Anti-Semitism In France!

[Tired_Old_Man 1]

But I do have an honest comment, which could be interpreted as a question as well. I believe people come to faith in Jesus through other people all the time. So I'm not sure if "through" means "through reading", or "through analzying", or what. Do you believe that everyone out there who would answer "Yes!" to the question, "Do you have faith in Jesus" has read the bible?

TOM dies and goes up to Heaven. He is let into Heaven by St. Peter and is given a special interview with Jesus.

"How did you come to know me and why did you worship me?"

TOM answers and Jesus says, "That is not a good enough reason to worship and love me. You should have listened to Ron. Didn't you know he spoke for me? He was the only man in the 21st century to understand my requirements. I can not have you people loving me and espousing my philosphies, unless you come to the understanding that Ron is the strong arm of Heaven."

"But I tried to..."

"Not good enough. Hey Ron, escort this worthless soul to the elevator and press the down botton."

[Wheetsin 714]

"Not good enough. Hey Ron, escort this worthless soul to the elevator and press the down botton."

You can hang out with me, Green, Laurend, BJean, Lisa25, Carlene, and anyone else I'm failing to mention.

[GregNE 0]

I came upon this post yesterday, and thought it was just another incarnation of an urban myth (anti-Semitism in France). I am sure there is Anti-Semitism in France, as there is everywhere. There is also anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-black, anti-fat, and a host of other hatreds.

The irony, however, is that the person that posted the alarmist alert that started this thread is a known Anti-Semite. If Ron Cusano had his way, the Jewish faith would be eradicated. It does not get any more Anti-Semitic than that.

He is part of a religious movement aimed at converting Jewish people to a twisted version of Christianity. Such groups, referred to as messianic movements, use traditional Jewish symbols, holidays, and imagery, as well as other deceptive practices, to coerce vulnerable Jews into joining 'home bible studies'.

They do not worship or 'study' in churches, but rather in homes, to maintain the deception that they are not practicing Christianity. Torah Atlanta Rabbi Efraim Davidson, in describing these movements, stated that "their techniques are manipulative, deceptive and anti-Semitic."

This practice of deceptive conversion is opposed by many Christian denominations, including the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the United Church of Christ and the Presbyterian Church USA. Pope John Paul II also said Jews shouldn't be targeted for conversion.

Even the most famous evangelical of all, Billy Graham, said he believes it is not appropriate to convert Jews (or Muslims), directly opposing the position of his own denomination, The Southern Baptist Church, which fully supports and funds these deceitful movements.

I have no problem with Mr. Cusano's religious conviction, and I know he believes he is doing his Christian duty. I also believe any person can choose to follow the religion they desire (or lack thereof). I do, however, have a problem with his methods and approach.

Expressing his disgust with Anti-Semitism, while openly practicing Anti-Semitism himself, is quite a deception.

[Devana 0]

The books of The Gospel of Thomas? The Gospel of Enoch are not canon because the theologians did not consider them inspired, accurate or to have spiritual authority.

Now I'm confused. MEN decided what was inspired, accurate or spiritually authoritative enough to be included in the bible as we know it?? What if they were having a bad day or something.

[Ron Cusano 0]

Huh! Yeah Dude, Lucifer and Satan are one in the same!

And yes, you are clueless!

Yo, dude, slow down and try to read actual English here for a sec.

1) Lucifer and Satan are not the same entity. I thought you said you were trained in Christianity or something. If you are, you should know that.

2) Did I SAY you were lying? I guess I should SPEAK VERY SLOWLY... In the PARTS I READ, it wasn't there. I asked honestly, you provided. I look forward to reading the actual passages.

3) I know exactly what I'm talking about. If you're clueless, there's nothing I can do about that.

[Ron Cusano 0]

Greg,

You have no idea what you are talking about! The messianiac movement, including Jews for Jesus are made up almost entirely of Jews who nelieve that Jesus was the Messiah of Israel. There is nothing more natural that a Jew accepting his own messiah. Of course Jews who have not accepted Jesus are opposed to it, just as the were when Jesus walked the earth. Are you remotely aware that the frist century church was almost entirely Jewish?? This is nothing new.

Tis is nothing perverted ot twisted about it. You are entirely clueless and has no idea what you are talking about. Those are about the stupidest statement I have seen on this thread!

If you want to know more go to my ministry website at www.shiloh-ministries.org

I came upon this post yesterday, and thought it was just another incarnation of an urban myth (anti-Semitism in France). I am sure there is Anti-Semitism in France, as there is everywhere. There is also anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-black, anti-fat, and a host of other hatreds.

The irony, however, is that the person that posted the alarmist alert that started this thread is a known Anti-Semite. If Ron Cusano had his way, the Jewish faith would be eradicated. It does not get any more Anti-Semitic than that.

