Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 16, 2007 I told you I had no idea of the accuracy of their information. I was just pointing out that there are other statistics out there that say otherwise. Listen, a lot of the references used on this thread come for very Liberal left-wing nuts that don't have an unbiased viewpoint either. Have you discounted those too? Ron, have you researched the organizations behind those sites? The fact that you are using them to dignify your "opinion" has solidified your bigotry, IMO. You should maybe look for better sources than a racist organization and a bunch of racist crackpots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted February 16, 2007 I just viewed the site for the first time. It contains stats for homicides only, but assuming that the same ratio is also comparable to all violent crime, that my assumption was wrong and I stand corrected. This is what I have been asking for all along and I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. I never saw this link before.Thank you. That's all we've been asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green 6 Posted February 16, 2007 I just viewed the site for the first time. It contains stats for homicides only, but assuming that the same ratio is also comparable to all violent crime, that my assumption was wrong and I stand corrected. This is what I have been asking for all along and I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. I never saw this link before. Well, that's okay. So now you are a cool kitty and that is a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted February 16, 2007 Listen, a lot of the references used on this thread come for very Liberal left-wing nuts that don't have an unbiased viewpoint either. Have you discounted those too?I do when they aren't even defendable. There is a difference between "biased" and outright "racist". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ousooner 1 Posted February 16, 2007 Ron, have you researched the organizations behind those sites? The fact that you are using them to dignify your "opinion" has solidified your bigotry, IMO. You should maybe look for better sources than a racist organization and a bunch of racist crackpots. From "Ending the Race Crisis in the 21st Century" on http://ourcivilisation.com/usa/. Disgusting. Agreed. That site is very racist. talking about race wars and comparing other races and cultures as parasites. That is scary stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Then maybe it's me! I just can't comprehend how you could consider something to be sin, and abomination and spoken against in scripture, and condone it for others and not speak out about it!! Your position that "two consenting adults can choose to live an abominal lifestyle, and it doesn't effect society" just doesn't make any sense to me. If you remember your scriptures, you will recall that this was the very lifestyle that cause the downfall of Sodom. Do you think homosexuality had a bad effect on that society?? Ron - I am not trying to be argumentative. I don't beleive I have ever comprimised my faith. Never have I stated anything less than my beleifs and have not been swayed by others who have a different beleif. I am not ashamed of my faith or back down from it. There is difference between sharing your faith and getting in people's faces and demanding they believe as you do. That's the difference in us. Sharing is just that. Its letting people know what you beleive in and why. Its not about getting upset if others don't agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ousooner 1 Posted February 16, 2007 Ron, I am not going to argue. I don't mind a debate, just flat out being argumentative is not my style. Just as I did with other discussions with others, we can agree to disagree. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 16, 2007 I am not trying to be argumentative either, I am just trying to understand your mindset. Coming from someone with your foundational beliefs, I find them hard to comprehend. Maybe we should con tinue this discussion by private eMail. Ron, I am not going to argue. I don't mind a debate, just flat out being argumentative is not my style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ousooner 1 Posted February 16, 2007 I am not trying to be argumentative either, I am just trying to understand your mindset. Coming from someone with your foundational beliefs, I find them hard to comprehend. Maybe we should con tinue this discussion by private eMail. I would rather not do private e-mail. Let me just say this. As you have stated before, God gives us free will. I am steadfast in my belief about the subject, but if someone chooses not to agree, I can't force that upon them. We all answer for our actions before God. Myself included and I am very secure in my judgement. That should be enough. Sorry if that's not "Christian" enough for you, but as I said, I am ok with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 16, 2007 No problem then! We can agree to disagree! Just let me ask you one question. If it came down to a vote weather or not to allow gay marriage, how would you vote? I would rather not do private e-mail. Let me just say this. As you have stated before, God gives us free will. I am steadfast in my belief about the subject, but if someone chooses not to agree, I can't force that upon them. We all answer for our actions before God. Myself included and I am very secure in my judgement. That should be enough. Sorry if that's not "Christian" enough for you, but as I said, I am ok with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheetsin 714 Posted February 16, 2007 when you are debating some who are athiests, ultra left wing liberals and hate Christianity and God. You just don't get it. Come on Ron Cusano, way back when you started here you were so educational about the difference between atheists and agnostics. Don't you remember your own teachings? Atheists don't believe god exists. You can't hate something you don't believe exists. You can't hate basket weaving abominations with celerey where their hand should be, and Patrick Duffy for a leg. Because they don't exist. So let's see... you're still going to be right somehow. But I'm curious to see how. How is it that people who do not believe god exists, also hate god, that doesn't exist? a lot of the references used on this thread come for very Liberal left-wing nuts that don't have an unbiased viewpoint either.So now we're nuts? Oh, no, you're not biased or judgemental, you're just stating your opinion, right? And no, I'm not claiming you siad "you're not biased or judgemental, you're just stating your opinion, right?" But I think the idea is there. How is it we're nuts, and you aren't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ousooner 1 Posted February 16, 2007 No problem then! We can agree to disagree! Just let me ask you one question. If it came down to a vote weather or not to allow gay marriage, how would you vote? This may the the chicken way out, but I would probably abstain from the vote. I don't condone it, but its not my job to condemn it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheetsin 714 Posted February 16, 2007 This may the the chicken way out, but I would probably abstain from the vote. I don't condone it, but its not my job to condemn it either.IMO, nothing chicken about that. It's admirable, and a demonstration of sticking up for your beliefs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Your nit-picking is so childish it make for a good laugh! So let's just say "hate's Christians and what they believe"! Does that make you feel better?? You just don't get it. Come on Ron Cusano, way back when you started here you were so educational about the difference between atheists and agnostics. Don't you remember your own teachings? Atheists don't believe god exists. You can't hate something you don't believe exists. You can't hate basket weaving abominations with celerey where their hand should be, and Patrick Duffy for a leg. Because they don't exist. So let's see... you're still going to be right somehow. But I'm curious to see how. How is it that people who do not believe god exists, also hate god, that doesn't exist? So now we're nuts? Oh, no, you're not biased or judgemental, you're just stating your opinion, right? And no, I'm not claiming you siad "you're not biased or judgemental, you're just stating your opinion, right?" But I think the idea is there. How is it we're nuts, and you aren't? Because from my perspective, your ultra-liberal beliefs are out in left field! I believe that most the ultra-liberal ideals and principalsa are wayyyyyy out there! Yeah, nuts is a good word! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Cusano 0 Posted February 17, 2007 I'm not suprised! That is exactly the type of compromising the faith I was talking about. And of course, your athiest, liberal friends here will agree with your choice! This may the the chicken way out, but I would probably abstain from the vote. I don't condone it, but its not my job to condemn it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
