Sharpie 3,306 Posted October 30, 2013 The race card was pulled throughout his campaigns.. it was all they had.. They had to have a defense against all of the other issues he had... no experience, a 2 year Jr. Senator.. who voted absent throughout his term.. He had no business experience whatsoever,, raised by communist mother and grandparents.. His own minister was and is one of most anti-white people ever... preached hate against whites for 20 years and our President says he didn't know about it.. Seems like after everything that has happned since his election the healthcare law and other things like IRS targeting conservatives, and the list goes on and on ... Some people are waking up.. Sadly if you speak out against anything this President does you are labeled as a racist.. I am sad that we are unable to communicate our concerns about the failed healthcare law without being called names.. You are right Missy anyone who uses that term against anyone who has a different opinion about the ACA and Mr. Obama is a moron... 4 donna12, mrsto, DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisacaron 5,075 Posted October 30, 2013 The race card was pulled throughout his campaigns.. it was all they had.. They had to have a defense against all of the other issues he had... no experience, a 2 year Jr. Senator.. who voted absent throughout his term.. He had no business experience whatsoever,, raised by communist mother and grandparents.. His own minister was and is one of most anti-white people ever... preached hate against whites for 20 years and our President says he didn't know about it.. Seems like after everything that has happned since his election the healthcare law and other things like IRS targeting conservatives, and the list goes on and on ... Some people are waking up.. Sadly if you speak out against anything this President does you are labeled as a racist.. I am sad that we are unable to communicate our concerns about the failed healthcare law without being called names.. You are right Missy anyone who uses that term against anyone who has a different opinion about the ACA and Mr. Obama is a moron... Isn't America wonderful! You have the right to speak your mind and share your thoughts without fear of recrimination. You do not however have the right to disparage or call people names no matter who they are or what group, race, creed or sexual orientation they may identify with. Just because one person shows their ignorance and lowers themselves by making absurd comments doesn't mean you have to do the same lest you identify with the very people you claim to disapprove of. Lets be the adults we are refrain from behaving like 5 year old's on the playground picking on and calling each other names. Thank you 2 JOANNE M HOLL and dawalsh reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisacaron 5,075 Posted October 30, 2013 I know CG still won't eat fish! 2 ☠carolinagirl☠ and KAATNS reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharpie 3,306 Posted October 30, 2013 Lisa it was more than one person who pulled the race card.. and I call it like I see it.. If you are ignorant enough to call me a racists I will call you a moron.. Nobody knows me or my heart.. I don't have to defend how I feel .. believe me I have debated and discussed the so called Affordable Care Act at nauseum.. sick of it and sick of how divided our Country is now... 3 DELETE THIS ACCOUNT!, donna12 and mrsto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrsto 2,925 Posted October 30, 2013 The race card was pulled throughout his campaigns.. it was all they had.. They had to have a defense against all of the other issues he had... no experience, a 2 year Jr. Senator.. who voted absent throughout his term.. He had no business experience whatsoever,, raised by communist mother and grandparents.. His own minister was and is one of most anti-white people ever... preached hate against whites for 20 years and our President says he didn't know about it.. Seems like after everything that has happned since his election the healthcare law and other things like IRS targeting conservatives, and the list goes on and on ... Some people are waking up.. Sadly if you speak out against anything this President does you are labeled as a racist.. I am sad that we are unable to communicate our concerns about the failed healthcare law without being called names.. You are right Missy anyone who uses that term against anyone who has a different opinion about the ACA and Mr. Obama is a moron... Amen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-52 7,113 Posted October 30, 2013 Back on point about Insurance issues....people should be aware of another fact, something that Insurance companies, and notably medicare pulls all the time.... They will say they will approve and cover a procedure...Obamacare boasts about this all the time, a big selling point......BUT actually paying or covering the cost is another thing entirely.... I see it everyday...patients happy that they wee told their insurance will cover/approve something, but the fine print states there is no guarantee they will cover the cost... Medicare will cover all sorts of things, but only pay for the absolute lowest rock bottom, cheapest, inexpensive, a Chinese knock offs (ie; pacemakers, artificial knees, hips) that they can find.... Just be aware...we shall see... 4 DELETE THIS ACCOUNT!, Sharpie, mrsto and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☠carolinagirl☠ 18,721 Posted October 31, 2013 I know CG still won't eat fish! this is funny as he**ll 3 lisacaron, KAATNS and Sharpie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaGottaBand 498 Posted October 31, 2013 Hahaha...... As we say here in SoCal, don'tcha just love them Dodgers! Or as we say in NorCal, don't ya just love them A's :wub: 3 kromi, mrsto and Sharpie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaGottaBand 498 Posted October 31, 2013 I received my open enrollment paperwork yesterday and my premium is doubling. Not for sure if this is due to the Affordable Care Act, because my premium has been going up, up and away for the past several years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SandyM 1,956 Posted October 31, 2013 How about your deductibles and copays? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrsto 2,925 Posted October 31, 2013 I would venture to say that a doubled premium is due to the ACA. Most premiums rise at intervals, but this time around is a huge hit for most. Let the games begin! 1 donna12 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcrosland 48 Posted October 31, 2013 Just food for thought here: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/heres-a-map-of-the-countries-that-provide-universal-health-care-americas-still-not-on-it/259153/ Nearly EVERY developed country has some form of public health care already in place. I'm just sayin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawalsh 919 Posted October 31, 2013 Isn't America wonderful! You have the right to speak your mind and share your thoughts without fear of recrimination. You do not however have the right to disparage or call people names no matter who they are or what group' date=' race, creed or sexual orientation they may identify with. Just because one person shows their ignorance and lowers themselves by making absurd comments doesn't mean you have to do the same lest you identify with the very people you claim to disapprove of. Lets be the adults we are refrain from behaving like 5 year old's on the playground picking on and calling each other names. Thank you[/quote'] Thank you Lisa, so well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawalsh 919 Posted October 31, 2013 Well, my co-pay went from$30 to $42 for specialists. I see my WLS Doctor once a month. I will be paying $12 more per month. I know, it doesn't sound like a lot but $12 a month when you're on a fixed income hurts. That's $144 a year so affordable care act? I don't know. I hope WLS will still be covered. I find this all very scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donna12 742 Posted November 1, 2013 my premium was lowered but my ded. went from 2500.00 to 3500.00, I mean who can reach that for Pete's sake. Yes I reached my ded. this year due to health probs and in/out of hospital and also I will be losing all lap band aftercare with Anthem BCBS KY, they will no longer cover any bariatric surgeries or any aftercare so I will be paying out of pocket for fills from Jan on, sux! I'm not in the green zone yet and I see my surgeon once a month still. When 2014 gets here and all gets into play, I believe everyone will be singing a different tune about ACA/Obamacare. I mean what happened to Pres Obama promising me that I get to keep my ins, NO I DIDNT, Anthem BCBS changed my policy to something totally different and I pray it covers as good as I've got now on prescrips and dr visits. If I wanted governed healthcare I'd live in Canada! 4 mrsto, backpacking5, Sharpie and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites