Does anything know about death in Mexico.

[2btrim 129]

It's the same date as the person who died through MBC.. I'm suspecting that's who it is. 2betrim you remember that one I think...

Yep, sure do. I believe that person was said to have died of a pulmonary embolism.

[newcocoame 54]

What doctors are you all referring to? Some of us have gone to various parts of Mexico and some of us are on our way. Not being rude,but please share info that can HELP us make wise choices. This seems more like a "slambook" instead of an informative thread pertaining self-pay in Mexico.

Let's discuss precautionary measures, specific places,symptoms, or detailed accounts of incidences. Just my thoughts! Pro-active over here...

[BenniA 9]

I went to Mx. First order of business at the hospital was chest xray. Next to my room for an ekg.....then bloodwork....all pre op. Very organized operation. ... Dr Rodriguez.....Hospital Angeles....Tijuana. BeLiteWeight.com first class all the way.....amazing coordinator. ......last night there.....leak test. All results were given to me to travel with....for my drs at home. I reccommend them highly.

Thank you for your post. I have been waiting to here about someone having surgery with Dr Rodriguez recently. I plan on having surgery with him in January in Juarez. I have not been able to find anything negative about him, I think everyone has concerns about complications, so we do our research and use this forum to help us make the decision. Unfortunately not everyone can have surgery here in the states, but tragedies like this can happen here in the US.

[newcocoame 54]

Thank you for your post. I have been waiting to here about someone having surgery with Dr Rodriguez recently. I plan on having surgery with him in January in Juarez. I have not been able to find anything negative about him' date=' I think everyone has concerns about complications, so we do our research and use this forum to help us make the decision. Unfortunately not everyone can have surgery here in the states, but tragedies like this can happen here in the US.[/quote']

Hey! I am going to Tijuana with Dr. Fernando Garcia on September 10th. I am excited and so far, only good info about him. My cardiologist in Texas also did research. Praying for the best. I started my pre-op diet today and the Protein shakes are a struggle for me.

[No game 14,437]

Well fret not its not Garcia... Oh a girl just came back from there and gave some honest accounts that were refreshing to hear. I'll see if I can dig them up!

[No game 14,437]

http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/92820-the-birth-of-frankentummy/#entry974897

And it got pictures!!

http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/92584-pictures-of-tijuana-surgery-journey/page__fromsearch__1

[newcocoame 54]

http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/92820-the-birth-of-frankentummy/#entry974897

And it got pictures!!

http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/92584-pictures-of-tijuana-surgery-journey/page__fromsearch__1

Thanks!!!!

[Sydney Susan 333]

What doctors are you all referring to? Some of us have gone to various parts of Mexico and some of us are on our way. Not being rude' date='but please share info that can HELP us make wise choices. This seems more like a "slambook" instead of an informative thread pertaining self-pay in Mexico.

Let's discuss precautionary measures, specific places,symptoms, or detailed accounts of incidences. Just my thoughts! Pro-active over here...[/quote']

If you read the whole post I think you'll find most of what you are seeking. It's a difficult topic - most don't want to comment too much on the death of someone people "knew" through this site, out of respect for that person and her family and because we don't want to get our jollies from such an awful event. At the same time, there is a sometimes a troubling disregard for the risks of this operation and it is important to make people aware of this so they are fully informed ... You know, "it's not a cure and it's not always easy". You will have seen that sort of comment on here many times. This sort of thing brings it all home to us very starkly.

[gibson_girl 108]

I'm going to make an educated guess that every surgeon in TJ has had more than one death. The largest part of the population being sleeved will never sign onto a forum. There is a 1 in 400 death rate for Bariatric surgery. Dr Garcia had 5-8 surgeries per day while I was in florence with Dr Kelly. At that rate, especially being a newer surgeon I bet more than a few have not came back. It's a cold reality that we should not ignore. I knew that going in, and so should you.

I knew I wanted to find a very experienced surgeon, and my research told me to look for someone with not only a lot of VSGs but RNY experience also and to pretty much disregard band experience. Even though he had a very public (on the boards) death on the boards a few years ago, I still chose Dr Kelly for his record and expertise. Not to mention the warmness and caring you just can't fake. All these surgeons are working with some of the highest risk patients you can get. Don't bury your head in the sand, educate yourself......not because you haven't heard any bad on the forum, because the forum is just a small percentage. How long have they been doing this particular surgery? What other surgical training does he have? Does he belong to the American FACS who does keep data on its surgeons? Ect

God bless you all. I was excited for the 399 out of 400 chance I'd be just fine, but was prepared to be that 1 in 400. God willing I'm 4 months post op and down 90lbs.

[Tudor 16]

I'm going to make an educated guess that every surgeon in TJ has had more than one death. The largest part of the population being sleeved will never sign onto a forum. There is a 1 in 400 death rate for Bariatric surgery. Dr Garcia had 5-8 surgeries per day while I was in florence with Dr Kelly. At that rate, especially being a newer surgeon I bet more than a few have not came back. It's a cold reality that we should not ignore. I knew that going in, and so should you.

I knew I wanted to find a very experienced surgeon, and my research told me to look for someone with not only a lot of VSGs but RNY experience also and to pretty much disregard band experience. Even though he had a very public (on the boards) death on the boards a few years ago, I still chose Dr Kelly for his record and expertise. Not to mention the warmness and caring you just can't fake. All these surgeons are working with some of the highest risk patients you can get. Don't bury your head in the sand, educate yourself......not because you haven't heard any bad on the forum, because the forum is just a small percentage. How long have they been doing this particular surgery? What other surgical training does he have? Does he belong to the American FACS who does keep data on its surgeons? Ect

God bless you all. I was excited for the 399 out of 400 chance I'd be just fine, but was prepared to be that 1 in 400. God willing I'm 4 months post op and down 90lbs.

