Arts137 1,811 Posted December 3, 2013 I am about the same 'distance' out as Lipstick. And I have similar concerns. I dealt with Thanksgiving (and will deal with Christmas) the same way. I will have a daily food plan that I WILL follow. I cannot snack on all the stuff left out. When I do, it's Game Over for that day, and is hellishly hard to regain control over the next DAYS. 2 sophiepants and No game reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Healthier2day1227 326 Posted December 3, 2013 Sounds like a neat kid.He is, but sometimes the kids around him aren't.From the minute he was diagnosed, he has been a open book about it.. When he was little (5) He would tell kids I have tics.. Not the kind that bite but... Then he would go into the whole history of Tourette's. And the kids would say ok and life and play would go on. Now he's 11 and in junior high. It's not always as easy. He has two Major strikes he is gifted smart and he makes funny movements.. Oh three strikes! He has a momma that always wants to kick a kids azz if he messes with my kid:p Ya, the kids can be mean. With my son either he is oblivious to their teasing or they just don't tease him. He's funny though, he said he wishes he had the kind of Tourette's where you blurt out obscenities because then he could get away with cussing. Lol. And What About Bob is one of his favorite movies! 1 No game reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted December 3, 2013 Ya, the kids can be mean. With my son either he is oblivious to their teasing or they just don't tease him. He's funny though, he said he wishes he had the kind of Tourette's where you blurt out obscenities because then he could get away with cussing. Lol. And What About Bob is one of his favorite movies!Lol,I'm glad my son doesn't have that kind because he would of learned some choice words from me very early on 1 Healthier2day1227 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted December 3, 2013 I eat... out of boredom... If I'm 'engaged' in something, I eat less. Evenings.... bad.. very bad.... My compulsive behaviors are nocturnal! I think I told you this. I will purposely stay up late to do these things (compulsively eat) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madam Reverie 2,958 Posted December 3, 2013 I eat... out of boredom... If I'm 'engaged' in something, I eat less. Evenings.... bad.. very bad.... My compulsive behaviors are nocturnal! I think I told you this. I will purposely stay up late to do these things (compulsively eat) Of course we do! Why, the most essential, compulsive TV viewing is scheduled for 03-stupid-o'clock in the morning, just for this purpose, isn't it?! I have never been so intellectually stimulated than the mornings when I'm watching 'Don't tell the Bride', whilst stuffing my face with whatever is delectably easy to eat and laden with fatty/salty goodness... <burp> 1 No game reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted December 3, 2013 Of course we do! Why, the most essential, compulsive TV viewing is scheduled for 03-stupid-o'clock in the morning, just for this purpose, isn't it?! I have never been so intellectually stimulated than the mornings when I'm watching 'Don't tell the Bride', whilst stuffing my face with whatever is delectably easy to eat and laden with fatty/salty goodness... <burp> Two days ago I thought I'd outsmart my nocturnal little demon.. I went to bed at 8:30 HAHA! You hungry sneak eating bastard take that!! Slept like a baby until 1:30am it woke me up saying "you can't sleep" "you can go downstairs and just drink tea" "I promise tea, that's all I want" Ha! "You lying sack of poop!" I said to it!! So I bored myself to tears (and sleep) trying to remember the name of that film starring Demi Moore the one where she was a ghost, you know the one with the pottery wheel scene... It worked! sweet sleep! Until 4:30 it said "eat food at this magical hour does not count for yesterday or today's total!" It's a sneaky nocturnal bastard... 3 Madam Reverie, Arts137 and feedyoureye reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Water Nazi 61 Posted December 3, 2013 It's slow and it sneaks up on you. Being "aware" and not letting your guard down is a big piece of advice I have for those of you who are still in the "easy to resist" category. I found this thread so interesting. I have been in OCD overdrive researching for my upcoming VSG. I thought I only had my post-op meds left to research ie ulcer prevention, gallbladder, constipation/diarrhea (wtf either or, not both please). Now I need to deal with the mental aspect. Laura- Thanks for starting the thread. I've printed your OCD/Food Addiction excerpt to be page one in my binder.