SICK, STILL SICK, CONTINUE TO BE SICK...SERIOUSLY AM I THE ONLY PERSON ON HERE WHO HAS BEEN SICK ALMOST THE ENTIRE TIME SINCE GETTING SLEEVED?

[misse28 9]

Thanks so much cause I am tryna stay hydrated also and I was a big Gatorade drinker pre op but I was scared because I got sick from Protein Shakes so I backed away from sugar but I am gonna try it and just alternate it with Water thank you!

[TES 858]

Uh, BMI does matter 100%, because not all heights are "obese" at a BMI of 30. Some people would be "underweight".

You are confused. Not all WEIGHTS are obese at a specific height, but a BMI inherently has already considered the person's height and weight (that's why you put both into a BMI calculator). Her BMI pre-op was 32.4, and ANY BMI or 30 or above is obese according to NHLBI categories, which are universally used by physicians and insurance companies. Here you go: http://www.nhlbi.nih...BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih...ity/bmi_tbl.htm

[TES 858]

You are confused. Not all WEIGHTS are obese at a specific height, but a BMI inherently has already considered the person's height and weight (that's why you put both into a BMI calculator). Her BMI pre-op was 32.4, and ANY BMI or 30 or above is obese according to NHLBI categories, which are universally used by physicians and insurance companies. Here you go: http://www.nhlbi.nih...BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih...ity/bmi_tbl.htm

P.S.--the preop BMI she listed was obviously a typo, since the exact weight and weight loss were listed. It most likely was meant to be 33, not 53, a rounding of the 32.4 number.

[TES 858]

Ummm... Hehehe....ok

http://en.m.wikipedi...Body_mass_index

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

[TES 858]

Ummm... Hehehe....ok

http://en.m.wikipedi...Body_mass_index

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

[tempname123 37]

P.S.--the preop BMI she listed was obviously a typo, since the exact weight and weight loss were listed. It most likely was meant to be 33, not 53, a rounding of the 32.4 number.

Well I am not one to ASSume, she typed 53 not 33 and considering the FIVE and the THREE are not near each other, I will still NOT ASSume that. My insurance and SURGEON required that I meet my BMI requirement and weight requirement thus I could not lose weight during the supervised weight loss attempt. That is for BOTH of my insurances.

My surgery was done at a "Center of Excellence" whatever that means, but I'm told it means they know there stuff. I've heavily researched bariatric surgery for nearly 5 years before making the decision and both BMI and weight are factors (plus the comorbid).... Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible. Sorry, I'm a high caliber student; my brain has been taught to think critically and rationally, not to assume, and not to take information that is not from a resource that holds validity and reliability.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.

[TES 858]

Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.

Actually, the web Site with the BMI calculator is part of www.nhlbi.gov--which is the NIH's National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which is an authoritative government resource and the gold standard for physicians and insurance companies to calculate BMIs. I am not trying to hurt your feelings, I just wanted you to understand that a 30 BMI or above is obese at ANY height, because the BMI calculator includes both weight and height in the calculation. I think what you may be confused about is that a specific weight may not be obese, depending on the person's height. That is why a BMI calculator is helpful. Also, I am not trying to argue with you, but I do think it's important to correct a misstatement such as a 30 BMI can be underweight depending on your height--so other people reading the thread who don't know a lot about BMIs aren't misinformed. I wasn't assuming re: the OP's BMI--I calculated it based on the weight and height and total weight loss the OP provided, using the NHLBI BMI calculator. I agree that seeing the incorrect BMI in the initial post was confusing, and I did comment on it in my first response to the OP. As for medical advice, the only thing I recommended to the OP is that she see talk to her surgeon and/or see a gastroenterologist who has specialty knowledge in bariatric surgical patients.

[AussieLady 521]

Well I am not one to ASSume' date=' she typed 53 not 33 and considering the FIVE and the THREE are not near each other, I will still NOT ASSume that. My insurance and SURGEON required that I meet my BMI requirement and weight requirement thus I could not lose weight during the supervised weight loss attempt. That is for BOTH of my insurances.

