Michellemo 161 Posted August 19, 2013 I've been looking into Calcium from milk and lots of stuff I've read says milk actually causes our body to lose calcium. Crazy I know since as children we are taught that drinking milk is good. The stuff I've studied says its better to get it from grains ,fruit and vegetables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted August 19, 2013 Helps big business sell more milk, no? They have the marketing angle figured out. This is true in almost every industry from gas to oil to dairy to meat. Spin the marketing a certain way means profit even if not in the best interest of the people. Standard business practice, at least here in America since the founding of the country (although, back then, it was more about selling snake oil to the people as a health remedy). A good book to read on big business profit driven practices is "Salt Sugar Fat: How the food Giants Hooked Us." 1 Michellemo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cindymg 629 Posted August 19, 2013 More Magazine (otherwise known as "the Menopause Rag"), published an article about the scandal of bone density tests. Evidently the machines aren't calibrated correctly and there are a whole bunch of people out there talking the osteo drugs that don't need them. I am 5'11", large-boned, I walk, lift weights and take 1,000 mg of Calcium and 5,000 of Vit D a day. This is addition to 2 servings of Greek yogurt, cottage and other cheese per day. Every year my doctor gives me an order for a bone density scan and every year I don't go. I think it's a racket by big Pharma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feedyoureye 3,087 Posted August 19, 2013 I've been looking into Calcium from milk and lots of stuff I've read says milk actually causes our body to lose calcium. Crazy I know since as children we are taught that drinking milk is good. The stuff I've studied says its better to get it from grains ,fruit and vegetables. I have read this too... my Dr. friend (my age, woman) will not take calcium. 1 Michellemo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feedyoureye 3,087 Posted August 19, 2013 That is interesting to know. I currently take 1500 mg a day of BA chews (caramel - yum!), but may have to double based on your empirical results? My WW scale does bone density. I am not sure how accurate it is, but it is consistently giving me values that average around 8.0. This value appears to be in range of good bone mass according to the documented range of 7.4-8.2 based upon my age of 37: http://www.wholesale...tchers-WW66.pdf Your thoughts? I have a weight watchers scale too... I am 60, and my bone density is over 7... so I guess its all good. I took my calcium citrate for the first 2 years, not so much now, I do eat lots of veggies and take my vit d and magnesium since reading the newer research on Calcium use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Georgia 2,908 Posted August 19, 2013 http://www.nutrasolutions.com/articles/83004-harm-from-calcium-supplements http://www.empowher.com/arthritis/content/can-calcium-supplements-harm-your-heart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsereno 2,525 Posted August 19, 2013 More Magazine (otherwise known as "the Menopause Rag")' date=' published an article about the scandal of bone density tests. Evidently the machines aren't calibrated correctly and there are a whole bunch of people out there talking the osteo drugs that don't need them. I am 5'11", large-boned, I walk, lift weights and take 1,000 mg of Calcium and 5,000 of Vit D a day. This is addition to 2 servings of Greek yogurt, cottage and other cheese per day. Every year my doctor gives me an order for a bone density scan and every year I don't go. I think it's a racket by big Pharma.[/quote'] Can you provide a link to the article? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsereno 2,525 Posted August 19, 2013 I have a weight watchers scale too... I am 60' date=' and my bone density is over 7... so I guess its all good. I took my calcium citrate for the first 2 years, not so much now, I do eat lots of veggies and take my vit d and magnesium since reading the newer research on Calcium use.[/quote'] Can you provide links to this research? TIA, Lynda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddleman 4,376 Posted August 19, 2013 As an aside, too much Calcium leads to calcium oxidation issues manifested as stones in the kidney. Of course, same is true of Protein and I am definitely guilty of excess. drinking a lot of Water will keep the stones away in both cases from my research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Georgia 2,908 Posted August 19, 2013 Can you provide links to this research? TIA' date=' Lynda[/quote'] Lynda, see my links above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsereno 2,525 Posted August 19, 2013 As an aside' date=' too much Calcium leads to Calcium oxidation issues manifested as stones in the kidney.[/quote'] Good grief! Now I'm not sure what to do. Waiting to read articles other than the one Georgia just posted. Kaiser is pretty careful, so I would trust their machines more than others. Lynda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Georgia 2,908 Posted August 19, 2013 One more from July. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23880796/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Georgia 2,908 Posted August 19, 2013 One more from July http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23880796/ Sorry. My phone is doubling entries! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cindymg 629 Posted August 19, 2013 Can you provide a link to the article? The original article doesn't seem to be online anymore. I'll see if i still have a copy. It upset me so much I gave a copy to all my doctors at the time. This isn't the article I was looking for, but it is interesting: http://www.more.com/health/wellness/brittle-truth-about-osteoporosis-and-your-bones There is also this thread: http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/horror-story-with-a-dexa-bone-density-test/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsereno 2,525 Posted August 19, 2013 The original article doesn't seem to be online anymore. I'll see if i still have a copy. It upset me so much I gave a copy to all my doctors at the time. This isn't the article I was looking for, but it is interesting: http://www.more.com/...-and-your-bones There is also this thread: http://www.inspire.c...e-density-test/ Interesting. Unlike many women, I do have a baseline from pre-menopause. The change was dramatic. Large enough that for me, bone loss is a reality. My paternal grandmother suffered with osteoporosis beginning in her 70s. My maternal female relatives all die before 75, so I'm not sure about that side. I do get a lot of Calcium from foods. I eat a cup of nonfat greek yogurt a day and often eat spinach and salmon. Lynda 1 No game reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites