Fiddleman 4,376 Posted October 25, 2013 Try increasing magnesium, as mentioned by others, to improve sleep and many other ailments triggered by magnesium deficiency. I found this a good read (not academic, but still is based on some studies) http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/peak32.htm The article targets magnesium deficiencies as it applies to athletes, but there is also general information for everyone. From the article: Eating Habits Associated With Low Magnesium Intake You tend to eat white flour products instead of wholemeal You have a low intake of green leafy vegetables You don't eat much in the way of nuts and seeds or Beans and lentils You regularly consume sugar or sugary products You drink alcohol regularly You follow a calorie-restricted or high-Protein, low-carbohydrate diet Possible Symptoms Of Sub-Optimal Magnesium Intake Muscle cramps, twitches or tremors Regular or excessive fatigue Feelings of irritability and/or lethargy Frequent mood swings, including depression Pre-menstrual bloating Restless legs at night We generally have an issue with the last eating habit by nature of being a VSG post op. We eat low calorie diets, high Protein and low carb diets. My daily protein consumption tends to be above average to support athletic activities. I identify with item 2, 3 and 6 from the eating habit list. The magnesium supplement I am trying is called Natural Calm: http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Vitality-Calm-Raspberry-Lemon/dp/B00BPUY3W0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382710890&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+calm The recommendation is to take 2 tsp (325 mg) daily. Others have mentioned they take 1 tsp in the morning and 1 tsp in the evening. This is consistent with the the body being able to absorb 100-150 mg most efficiently in a single dose. Took it last night for the first time and noticed I woke at 6:30 am, feeling refreshed, after going to bed at 10:30pm. I still use the melatonin to fall asleep, but the increase in magnesium ions in the body will promote a restful sleep. After all this research I have done (sleep is important to me for many reasons!!), it is now clear why I started having sleep issues when increasing protein and working out hard month 5 (now month 15). You can look into increasing magnesium if you like, but as for me, It certainly makes sense. Really helps with Constipation if you struggle with that. There are so many ailments that are fixed when the magnesium levels are sufficient in the body. I will let you know how this goes in 1 month. 1 Sweet Pee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Pee 349 Posted October 25, 2013 I stopped taking my Mg, which my Dr had recommended. I need to start back. THANKS!!! 1 Fiddleman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted October 25, 2013 I stopped taking my Mg' date=' which my Dr had recommended. I need to start back. THANKS!!![/quote'] You are welcome! I hope this information helps many. It certainly connected the dots for me with regards to poor sleep, Constipation, lethargy, high intensity exercise, high Protein, low carb, high Calcium and magnesium deficiency. Normally the recommended 1500 mg Calcium wouldn't be a problem, but when combined with all those other dietary factors, the ratio between calcium and magnesium gets off. 1 Sweet Pee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted October 26, 2013 Two days in a row of good sleep using Natural Calm. I feel quietedly alert when waking. Well rested. You never know how truly uninspiring your sleep is until you have nights of good sleep. Drinking like a horse every day still wakes me up at night, but I am able to quickly fall asleep again after returning to bed. If you have not read the need to balance out Calcium and magnesium levels, you might want to do a little research. Our diets can lead to an imbalance for the many reasons listed above. 2 Sweet Pee and gamergirl reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Pee 349 Posted October 26, 2013 Two days in a row of good sleep using Natural Calm. I feel quietedly alert when waking. Well rested. You never know how truly uninspiring your sleep is until you have nights of good sleep. Drinking like a horse every day still wakes me up at night' date=' but I am able to quickly fall asleep again after returning to bed. If you have not read the need to balance out Calcium and magnesium levels, you might want to do a little research. Our diets can lead to an imbalance for the many reasons listed above.[/quote'] That is great! Pleasant dreams can be invigorating the next day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted October 29, 2013 Ok - said I would wait one month, but I am happy to report that since the last post, I have slept very well. I feel much better. My muscles do not ache any longer, are not so tightly wound and my overall sense of well being has improved. If you have trouble sleeping and/or have maladies associated with magnesium deficiencies, do check out this product Natural Calm and read the online reviews about it. I think the working out intensely as a post op combined with a diet low in magnesium has led to my deficiency. Multivitamins and/ or fitness Water just do not have enough DV to make up for it so I am glad Natural Calm has helped out. 3 andryah, Sweet Pee and gamergirl reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Pee 349 Posted October 29, 2013 Ok - said I would wait one month' date=' but I am happy to report that since the last post, I have slept very well. I feel much better. My muscles do not ache any longer, are not so tightly wound and my overall sense of well being has improved. If you have trouble sleeping and/or have maladies associated with magnesium deficiencies, do check out this product Natural Calm and read the online reviews about it. I think the working out intensely as a post op combined with a diet low in magnesium has led to my deficiency. Multivitamins and/ or fitness Water just do not have enough DV to make up for it so I am glad Natural Calm has helped out.[/quote'] I am happy that you are having pleasant dreams. I know you feel so much better. Thank you for sharing this information. Since you posted about Mg, I have started taking mine again, and have been sleeping until the alarm goes off at 5:30am, unless nature calls at 5:00am. Thanks again!!!!!!!!! 1 Fiddleman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andryah 7 Posted October 31, 2013 I am no MD..,, have you tried having a beer or a glass of wine?( not saying you should get drunk) might help relax from the crazy day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andryah 7 Posted October 31, 2013 Never mind- you found your cure! Congrats! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted October 31, 2013 Still working. 1 Sweet Pee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Pee 349 Posted November 2, 2013 Still working. Super! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betty2111 0 Posted December 25, 2016 As my personal experience, when having sleep problem. I often choose lemongrass tea as my favorite treatment. You may not know that one of the most outstanding benefits of lemongrass is to cure insomnia. In fact, lemongrass can provide instant calming effects on muscles. Therefore, it may induce deep sleep naturally. Moreover, the mixture of sedative and hypnotic qualities in lemongrass will improve sleep duration and quality. It is very effective so drinking a cup of lemongrass tea may be a good choice. Source: https://wikihomenutrition.com/lemongrass-health-benefits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites