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Or as we say here in Los Angeles... "Don't ya just love those Dodgers"!

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every one is going to be paying more for insurance premiums, prescriptions and dr visits with the new Obama care. I figured out for my son this year we paid $900 since May for his dr visits and treatments for scleroderma. I used the chart for my insurance next year and the same visits would have cost 2700... I am really worried. I will never be able to afford his healthcare next year.

No, everyone is not!

We have already been told not to expect any major changes in our coverage or our costs due to the ACA, and my employer wouldn't hesitate to pass the increases along.

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No, everyone is not!

We have already been told not to expect any major changes in our coverage or our costs due to the ACA, and my employer wouldn't hesitate to pass the increases along.

Terry you're very fortunate then. Unfortunately, it will be a couple years before "day 1" and the regulations stating private insurance must follow the same guidelines and standards as Obamacare policies- including hefty fines if they don't. The good news is, you'll be grandfathered into your current plan. The bad news is, at "day 1" that you could see your monthly premiums jump dramatically. It really depends on your employer though and I hope they don't have to for your sake.

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Terry you're very fortunate then. Unfortunately, it will be a couple years before "day 1" and the regulations stating private insurance must follow the same guidelines and standards as Obamacare policies- including hefty fines if they don't. The good news is, you'll be grandfathered into your current plan. The bad news is, at "day 1" that you could see your monthly premiums jump dramatically. It really depends on your employer though and I hope they don't have to for your sake.

You may have already gathered this Missy, but we are never going to agree on this subject.

I am a proud supporter of the ACA and it is something that should have been done decades ago. I see a lot of FUD being spread, I'm not concerned. They want to raise my taxes to give health care to the poor? As long as they raise the taxes on the 1% I am good with it. Papa John's wants me to pay .50 more per pizza, so that they can afford to give their employees health care? Go for it, make it .75 cents and give them a better plan.

I have worked hard all my life, and I am willing to part with some of the results of that hard work so that those that are less fortunate than myself have a better life.

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The dims are always taking from the haves and giving to the have nots. Obamacare is no different. Me, you and everyone else with an income will have to subsidize those that can work and won't.

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i still wont eat fish........... :)

You don't know what you are missing gf!

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You may have already gathered this Missy' date=' but we are never going to agree on this subject. I am a proud supporter of the ACA and it is something that should have been done decades ago. I see a lot of FUD being spread, I'm not concerned. They want to raise my taxes to give health care to the poor? As long as they raise the taxes on the 1% I am good with it. Papa John's wants me to pay .50 more per pizza, so that they can afford to give their employees health care? Go for it, make it .75 cents and give them a better plan. I have worked hard all my life, and I am willing to part with some of the results of that hard work so that those that are less fortunate than myself have a better life.[/quote']

I could not have said this better!

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Not really following the goings on of this thread but Australia has universal healthcare and I can categorically say that if our government tried to dismantle it, there would be riots in the streets. Any politician that even BREATHES that they are looking at reducing Medicare coverage is crucified.

No idea what Obamacare is, but I can say that there are in fact countries that have universal healthcare where the people are happy with it. I sit in an income category which requires me to have insurance or I am penalised financially for it, but I had my time where I didn't earn as much and never once had to worry about getting medical care because I couldn't afford it. And my kids, who aren't insured, all hold Medicare cards (same as every other Australian) which provides them essential medical care as soon as they need it. I hope that never changes.

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I also support the ACA. You have the option to keep your employer insurance or go to the market place and replace it with another if you don't like yours. My insurance premiums have not gone up for this next year and we just completed open enrollment. Why shouldn't people have the opportunity to have health insurance. If you have it why shouldn't others. Like I said before I am tired of my property taxes going to local hospitals to the tune of 400.00 x how many homeowners live in Duval County for people who are uninsured to get their bills paid or for those who run to the ER for a broken finger nail and don't pay their bill. If you don't like what it represents and you choose not to get it then you cant blame others for wanting what they deserve to have. I have family members who had no insurance and also friends and they were happy to get affordable insurance now and be covered. So my kids should go without insurance because some of you don't approve. Well too bad because they deserves to have insurance. You want to cry because premiums and copays are going up well it has nothing to do with the ACA its insurance companies doing what they want. Its a business and every business raises prices every year. My son is covered and I am happy.

