Anti-Semitism In France!

[gadgetlady 4]

:pound: :pound: LOL, what's another slap in the scheme of things huh? lol..This whole thread is really hilarious and cheap entertainment. Almost like the 3 stooges.. Turn the other cheek, girlfriend. Take another hit for the Christian Fundamentalist terrorist faction. oyvey..:rambo :rambo :rambo

leatha_g, have I said lately that I love your posts? Because I do. I had no intention of commenting other than the emoticons. I think the statement speaks for itself.

[leatha_g 4]

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[gadgetlady 4]

I love how Fox News calls them homicide bombings. Which really is much more accurate. I never knew they weren't considered a Crime Against Humanity or a War Crime. Darned sure should be.

[anonemouse 1]

I never knew they weren't considered a Crime Against Humanity or a War Crime. Darned sure should be.

I am sure if they were ordered by a head of state, they would be.

[gadgetlady 4]

I am sure if they were ordered by a head of state, they would be.

Is that the criterion? I don't know. I've never studied it.

[anonemouse 1]

Is that the criterion? I don't know. I've never studied it.

I have no idea if it is or not, but I think it makes sense. If you think about it, if one guy goes off the deep end during war and kills 40 people, it isn't really considered a war crime. On the other hand, if a commanding officer orders the attack, it would be.

Another thing to think about is the Geneva Convention, if suicide attacks are considered war crimes. If you call a suicide attack a war crime, it implies that you are in an organized war. Therefore, you have a specified enemy. If you have a specified enemy, shouldn't they be protected by the Geneva Convention? I really think that might be one reason why our administration isn't calling suicide attacks "war crimes". I think that if they do start calling them that, they'll have to answer some hard questions about their own conduct in the war.

[GeezerSue 7]

I was asleep. Old people do that a lot. I'll probably be asleep again in a few minutes.

I was at the Bellagio in Las Vegas last week, too. But I was too busy in the casino and spa--mostly the spa--to bother watching weirdos on the strip. However, most people don't realize that until very recently, Las Vegas was a Mormon town and that--except for the strip--the Mormon-flavor of Christianity was predominant in Clark County. I haven't lived there in about fifteen years, but Las Vegas, except for the strip, really had little to do with being Sin City. It was a very decent small town kind of place.

Now, here's what I wonder about...going back to the first page...Ron has been here at LBT for two weeks. (and racked up over 250 posts, almost NONE of them having to do with the band or losing weight or any of THAT stuff.) Anyway, he is here--or so it says--at the invitation of "tomorrowsdream," whom he calls "Dee."

As coincidences go, there's a tomorrowsdream at OH, who also signs stuff as "Dee," except that THAT tomorrowsdream has the same face as Dody who--I thought--was permanently banned from here. At least the name Dody is not still active here. So who is Dee/tomorrowsdream and who, exactly, is having all the fun on this thread?

This place can get confusing...

[TruBlueSue 0]

Oh, I agree! In Christianity, I don't think anyone should believe because of blind faith, but should question and investigate to form a belief. Is that waht you mean about "wrestling"!

That's exactly what I mean with wrestling.

[Ron Cusano 0]

You are taking things I said and quoted from the Bible out of context and in a way I never meant them. Nevertheless, and not to belabor the point, if this is how things were taken, I deeply apoligize to everyone. I may have said some things in an inapproiate way while being the brunt of mockery and name calling myself, but should have shown more restraint and not have responded in that same manner.

I have never said or implyed that I know more about Christianity that anyone else. Can we put the "bad blood" behind us and consider honest discussion please?

Okay...

When this thread first started, you implied that atheists were ignorant and uneducated. That isn't respect. And to be honest, your responses to people challenging you over it came across as mocking.

You've told some of the Christians here that they didn't know what they were talking about and that they weren't good Christians.

You've called us desparate and vultures, you've implied that no one knows as much as you about Christianity and its values, you've used patronizing language, you've called people dishonest, you've called others "spiritually blind", you've implied that atheists are as bad as thieves, liars, murderers, and bigots, you've compared us to Sodomites, you've compared us to roaches (crawling out of the woodwork). Shall I continue?

[TruBlueSue 0]

With evangelical christianity the two become one because part of the tenents of our faith is that we need to share it with others. We do that by sharing the biblical truths that we believe. Apparently, sharing what I believe, and sharing it to be untimate truth, which I believe it to be, is what everyone gets upset about.

To expect me to keep my faith to myself is to ask me to not practice my faith.

Ron, honestly, I really don't think its you sharing what you believe to be the 'ultimate truth' that gets to some - including me - its your abrasive, imperative tone. (by imperative, I mean the statements with exclamation points...)

[TruBlueSue 0]

A fanatic Christian is one thing. A fanatic Muslim is another. I would be very careful about saying that they are the same. A fanatic is a fanatic, but a Christian is not a Muslim, or vice versa.

See, in my experience, fanatic Christians, Jews and Muslims are all fundamentalist, but not all fundamentalists are fanatics - to say that a muslim fanatic is different that a christian one is disingenuous - and what causes so much of the problem that we have here in North America with the Muslim world today. WE just don't get it.

[TruBlueSue 0]

As for suicide bombing being considered a war crime - the Geneva COnventions don't SPECIFICALLY address suicide bombers - the problem is that they usually occur outside the scope of a formal war. You have to look at the times in which the Conventions were written - these things just were so far outside the scope and experience of the authors that it wasn't even a though - kinda like flying a plane into a building on purpose was outside of almost everyone's imagination. Also, the Conventions don't get amended very often...

[TruBlueSue 0]

An aside to all - I apologize for posting a bunch of things at a time - I have a three year old and a cranky hubby who need and deserve my attention when I am at home, so I had to sign out last night and sign back in this morning between work calls...lol

[lisah25 3]

I fully accept the right of anyone here to believe or not believe anything they want. I have said that repeatedly, but no one is hearing it. I believe that what I believe is 100% absolute and correct, but I recognize others here do not believe that. I can accept that.

If you have said it over and over, and no one is hearing it, maybe the problem is in how you are communicating, not in the audience? After all, there are both Christians and non-Christians not "hearing it".

[lisah25 3]

So if you can mock fundamentalists and compare them to Taliban, is it OK if I were to mock athiests and compare them to Hitler? Is that acceptable to you??

Well, I'm not sure what the commonality would be, since Hitler claimed to be a Christian.