< /p> M2G - I put your comment on the cover as a constant reminder it won't always be easy. Thanks girls. W 5 Arts137, Butterthebean, Ms skinniness and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsereno 2,525 Posted December 6, 2013 I've been busy with holiday stuff, but I'm here with everyone who is further out. It's very hard to resist as the years go by and I can eat more. It's a week after Thanksgiving, I am over my bounce range by two pounds and I just stuffed a gingerbread cookie in my mouth. For me, I have to weigh every day, and even that has not prevented holiday creep. I have to set myself first and remember as someone ( maybe lipstick lady) said, self soothing does not gave to be self sabotage. I do not deserve to overeat just because I've been busy and it's the holidays. I deserve to be at my preferred weight and healthy, happy, and strong. I'll have more to say later when my life settles down a bit. And on a final note, as with others, night is the worst. Like Butter, I sometimes go to bed early. The only hard rule I have 100% stuck to is no eating after I fall asleep until I get up the next morning. Pre-op, I was quite the middle of the night snacker. Lynda 3 No game, Ms skinniness and Butterthebean reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffnomore 1,235 Posted December 6, 2013 So let me ask this: from the perspective of a nighttime eater, how can the people around you support you? I'm married to a one, and I don't pretend to understand everything that drives the behavior. But what can your spouse, or friends, do to help? I recognize a lot of the "don't do this" answers. Just wondering if there are strategies that can be employed by anyone else in your orbit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted December 6, 2013 So let me ask this: from the perspective of a nighttime eater, how can the people around you support you? I'm married to a one, and I don't pretend to understand everything that drives the behavior. But what can your spouse, or friends, do to help? I recognize a lot of the "don't do this" answers. Just wondering if there are strategies that can be employed by anyone else in your orbit. I'm not sure what the others will say but for me? It is something only I can change. My spouse while he is great at listening to my problems and supporting me with unconditional love. He cannot help change my behaviors I must do that 3 Ms skinniness, Butterthebean and mistysj reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms skinniness 3,003 Posted December 6, 2013 I've been busy with holiday stuff, but I'm here with everyone who is further out. It's very hard to resist as the years go by and I can eat more. It's a week after Thanksgiving, I am over my bounce range by two pounds and I just stuffed a gingerbread cookie in my mouth. For me, I have to weigh every day, and even that has not prevented holiday creep. I have to set myself first and remember as someone ( maybe lipstick lady) said, self soothing does not gave to be self sabotage. I do not deserve to overeat just because I've been busy and it's the holidays. I deserve to be at my preferred weight and healthy, happy, and strong. I'll have more to say later when my life settles down a bit. And on a final note, as with others, night is the worst. Like Butter, I sometimes go to bed early. The only hard rule I have 100% stuck to is no eating after I fall asleep until I get up the next morning. Pre-op, I was quite the middle of the night snacker. Lynda I have found myself overeating in an obsessive way......I struggle with this during the time that I am in an emotional upheaval and feeling like I have no control of anything. I am going through a major life change right now with DD impulsively getting married on 12/9 and her wanting to move to a different state in January with her BF and his mother.....I know this relationship will most likely flounder within a few months. Hopefully not, but the signs are there. So I am eating even when it gets hard to swallow and then I get nauseous.. An hour or so later I start eating some peanuts and realized this an threw the in the trash....later went to dinner (1/5 hours later) ordered some eggs and bacon. I am so thankful they tasted horrible and I discarded them. This is not easy. I haven't had this experience since being sleeved and am afraid I can't stop it.... So let me ask this: from the perspective of a nighttime eater, how can the people around you support you? I'm married to a one, and I don't pretend to understand everything that drives the behavior. But what can your spouse, or friends, do to help? I recognize a lot of the "don't do this" answers. Just