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I also support the ACA. You have the option to keep your employer insurance or go to the market place and replace it with another if you don't like yours. My insurance premiums have not gone up for this next year and we just completed open enrollment. Why shouldn't people have the opportunity to have health insurance. If you have it why shouldn't others. Like I said before I am tired of my property taxes going to local hospitals to the tune of 400.00 x how many homeowners live in Duval County for people who are uninsured to get their bills paid or for those who run to the ER for a broken finger nail and don't pay their bill. If you don't like what it represents and you choose not to get it then you cant blame others for wanting what they deserve to have. I have family members who had no insurance and also friends and they were happy to get affordable insurance now and be covered. So my kids should go without insurance because some of you don't approve. Well too bad because they deserves to have insurance. You want to cry because premiums and copays are going up well it has nothing to do with the ACA its insurance companies doing what they want. Its a business and every business raises prices every year. My son is covered and I am happy.

I'm sorry but you are 100% wrong. It is because of Obamacare the insurance premiums are going up. Though it states you can keep your current insurance, many employers are changing their policies regardless because it's too expensive for them not to. This hasn't happened to everyone but it is happening to many.

North Carolinians Shocked By The Size Of Insurance Premium Increases Caused By Obamacare

Double Down: Obamacare Will Increase Avg. Individual-Market Insurance Premiums By 99% For Men, 62% For Women

Obamacare Health Insurance Premium Increases Stun Californians

And if you really want the truth, do what I did and read all 1000+ pages of the actual Obamacare bill.

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Well since I live in the state of Romney. Massachusetts. I see what a job he did. An yes the New Healthcare plan is based off of some articles as the Romney care.

Whether right or wrong people deserve healthcare.

Why can other countries offer it free an clear but not here. Hmmm?

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The dims are always taking from the haves and giving to the have nots. Obamacare is no different. Me, you and everyone else with an income will have to subsidize those that can work and won't.

I'm all for helping the poor get back on their feet. And I understand that there are some that will never get back on their feet. What I'm TOTALLY against, is the government continuing to enable those sucking off the system, that are perfectly capable of working. Yes, there are those who need government assistance. But there are way too many lazy ass people that think flipping burgers at Jack, or making coffee at Starbucks, is beneath them.

I was completely idealistic in my hippy days, but the harsh realities of life snapped me out of "the dream". I work my ass off, and pay into a system that TOO many able bodied people live off of. Am I angry? You bet!

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I'm all for helping the poor get back on their feet. And I understand that there are some that will never get back on their feet. What I'm TOTALLY against, is the government continuing to enable those sucking off the system, that are perfectly capable of working. Yes, there are those who need government assistance. But there are way too many lazy ass people that think flipping burgers at Jack, or making coffee at Starbucks, is beneath them.

I was completely idealistic in my hippy days, but the harsh realities of life snapped me out of "the dream". I work my ass off and pay into a system, that TOO many able bodied people live off of. Am I angry? You bet!

Generally, I am for helping the disabled, elderly and the children. Able bodied people should only be allowed to draw any sort of financial assistance for a short period of time. And they should have to work for it. Every road were I live is covered lined with litter. That would be a good place for the non working to start earning their handouts.

But to get back on topic.................. The gov has NO BUSINESS in providing health care for the masses. The gov can't run anything correctly and I don't want them involved with the nations healthcare. Healthcare is not a constitutional right. It is something the individual takes care of on his own. The U.S. gov can't keep it's fricking paws out of anything. They want total control of the people. And I sure as hell am tired of supporting people I don't even know or care anything about!!!!!!!

Okay, I will calm down now..................... petting the dog............. relaxing.......

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Generally, I am for helping the disabled, elderly and the children. Able bodied people should only be allowed to draw any sort of financial assistance for a short period of time. And they should have to work for it. Every road were I live is covered lined with litter. That would be a good place for the non working to start earning their handouts.

But to get back on topic.................. The gov has NO BUSINESS in providing health care for the masses. The gov can't run anything correctly and I don't want them involved with the nations healthcare. Healthcare is not a constitutional right. It is something the individual takes care of on his own. The U.S. gov can't keep it's fricking paws out of anything. They want total control of the people. And I sure as hell am tired of supporting people I don't even know or care anything about!!!!!!!

Okay, I will calm down now..................... petting the dog............. relaxing.......

my dog is laying at my feet and i am rubbing his head...it is true, petting a dog will relax you

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my dog is laying at my feet and i am rubbing his head...it is true, petting a dog will relax you

Yep, love my little girl...... Petting & hugging her centers me when I'm spinning out of control.

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