting, and all of the framework kind of habits. But when the choices are arrayed before you in all their dazzling glory? That's when the s*&t gets real.

For me, anyway.

[Kindle 8,667]

I just started reading the book, "Emotional First Aid Kit - A Practical Guide to Life after Bariatric Surgery" by Cynthia Alexander. I'm only on chapter 3, but so far has been a pretty good read to help me wrap my head around what I'm getting myself into. She stresses very hard that the surgery is actually the easy part. We have to come to grips with the emotional and social aspects of our eating habits and make changes for a healthier lifestyle. The surgery should be the last step in the entire process...not the first. The mental part is much harder than the physical part.

Since I am self-pay, I've missed out on the psych eval and therapy sessions a lot of insurance companies require. This book is providing a lot of insight into the mental and emotional struggles that I will be going through and I hope this will help with my ability to succeed. So if you are looking to "cheat" (gain an advantage to success), might I suggest getting this book.

[EarthyGoalie 253]

Speaking of "cheating", :-( I have been so bad today. I dot know what got into me. I was out with some friends who don't know that I had the surgery, and went to a French bakery. I tried to be good and order some duck, but it was bad, I returned it, and they suggested I just play it safe, and get a sandwich. I didn't even hesitate... I ordered a "croque Monsieur" which is a sandwich, most of the time made with baguette and Swiss cheese, and ham. Sometimes with a bechamel on top. I ate 4 regular bites of it. Then they gave free mimosas, and I had 3 to 4 sips :-/

And we all went to menchies to get frozen yogurt, and I didn't buy any, but I literally had a little tasting cup of each flavor. I feel very bad about all this; especially the French baguette. I need to get back on track NOW. Being a carb addict, it just triggered something and I want more. And the worst part is that It was not uncomfortable at all. I was absolutely fine. Isn't that unusual for being only 2 months post op? *sigh*

Well, I'm gonna go have a Protein Shake now, and try to forget today ever happened....

[calicakes 24]

Mine was on Nov 19th. I had nothing by mouth day of surgery, not even an ice chip. I didn't want it. The next day I was dying of thirst and that's all I wanted. Even now, I don't want that much. I'm just not hungry, I force myself to eat. I'm on pureed/mushy. I can eat 1 tbls of uncooked grits( 1/3 of a serving), half a scrambled egg and Im full. Today I had a 3/4 of a kids Soup at Panera and I was full. I had 3 shrimp the other night and those made me burp. I'm now staying away from food that makes me feel like crap. There is a protocol for a reason, your stomach needs to heal. Its so hard for me to believe that I am truly not hungry, but I know it will come back one day soon.

oh no not me! I wouldn't dare cheat in the beginning. I had surgery on nov 18. first week was Clear liquids, 2nd week was full liquids. That week was thanksgiving and I had a Protein shake for thanksgiving lunch. I went to my dad's house that dad and purposely showed up after everyone was done eating. Worked out great. I wasn't hungry anyway so it wasn't a big deal. This week is purees. So now its cottage cheese and chicken salad. Still not hungry. Just eating cuz i have too.

[mistysj 1,940]

Uncooked grits?? Why?!

[MissKoKoKiss 30]

Uncooked grits?? Why?!

Lol I think she meant that's how she measured them, not ate them like that hopefully.

[rls41998 91]

5wks out today and after wk 4 I was told by my dr I could eat anything I want as long as it is mush before I swallow. To wait til 7wks out before I try lettuce and salads. Every dr has their own plan and each is different. I was on cream Soup day after surgery. Soft foods after 9 days.

[Arts137 1,811]

Goalie,

Please do NOT forget. We all have learing experiences. This is one of yours. You own it and I KNOW will learn how to plan for the future from it.

Remember this DID not make you "fail". You can only fail if you quit!

(hugs)

Speaking of "cheating", :-( I have been so bad today. I dot know what got into me. I was out with some friends who don't know that I had the surgery, and went to a French bakery. I tried to be good and order some duck, but it was bad, I returned it, and they suggested I just play it safe, and get a sandwich. I didn't even hesitate... I ordered a "croque Monsieur" which is a sandwich, most of the time made with baguette and Swiss cheese, and ham. Sometimes with a bechamel on top. I ate 4 regular bites of it. Then they gave free mimosas, and I had 3 to 4 sips :-/
And we all went to menchies to get frozen yogurt, and I didn't buy any, but I literally had a little tasting cup of each flavor. I feel very bad about all this; especially the French baguette. I need to get back on track NOW. Being a carb addict, it just triggered something and I want more. And the worst part is that It was not uncomfortable at all. I was absolutely fine. Isn't that unusual for being only 2 months post op? *sigh*
Well, I'm gonna go have a Protein shake now, and try to forget today ever happened....