I'm going to make an educated guess that every surgeon in TJ has had more than one death. The largest part of the population being sleeved will never sign onto a forum. There is a 1 in 400 death rate for Bariatric surgery. Dr Garcia had 5-8 surgeries per day while I was in florence with Dr Kelly. At that rate, especially being a newer surgeon I bet more than a few have not came back. It's a cold reality that we should not ignore. I knew that going in, and so should you.

I knew I wanted to find a very experienced surgeon, and my research told me to look for someone with not only a lot of VSGs but RNY experience also and to pretty much disregard band experience. Even though he had a very public (on the boards) death on the boards a few years ago, I still chose Dr Kelly for his record and expertise. Not to mention the warmness and caring you just can't fake. All these surgeons are working with some of the highest risk patients you can get. Don't bury your head in the sand, educate yourself......not because you haven't heard any bad on the forum, because the forum is just a small percentage. How long have they been doing this particular surgery? What other surgical training does he have? Does he belong to the American FACS who does keep data on its surgeons? Ect

God bless you all. I was excited for the 399 out of 400 chance I'd be just fine, but was prepared to be that 1 in 400. God willing I'm 4 months post op and down 90lbs.

Very well said. I agree 100%. The surgery and chosing the surgeon is a tough decision. You take your life in your hands every day you drive to work. Some people die driving to work every day but they are still going.

[Sydney Susan 333]

You take your life in your hands every day you drive to work. Some people die driving to work every day but they are still going.

I know people are not saying we just gloss over Rox's death, but I feel I really need to speak up here. This is not a simple thing.

Remember....

• If someone dies in a car accident there is a police investigation at least
  
• Sensible people take precautions - we don't choose to drive cars we know are 'an accident waiting to happen' or to be a passenger with an appalling driver, and (most of us) drive to the prevailing conditions... slow down in the riskier rain, stay home in a cyclone
  
• Governments take precautions - we have road rules, safety standards on cars, driving tests and traffic cops
  
• We are all shocked and devastated when someone we love or even just know dies. It often causes us to reevaluate our priorities.
  

None of us just hop in the car to go to work each day without a reasonable expectation that we'll survive that trip... and we have reasons to hold that expectation (for some of the reasons above). Sure, it's not a guarantee of survival, but it's not a laissez faire attitude to the whole thing either.

A death during an operation such as this is tragic and quite possibly preventable. We owe it to those who have died while trying to implement their hopes for a long and healthy life to NOT quietly accept these deaths or shrug them off as statistics.

[Tudor 16]

Thats why I said is a tough decision but evaluating the risks is everyone personal job to do for himself. Everybody tries to minimize the risks by doing his homework. The result as we know is 399 out of 400 positive. There is that 0.25% thats called fatality wich scares everyone and all of us tries to avoid. Knowing the person makes it even harder . Unfortunatley is going to happen again maibe to a different doctor in a different place. You can just hope you are not going to be a part of it.

[No game 14,437]

I know people are not saying we just gloss over Rox's death' date=' but I feel I really need to speak up here. This is not a simple thing.

Remember....

[*']If someone dies in a car accident there is a police investigation at least

[*]Sensible people take precautions - we don't choose to drive cars we know are 'an accident waiting to happen' or to be a passenger with an appalling driver, and (most of us) drive to the prevailing conditions... slow down in the riskier rain, stay home in a cyclone

[*]Governments take precautions - we have road rules, safety standards on cars, driving tests and traffic cops

[*]We are all shocked and devastated when someone we love or even just know dies. It often causes us to reevaluate our priorities.

None of us just hop in the car to go to work each day without a reasonable expectation that we'll survive that trip... and we have reasons to hold that expectation (for some of the reasons above). Sure, it's not a guarantee of survival, but it's not a laissez faire attitude to the whole thing either.

A death during an operation such as this is tragic and quite possibly preventable. We owe it to those who have died while trying to implement their hopes for a long and healthy life to NOT quietly accept these deaths or shrug them off as statistics.

^ this^

And furthermore, as I said before..

In the USA,

Everything that happens during the care of a patient is documented. And available to the family. And the death of a patient is reviewed by the hospital and the state. Also if that death is caused by a complication from surgery? It gets investigated.

The answers for Rox's family are not coming as easy..

[Georgia 2,908]

I agree with the knowledge that there is a risk involved; albeit, a small one but there IS a risk.

What there should not be is neglect, coverup and lack of investigative knowledge forthcoming.

It is definitely owed to not only Rox's family but others seeking surgery at that clinic to fully be able to comprehend what went wrong, what could have been altered to have prevented her death (if anything) and what precautions will be put in place going forward.

I,for one, wouldn't darken the door until I had ALL the facts.

[Juciilyps:) 67]

people need to letb that woman rest in peace.. now we all know that will not stop u from getting the surgery.. so leave it alone...if she was ur family member u wouldn't like this..Im a nurse folks die all the time from every and anything.. some the doctors fault and some is just the luck of the draw.. if its ur time .. it's going be ur time no matter where you are or who did your surgery... its life.. how many of you that are commenting on this sad post will let it affect u .. and ur going to start dieting and exercising to get the weight that u want to be?... So let us be respectful and keep it moving about this..