Is dumping forever

[stcyt 6]

Hi all,

I am one month out and im wondering about dumping. So far ive been okay. Ive had peaches and apples with no problem. Im curious about high sugar fruits like bananas and grapes, but im scared to try just yet.

I have had one terrible episode. Truly, i brought it on myself trying to test the waters with worthers candies :-)

My question is... Will this last forever? Its probably for the best right now, but what if 5 years from now i want to have a piece of birthday cake?

[music1618 879]

I eat anything I want 15 months out. I have only truly ever dumped on ice cream. I can now eat ice cream! However with that it is all about personal control. Can I eat it yes - do I choose to eat it - that is the question.

[mamafine23 101]

I have been keeping track with the MFP app to keep track of the sugars .....I have been okay with banana and applesauce ....stay away from milk cause that caused dumping on my 3rd day out of the hospital ... I haven't had dumping since and I'm 7 months out . I have tried 2 bites of cake on my daughters birthday and I was ok;) you'll get there

[music1618 879]

Also keep in mind everyone dumps on different foods. It is not all about the sugars or carbs. Some people have a dip in blood sugar that cause them to dump.

[gc> 50]

I am 10 months out and I still can get the dumping sensation at least once every two weeks. Mixed blessing in that it is a good warning that I am over doing, but the physical aspects are not any fun at all.

[SoccerMomma73 1,867]

Grapes have got me twice...but darn they were good grapes....melon berries, apples, oranges, no problem. Haven't eaten more than a bite of banana because I'm scared of em!!!

HW 312, pre-op (RNY) 255, current weight 198

[karenmartin 170]

I am 5 YEARS out and I still have dumping.

[frankt04 80]

The portion of intestine right after our pouch (stomach) is where sugar is metabolized before hitting the blood, only now it is dumped into the blood without being converted to usable energy.

[stcyt 6]

Thanks guys

My one episode was enough to scare me straight. No sugar from me!!! I may experiment again one of these days.......

[ShineBright724 70]

I have a banana with my ViSalus shake and I have not dumped. I'm almost 4 weeks out. So different things will make you dump. But some have it for years and some never experience it from what I have gathered.

[pear425 32]

Dumping is very different for each individual. Even if something makes you dump once does not mean it will make you dump if you eat that item again. It's not just sweets that may make people dump but also grease or fat. I am almost 9 years out and still have dumping. It is not every time but it can be a toss up. I am just use to it.

[monola 19]

I am Pre-Op and dumping scares me. I have an extremely fast digestion and almost dump every bowel movement as it is. I wonder if I should take liquid Fiber after RNY. Kinda too scared to mention to Dr., afraid he won't operate.

[Jennie_B 6]

Can you guys explain to me the difference between dumping and late dumping? I'm very confused. Thank you!

[stcyt 6]

Can you guys explain to me the difference between dumping and late dumping? I'm very confused. Thank you! <img src='http://www.bariatricpal.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Good question

My one dumping episode was late dumping, meaning it took about 2hrs to set in. Other than time elapsed i dont know the difference. I will be interested to see what people say

[DLCoggin 1,788]

Can you guys explain to me the difference between dumping and late dumping? I'm very confused. Thank you!

There are still some unanswered questions regarding the causes of dumping but it is generally thought to be the result of food being “dumped” too quickly (because the pylorus valve is no longer present) from the pouch into the small intestine. Early dumping usually occurs roughly 30 minutes after eating food high in sugar or simple carbohydrates (aka “simple sugars”). They can create a rapid increase in blood sugars (hyperglycemia). The rule of thumb is that white foods (e.g. potatoes, rice, Pasta, white bread, etc.) are usually simple carbohydrates. The sugars rapidly pull Water out of the bloodstream and into the small intestine. A number of the symptoms of dumping including severe diarrhea can result.

With “late” dumping, the body responds to the rapid rise in blood sugars with an increase in insulin to process the sugars. The increased insulin can cause the blood sugars to “crash” producing low blood sugar (reactive hypoglycemia) and dumping symptoms follow. Symptoms may or may not include vomiting. It is called late dumping because it usually occurs two to three hours after eating but can occur as much as twelve hours later. The delay is partially explained by the time needed for the brain to signal the pancreas to produce more insulin in response to the blood sugar spike. It then takes time for the pancreas to produce the insulin and for the insulin to make its way to the small intestine via the bloodstream. Because the intestine is shorter as a result of the surgery, the partially digested food passes more quickly through the intestine and blood sugar levels may have returned to normal before the insulin reaches the intestine - which is why the blood sugar crashes.

Somewhere between 25% to 50% of patients never experience dumping. It is difficult to determine an accurate number because some folks experience dumping without realizing what it is and others think they are experiencing dumping when the cause of their symptoms may be something else. Of those that do experience dumping, about two-thirds experience early dumping with the remaining one-third experiencing late dumping. Although decidedly unpleasant, dumping is rarely serious.

As you can see from the responses above, dumping may occur for years following surgery and possibly even for life. Or it may subside and even disappear over time as the body makes adjustments to its new physiology.