Different PreOp but everyone shrinking liver and losing weight!

[Heather Meyer 103]

Okay...this is my rant for today. I have read countless health books and i could be a nutritionist or dietician for people because i have studied it so much over the years...I like research...what can i say?

Here is my rant today: What is the nonesense about the different preop diets for every person. Each person is trying to shrink their liver because like just about every obese or morbidly obese person..our liver gets enlarged due to the years of abuse on our bodies from eating unhealthy food.

Howevee..there is no real difference between a preop liquid Protein shake diet or a low carb high Protein 3 shakes plus lean and green diet. Why starve the liquid shake diet people by giving them 600 calories of liquids when you could give them a 4-6 oz lean steak with 2-4 cups of non starchy vegetables containing little carbs and increased fibre?

Both are proven to work just as effectively shrinking the liver and causing ketosis and aiding in weight loss.

I can understand the difference in time frames and the need for some to lose a certain amount of weight. This i get....but drs feeding patients bull about how one preop over the other is a better choice for liver shrinking diet....total B friggen S!

Oh and if the dr implies that a liquid diet is better to help teach the patient how to live post op for a couple of weeks...fine! Just dont go telling the patient its better for the liver to be on a liquid diet!!

-end of rant!

[TheOldMeAgain 128]

Okay...this is my rant for today. I have read countless health books and i could be a nutritionist or dietician for people because i have studied it so much over the years...I like research...what can i say?

Here is my rant today: What is the nonesense about the different preop diets for every person. Each person is trying to shrink their liver because like just about every obese or morbidly obese person..our liver gets enlarged due to the years of abuse on our bodies from eating unhealthy food.

Howevee..there is no real difference between a preop liquid Protein shake diet or a low carb high Protein 3 shakes plus lean and green diet. Why starve the liquid shake diet people by giving them 600 calories of liquids when you could give them a 4-6 oz lean steak with 2-4 cups of non starchy vegetables containing little carbs and increased fibre?

Both are proven to work just as effectively shrinking the liver and causing ketosis and aiding in weight loss.

I can understand the difference in time frames and the need for some to lose a certain amount of weight. This i get....but drs feeding patients bull about how one preop over the other is a better choice for liver shrinking diet....total B friggen S!

Oh and if the dr implies that a liquid diet is better to help teach the patient how to live post op for a couple of weeks...fine! Just dont go telling the patient its better for the liver to be on a liquid diet!!

-end of rant!

I always wonder about the different diet approach pre and post opt too. What I plan to take away from it is there's always more then one way to skin a cat. There must not be a best way otherwise so many options wouldn't be available.

[gamergirl 4,610]

I thought about this a lot when I was on pre-op.

I think the ones that restrict you to liquids only are tying to keep it simple. The accepted way to reduce fatty liver is low carbs, very low fat, and no excess of calories. Perhaps they believe that if they open the door to actual meals, that someone might have chopped brisket thinking it's lean, or cook steaks with butter, or fry the fish etc.

It's very hard to go wrong with shakes and veg Soups or sf Jello and Popsicles. It's quite easy to go wrong with meat and vegetables.

But I do think this is not just about liver shrinking. It's about getting your head in the right place, getting ready for post-op etc. Believe me, the hunger does go away. Head hunger haunts you for a bit longer, but you won't be hungry once you "detox" from the sugar and carbs. It took me 5 days of needing naps, but then I went back to my routine travel which often had me on 18-19 hour days....and I did just fine with the liquids. You will get there too.. Just have faith that you will.

[FRED1977 186]

Okay...this is my rant for today. I have read countless health books and i could be a nutritionist or dietician for people because i have studied it so much over the years...I like research...what can i say?

Here is my rant today: What is the nonesense about the different preop diets for every person. Each person is trying to shrink their liver because like just about every obese or morbidly obese person..our liver gets enlarged due to the years of abuse on our bodies from eating unhealthy food.

Howevee..there is no real difference between a preop liquid Protein shake diet or a low carb high Protein 3 shakes plus lean and green diet. Why starve the liquid shake diet people by giving them 600 calories of liquids when you could give them a 4-6 oz lean steak with 2-4 cups of non starchy vegetables containing little carbs and increased fibre?

Both are proven to work just as effectively shrinking the liver and causing ketosis and aiding in weight loss.

I can understand the difference in time frames and the need for some to lose a certain amount of weight. This i get....but drs feeding patients bull about how one preop over the other is a better choice for liver shrinking diet....total B friggen S!

Oh and if the dr implies that a liquid diet is better to help teach the patient how to live post op for a couple of weeks...fine! Just dont go telling the patient its better for the liver to be on a liquid diet!!

-end of rant!

I agree the liquid diet is hell and all it did was take me away from eating. The diet also made me not want or crave food anymore. Till this day I still do not crave food. I find myself hungry but I don't want certain foods or sweets like I used to. I'm not sure how small the liver would be if we have been over eating for many years. Good rant. I'm right there with you.