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[green 6]

I'll say it again, I've never felt attacked here because of my beliefs.

And thanks for your words earlier Green.

Aw shucks, tweren't nothing, and it came from my heart.:rose:

[TamifromAL 1]

Not surprising! There are may in the pulpit that claim knowledge of the scriptures, but are spiritually blind. There is a big difference between having a head knowledge and having spiritual understanding.

Ahh, so it comes back to "feelings".

Tami

[lisah25 3]

You keep stating that I have all the wrong facts about why people believe as the do when they are an athiest. So then put me streight and tell me what the real facts are.

More then one person has told you. You've dismissed them with "I've never seen an Athiest like that". I think you have it backwards, you've decided what an Athiest is, and then cram everyone into that box.

I’m sorry, but you remind me of too many Christians I know. Who stir things up, then act innocent and persecuted when they get a reaction. Confusing reaction to them and how they present things with what is in fact being presented.

It’s not your Christianity, IMHO, that is under discussion here. It’s your coming onto a site that is mainly a site about Lap-Banding that does have threads on other topic. And your first thread has nothing to do with Lap-Banding. You then question someone about their nickname, and in pretty short order are saying that you don’t believe she really knows what she believes or why she believes it. That is what you are getting reactions to. Not being a Christian.

[Ron Cusano 0]

It's not illogical at all! Those who are spiritually blind cannot have spiritual incite and understanding. If you know the scriptures as you claim , then you should be familiar with -

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:for they are foolishness unto him:neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Who is to say who is spiritually blind and who are not??? The Bible does !!

This is an illogical statement. Who is to say who are spiritually blind and who are not?

[Wheetsin 714]

Of course they are attacks! Don't be silly! And as a moderator, you should be above that. You advertise that you are an athiest, but get spastic when someone else dare's to talk about their religious views. That moniker if there to incite debate or it would not be there. Can you at least own up to that??

I'm silly. Ok. That title is not there to incite debate. It has been there for, as I said earlier, maybe 2 years -- and has not yet incited a debate. Not until you, anyway. If my goal was debate, and my title was the my means, I would have changed it to something else long ago, as unsuccessful as it has been.

got all bent out of shape.

Far from bent out of shape. I'm train wreck amused. As I said, if this is "bent out of shape" to you, wowzer!

Darling,

Don't patronize me. You'd get a lot farther with your "debating", a lot quicker, if you'd show some respect.

I have been in messianic minsitry for 30 years! If you think I have had a passive life, you are not dealing in reality.

Oh, then you KNOW that nothing that has happened here has been a "viscous attack". My bad.

You keep stating that I have all the wrong facts about why people believe as the do when they are an athiest. So then put me streight and tell me what the real facts are.

But you've already said you're "right". And it's not my obligation to "put you straight", nor could it happen, per your own admission. You can't put "right" straight.

Me smell troll. More and more.

[Wheetsin 714]

Aw shucks, tweren't nothing, and it came from my heart.:rose:

Aww, you guys are making me wanna blush.

And lisa, FWIW, I agree with Green. And agree with all she named. You are a wonderful breath of fresh air.

[lisah25 3]

Aww, you guys are making me wanna blush. :rose:

And lisa, FWIW, I agree with Green. And agree with all she named. You are a wonderful breath of fresh air.

Thanks to you too!

See, we can get along even when I'm right and you are wrong... :heh:

Seriously, it's much more interesting when we don't all agree. We don't have to in order to understand each other.

[Wheetsin 714]

Seriously, it's much more interesting when we don't all agree. We don't have to in order to understand each other.

I have always said - the world would indeed be a very boring place if everyone believed the same thing.

[Ron Cusano 0]

If you smell Troll, perhaps you need deodorant!!

Do you have the capacity to at least be honest?? Yesterday you told me that your moniker has been the subject on many debates and everything that could be discussed about it has beed discussed - or something to that effect. Today you say that it "has not yet incited a debate" in 2-years. So were you wrong yesterday or today??

Patronize you! Sweetheart, judging from your pic, I am old enough to be your father, and respect comes form receiving respect. You have a lot to learn.

You tell me I have all the facts wrong, but come up with all these lame reasons whay you don't want to give me the "real" facts! It appears that you just like to make comments and say nothing.

Regarding attacks! For some reason this thread seems to attract a large number of athiests, many of whom have jumped into the arena to take their shots at my posts. I have no problem with that and feel confident enough in what I believe to substanciate what I believe. Attack away!

I'm silly. Ok. That title is not there to incite debate. It has been there for, as I said earlier, maybe 2 years -- and has not yet incited a debate. If my goal was debate, and my title was the my means, I would have changed it to something else long ago, as unsuccessful as it has been.

Far from bent out of shape. I'm train wreck amused. As I said, if this is "bent out of shape" to you, wowzer!

Don't patronize me. You'd get a lot farther with your "debating", a lot quicker, if you'd show some respect.

Oh, then you KNOW that nothing that has happened here has been a "viscous attack". My bad.