My surgery was done at a "Center of Excellence" whatever that means, but I'm told it means they know there stuff. I've heavily researched bariatric surgery for nearly 5 years before making the decision and both BMI and weight are factors (plus the comorbid).... Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible. Sorry, I'm a high caliber student; my brain has been taught to think critically and rationally, not to assume, and not to take information that is not from a resource that holds validity and reliability.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.[/quote']

Hmmm, I think everyone is shaking their head and wondering how to respond to this and rightly, they have decided not to. However, I would like to say that it is obvious that you are "a high calibre student" but you are also a high calibre pain in the butt.org.edu.gov.

[sleevieray 25]

Thanks for the laugh, Aussie Lady! Well said!

[tempname123 37]

Hmmm, I think everyone is shaking their head and wondering how to respond to this and rightly, they have decided not to. However, I would like to say that it is obvious that you are "a high calibre student" but you are also a high calibre pain in the butt.org.edu.gov.

Ahh, but you still read and responded didn't you? Don't like what I have to say, don't read it. Oh, and it's not "high calibre" its high caliber. Calibre is a font, I believe.

[tempname123 37]

Actually, the web Site with the BMI calculator is part of www.nhlbi.gov--which is the NIH's National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which is an authoritative government resource and the gold standard for physicians and insurance companies to calculate BMIs. I am not trying to hurt your feelings, I just wanted you to understand that a 30 BMI or above is obese at ANY height, because the BMI calculator includes both weight and height in the calculation. I think what you may be confused about is that a specific weight may not be obese, depending on the person's height. That is why a BMI calculator is helpful. Also, I am not trying to argue with you, but I do think it's important to correct a misstatement such as a 30 BMI can be underweight depending on your height--so other people reading the thread who don't know a lot about BMIs aren't misinformed. I wasn't assuming re: the OP's BMI--I calculated it based on the weight and height and total weight loss the OP provided, using the NHLBI BMI calculator. I agree that seeing the incorrect BMI in the initial post was confusing, and I did comment on it in my first response to the OP. As for medical advice, the only thing I recommended to the OP is that she see talk to her surgeon and/or see a gastroenterologist who has specialty knowledge in bariatric surgical patients.

Feelings are not hurt; overweight, obese and morbidly obese are significantly different.

The link did not work nor does it end in a .gov

Further, who are you to correct another person’s misstatement? How do you know she made a typo or misstatement? I have a strong feeling that considering she was not obese or morbidly obese, has resulted in severe malnutrition & mal-absorption. If you can perhaps login to your local library district and access their scholarly journal databases you will see that Bariatric Weigh Loss surgery has been highly debated amongst the medical community, and recommended to be avoided for people who are only “overweight” because it can have significant negative consequences. I would be happy to post some, but journal articles alone can be 12-200 pages, and are only accessible while in the database (which is a paid subscription). Read and absorb not what media outlets want you to read and believe.

You can use all the Rhetoric you want, but at the end of the day, a spade is always a spade. I initially tried to give helpful hints too, until I saw the misleading stats and began to question it. Now, considering we are each entitled to our own opinion, and you are not clearly going to change my opinion nor will I change yours. We can continue, or agree to disagree.

At the end of the day I still stand by my words that you cannot help someone who has provided false information.

[No game 14,437]

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

Girl,

Somebody's in an alternate universe, but it's not you!

[No game 14,437]

And a BMI of 30 is not obese for an individual that tall. She's 5'6 so 145 is a BMI of 23.4

I'm going to break it down in easy terms here....

Body Mass Index (BMI) is a number calculated from a person's weight and height.

So if a person is at a 30 BMI, he or she is obese.

It does not matter if they are 4'9 or 5'9!!

Oh and yes I think the op miss typed... It happens all the time here.

[TES 858]

The link did not work nor does it end in a .gov

the link does work and it's a .gov URL--it has an extension at the end bc it's a subpage of www.nhlbi.nih.gov. If you want, you could go to the home page and navigate to the BMI calculator that way--it will still get you to the same place.

I am going to chalk all of this up to the fact that it looks like you had surgery about a week ago and you are probably still on full liquids. I remember that time well and it was very trying! I hope that you are doing well. Wishing you all the best.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Who has the popcorn?