He is part of a religious movement aimed at converting Jewish people to a twisted version of Christianity. Such groups, referred to as messianic movements, use traditional Jewish symbols, holidays, and imagery, as well as other deceptive practices, to coerce vulnerable Jews into joining 'home bible studies'.

They do not worship or 'study' in churches, but rather in homes, to maintain the deception that they are not practicing Christianity. Torah Atlanta Rabbi Efraim Davidson, in describing these movements, stated that "their techniques are manipulative, deceptive and anti-Semitic."

This practice of deceptive conversion is opposed by many Christian denominations, including the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the United Church of Christ and the Presbyterian Church USA. Pope John Paul II also said Jews shouldn't be targeted for conversion.

Even the most famous evangelical of all, Billy Graham, said he believes it is not appropriate to convert Jews (or Muslims), directly opposing the position of his own denomination, The Southern Baptist Church, which fully supports and funds these deceitful movements.

I have no problem with Mr. Cusano's religious conviction, and I know he believes he is doing his Christian duty. I also believe any person can choose to follow the religion they desire (or lack thereof). I do, however, have a problem with his methods and approach.

Expressing his disgust with Anti-Semitism, while openly practicing Anti-Semitism himself, is quite a deception.

[Ron Cusano 0]

What in the world does that quote have to do with your communion practice?? Have you not heard of the "sacrifice of the mass??????? How can you say you don't sacrifice Crrist at your mass???

We do not sacrifice Christ during the Mass. We partake of His body and blood, per his command.

By the way....here is the New King James version of First Corinthians 11:33-34

</SPAN> Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. 34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, lest you come together for judgment. And the rest I will set in order when I come.

[Ron Cusano 0]

How do you know this??

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, also God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. I believe that Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried. I believe he arose from the dead and ascended into heaven.

[Wheetsin 714]

Those are about the stupidest statement I have seen on this thread!

I don't know... "stupidest" has to be - at least - a runner up.

Yes, that's tongue in cheek.

[Ron Cusano 0]

What about it? That was certainly true during that time period. IOn fact that tradition is even practiced in your own church!

Would a different example be more to your liking? I'm just quoting the Bible - the one that you say is to be taken literally.

How about this one?

But every woman who prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

[GregNE 0]

Huh! Yeah Dude, Lucifer and Satan are one in the same!

And yes, you are clueless!

Actually, it was St. Jerome (347-420) that gave Satan the proper name of Lucifer in his writings. Other church fathers did not agree that Lucifer was the name of the Devil.

[Ron Cusano 0]

Then I guess someone forgot to tell the prophet Isaiah 14:14 about 600 years before you St. Jerome!! Where do you get this rubbish?

Actually, it was St. Jerome (347-420) that gave Satan the proper name of Lucifer in his writings. Other church fathers did not agree that Lucifer was the name of the Devil.

[GregNE 0]

Greg,

You have no idea what you are talking about! The messianiac movement, including Jews for Jesus are made up almost entirely of Jews who nelieve that Jesus was the Messiah of Israel. There is nothing more natural that a Jew accepting his own messiah. Of course Jews who have not accepted Jesus are opposed to it, just as the were when Jesus walked the earth. Are you remotely aware that the frist century church was almost entirely Jewish?? This is nothing new.

Tis is nothing perverted ot twisted about it. You are entirely clueless and has no idea what you are talking about. Those are about the stupidest statement I have seen on this thread!

If you want to know more go to my ministry website at www.shiloh-ministries.org

Actually, Jews for Jesus has a membership that is about 80% Gentile.

And a Jew that believes that Jesus was their Messiah, is not a Jew, but a Christian.

[Ron Cusano 0]

Not quite true! I reject evolution because I believe the biblicial account of creation, and the scientific findings I have heard substansciate it, but are not the main reason I reject it.

It's very similar to what a lot of people feel about evolution. For example, Ron basically said that he knows nothing about evolution, but he believes that it doesn't happen because some scientists have said that it doesn't. If people can feel that way about evolution, they can feel that way about religion. They believe something because it sounds good and other people tell them that they should believe it, not because they actually know anything about it.

[Ron Cusano 0]

Two absolute lies. Not just mistakes, outright lies. I work habd in hand with Jews for Jesus and I know first hand who they are. And and Jew is a Jew no matter what he believes. If your a Jew and you believe NOTHING, are you any less a Jew. If you are a Jew and an athiest are you not still a Jew? A Jew that believes in Jesus is a completed Jew, but a Jew nevertheless. If you mean the are a Christian because they follow Christ, correct, but they are still a Jew. I have never seen such misinformation come out of anyone who obviously know nothing about what they are talking about.

Actually, Jews for Jesus has a membership that is about 80% Gentile.

And a Jew that believes that Jesus was their Messiah, is not a Jew, but a Christian.