But you've already said you're "right". And it's not my obligation to "put you straight", nor could it happen, per your own admission. You can't put "right" straight.

Me smell troll. More and more.

[lisah25 3]

It's quite simple! For instance, Bible History is a popular course taught in many secular colleges. One can come away from that course with a historical knowledge and still know little about the spiritual and prophetic nature of the scriptures.

Ron, I have a question for you, and it’s not meant as an attack. You’ve said that you believe as you do because the Bible is provable. I think you used the term “proven Faith”. Ok, I can see how the historical facts in the Bible can be provable. But how can the Spiritual things be proven?

[anonemouse 1]

I’m sorry, but you remind me of too many Christians I know. Who stir things up, then act innocent and persecuted when they get a reaction. Confusing reaction to them and how they present things with what is in fact being presented.

It’s not your Christianity, IMHO, that is under discussion here. It’s your coming onto a site that is mainly a site about Lap-Banding that does have threads on other topic. And your first thread has nothing to do with Lap-Banding. You then question someone about their nickname, and in pretty short order are saying that you don’t believe she really knows what she believes or why she believes it. That is what you are getting reactions to. Not being a Christian.

I am bowing to your wisdom! You have no idea how relieving it is to hear (see?) someone say that. A lot of people see Atheists protesting someone's remarks and are all, "Look, the Atheists are attacking the Christians! You're anti-Christian!" They don't seem to realize that most Atheists don't go around verbally attacking Christians willy-nilly for thrills. There is usually a valid reason we are protesting something.

[anonemouse 1]

Sweetheart, judging from your pic, I am old enough to be your father, and respect comes form receiving respect. You have a lot to learn.

It seems like YOU are the one with some things to learn, actually, if you believe someone would treat you with respect when you all but called her an uneducated heathen.

[anonemouse 1]

I have no problem with that and feel confident enough in what I believe to substanciate what I believe.

But you haven't! All you have done is criticize other's beliefs and say that, "Well, I've done my research!"

[lisah25 3]

I am bowing to your wisdom! You have no idea how relieving it is to hear (see?) someone say that. A lot of people see Atheists protesting someone's remarks and are all, "Look, the Atheists are attacking the Christians! You're anti-Christian!" They don't seem to realize that most Atheists don't go around verbally attacking Christians willy-nilly for thrills. There is usually a valid reason we are protesting something.

Thank you.

I've seen it before. Where someone claims it's their faith being attacked when it's not. It's their actions. Often they want special treatment, and when it's not provided claim it's because of that faith.

[Wheetsin 714]

If you smell Troll, perhaps you need deodorant!! I've not been a troll yet, I doubt anything has changed in the last day. There's only one new variable here. But you're "right". I must be the troll, jsut because you say so. Do you have the capacity to at least be honest?? Yes Yesterday you told me that your moniker has been the subject on many debates and everything that could be discussed about it has beed discussed - or something to that effect. No, that's not at all what I said. But since you're "right", let me quote:

I have no problems discussing it. It's been pretty much discussed into the ground during the last two years here, I'm not sure I can say anything I haven't already said.

The context of that statement being how I "came to be" an atheist. Perhaps to you discussion = debate. Perhaps to you "atheism" = my title. The religion topic usually comes on at the tail end of something else. If you'd done anything here other than troll around, you'd know that. A single search would tell you that. Atheism, in my time here, has never been a topic in and of itself. If my title had incited debates, that would certainly not be the case. And the discussions have never been a result of my title. Today you say that it "has not yet incited a debate" in 2-years. So were you wrong yesterday or today?? See above. But in order for you to be "right" I guess I have to be "wrong", so take your pick. Makes no difference to me.

Patronize you! Sweetheart, judging from your pic, I am old enough to be your father, and respect comes form receiving respect. You have a lot to learn. You're older than me. That does not make it aprpopriate for you to refer to me as "Darling".

You tell me I have all the facts wrong, but come up with all these lame reasons whay you don't want to give me the "real" facts! It appears that you just like to make comments and say nothing. As do you. You're "right" and you can't set "right" straight. And I never claimed to have "facts". I've claimed to have opinions and perspectives. I'll be one of the first to emphatically state that my beliefs are not fact. Regarding attacks! For some reason this thread seems to attract a large number of athiests, many of whom have jumped into the arena to take their shots at my posts. A large number... like 3. hey did not do this out of the blue. Again, you know that as well as I do. You did not innocently come here and innocently question. Your first post makes it clear you're here with an agenda. Why am I not surprised that you're now pleading innocence. You can't expect to attack (and by attack I mean insinuate it's an uneducated decision, as in "Atheist? Have you done your homework?" -- for starters) a belief and not have it defended by the people who hold it. Would you question or ridicule any other minority and be surprised if others of that minority chose to get involved? I have no problem with that and feel confident enough in what I believe to substanciate what I believe. Attack away!

Comments included in quotes for the sake of cohesion.