wondering if there are strategies that can be employed by anyone else in your orbit. I try to get out of the kitchen after 7:00pm and I don't really have anything in the house. I do have Quest Protein bars that do get me, but I'm determined to cancel the automatic order I have because they are simply crack to me......it doesn't always work, but most of the time it's all good....at night, I'm too lazy to get up so I just stay in bed until morning...... Laura ven is correct, only you can change your behaviors, if he tries you will be extremely angry at him..... As I was typing I got an advertisement across my screen for some game on facebook... WTH! can anyone stop this Alex or is it my computer? 1 Butterthebean reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arts137 1,811 Posted December 6, 2013 I just cannot have some things. One simple carb and I am in the throes of 'head-hunger-famishment' for days. So no gingerbread man for me. And as for the night, I am a twisted sick puppy, I'll admit it. I go to bed by 8 in the evening and get up well before 4:00AM. And am not hungry in the morning. So, dinner at six, and no food or drink after. Boring? Yep, maybe, but I do not do well with spontaneous (food) ideas. I so rarely find myself longinf for some brocolli. 2 Butterthebean and Madam Reverie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffnomore 1,235 Posted December 6, 2013 Hi, Ms. Skinniness. I'm not the binger, he is…but even after 16 years we are still navigating this. We have tried: no trigger food in the house. He fills the void with any kind of food. But if I keep things to a minimum he also gets upset at that. (I do the shopping.) So, everyone eats yogurt, but often I will go to bed with 10 yogurts in the fridge and wake up to none. Peanut butter: I now buy the individual serving packages from costco and hide them so the kids can make lunch. Cookies and cakes are just not in the house, most of the time, because they're huge triggers. We've put a marine lock on the fridge. He started popping the adhesive pads off with a knife and then super-gluing them back into place, until I noticed superglue on the floor. Broke one of my good knives, too. At that time, I said, "Man, wouldn't it be less trouble to get in the car and go to the store?" He said, "You don't understand." I agreed…ps none of this was hostile. I lock food into my car, put it in my closet, under the bed. He will search my office top to bottom if I hide it in there but won't disturb me in the bedroom if I go to bed first. I'm not sure he knows about that. I hate being complicit in this way, but there are some things that he cannot get into (either tough to replace, or meant for someone else, etc) and so this is what we do. I guess this is just the question of, "Is there anything else I can do that I'm not thinking of?" If the answer is no, stay out of it…so be it. 1 Ms skinniness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms skinniness 3,003 Posted December 6, 2013 It sounds like he has to be the one to decide he wants to stop. This is a compulsion for him. You are doing the best you can. My husband will eat and eat and eat if there's food left over at times and qwhen I tried to portion his food, he gets really angry. So I have resorted to not cooking that much. Just enough for him and me. I did get in trouble when my son and his girl friend was here and I had to stretch the grass fed steak to serve 4 adults instead of 2. He had a hissy fit and at that point I decided that he has to work on his own issue with eating. Hard choice but it is well worth it. Today, he is eating less on his own but I really don't cook much anymore bc I don't eat that much......It sounds like your DH has a much deeper compulsion but does have some boundaries when it comes to the bedroom. Good luck and remember, you can only take care of you and set a good example for him and the kids...... 1 Arts137 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffnomore 1,235 Posted December 6, 2013 I have learned that there is "code" for this too. He loves to complain that there is nothing in the house to eat. I can patiently go through and point out everything (chicken, cold cuts, leftovers, etc) but what he really means is: something easy, portable, and "yummy." Problem is that if i have too much of that, it disappears. Anyway, thank you all for your input. Seriously, if anyone else has ideas to help I will be a sponge. The kids' wheels turn when they see this played out; I explain to them that it's not behavior they should be striving for. But at 11 and 14 they are somewhat complicit too. 1 Ms skinniness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites