Lower BMI Bandsters!

[ser123 0]

Hey Mindful, I know that babygotback is on her preop diet, so she isn't going to be getting enough calories for the next week or so.

I wonder how excited Audree is today?

You can figure out your resting metabolic rate with a fair amount of accuracy by doing the following equations:

Women:

655.0955 + (9.5634*0.4539*Weight in Lbs) + (1.8496*2.54*height in inches) - (4.6756*age in years)

Men:

66.4730 + (13.7516*0.4938*weight in Lbs) + (5.0033*2.54*height in inches) - (1.8496*age in years)

That # gives you your resting metabolic rate, which is how many calories it would take for you to exist while sitting in a chair and reading a book.

To figure out (roughly) how many calories it would take to sustain you doing normal daily activities you would do this:

RMR * 1.2 = total calories if you are sedentary - desk job, no exercise

RMR * 1.375 = total calories if you have a desk job, but walk 3X a week for 20 minutes, or if you don't exercise but are active with your kids or at work

RMR * 1.55 = total calories if you exercise hard, 40-60 minutes 3-5x a week

RMR * 1.725 = total calories if you exercise intensely, 40-60 minutes 6-7X a week. Like training for a marathon, for example

RMR * 1.9 = total calories if you exercise intensely 40-60minutes 6-7X a week with a physical job/active with kids OR you train 40-60 minutes 6-7x a week 2 times a day

[Mindful 0]

Thanks SuperGenius for clarifying - makes more sense now. Plus, I can understand where you get the name supergenius! Thanks so much for giving the calculations because I haven't had my RMR tested in a couple of years and now I can see how it's changed. You rock. BTW, BabyGotBack, sorry I assumed you were on regular food (you 2, Sherrijo). Have a great day, all. :0

[BabyGotBack 0]

I was out doing some shopping!!!!

Today is day one of my pre op diet. (for the second time since my surery was rescheduled.

I have been on the un-diet since the holidays and have gained 5 pounds. So, I am definitely getting some serious calories in!!!HEHEHEEEEE

My pre op diet, given to me by my dietician, is a proten shake for Breakfast, and a lean cuisine for lunch and dinner.< /p>

I went to Allbertsons' this morning and was impressed with the selection they had for things I will need for post op recovery. They had a really nice heating pad for $12, lots of different types of clear boullion (Better than Boullion, Kitchen Basics in little juice box sizes, low sodium), no sodium chicken broth powder, Wolfgang Pucks gourmet boullion ( a little higher in sodium, 620gms), Gas X strips, liquid Tylenol PM to help me sleep ( I have to look for the liquid tylenol regular, heard they have it at Wal Mart?), Kellogs protien Water (5 grms of protien), crystalized lemon to add to water warm and cold ( it is a natural diretic, helps with water retention), sugar free Jello and juice pops.

I also stocked up on some frozen stuff for my family so they can grap a quick meal in case I am not able to cook right away.

How is everyone else doing???:clap2:

[BabyGotBack 0]

I am sooooooooooooooooo hungry!!!!! I can't stand it. I took a Green T appetite suppresant. It just barely curbs the appetite and I am waiting for it to kick in and for lunch time!!!! I bought a bunch of really yummy Lean Cuisines.

I am also drinking my Water.

I am going to get my elyptical inside and do that. So, please keep me accountable!!!!

HUNGRY!:hungry: :faint:

[deckedout 0]

Audree,

Can you get out of the house? Go shopping at the mall, go for a long walk somewhere and drink a bottle of Water while your out. Staying at home makes the kichen too close.

Did you get some of the metamuci recommended by Dr. Ortiz's office. Take 2 and drink a bunch of water. The Fiber helps to fill you up.

[ddee 0]

Hi, all! I think we're bringing in the New Year right! I am just in from an awesome shopping trip to Memphis with my mom and daughter. We ate lunch with my sister, brother, and his wife. I ate very little tortilla Soup, mostly liquid, and 2 bites of spinach quiche. I have my first fill this coming Thursday. My port area is really sore still. My incision is still touchy, but better.

I need to walk today but the 1 1/2 hour drive has zapped me.

I did buy some pretty tops to go back to work in. My daughter had borrowed all of my larger clothes from before I lost my weight with the first surgery to wear after gaining weight from having her second baby.

She returned all those bigger sizes in August; they were threadbare from going back and forth...Hopefully, a few new tops will do me until late spring. This summer I hope to be much slimmer.

Audree, Paige, and anyone else being banded in the next few days,Good Luck!

I'll be at home one more week before going back to school.

Dianne

[BabyGotBack 0]

Audree,

Can you get out of the house? Go shopping at the mall, go for a long walk somewhere and drink a bottle of Water while your out. Staying at home makes the kichen too close.

Did you get some of the metamuci recommended by Dr. Ortiz's office. Take 2 and drink a bunch of water. The fiber helps to fill you up.

Thanks for the advice DeckedOut!

I actually have not gotten that info from Dr. Ortiz. Are they pills?

Audree

[BabyGotBack 0]

Protein is a very important nutrient. It is necessary for your body to build new tissue following surgery and to maintain muscle mass while you are rapidly losing weight. The goal is to lose fat tissue, not muscle. It may be difficult to get in enough Protein, especially in the early weeks after surgery. At mealtimes, start with you protein-rich foods first and then eat your vegetables.

One of the questions I'm asked most often is how to get enough proetin without guzzling Protein Shakes. If you are trying to get 50-70 grams of protein per day I would suggest choosing high protein foods in lieu of other 'filler foods' -- ie. have beef Jerky for a snack, yogurt rather than Jello, eggs rather than pancakes, etc. This is not a diet; it is simply a list of high protein foods to help you gt what you need.

Serving size Protein grams

Kelloggs Protein Water 5 (my new favorite)

barley, uncooked (1 cup) 16.5

baked Beans (1/2 cup) 8.1

Kidney beans (1/2 cup) 7.2

Lima beans (1/2 cup) 5.4

bean Soup (1 cup) 7.6

corned beef (3oz) 22.9

hamburger (3oz) 21.8

roast beef (3oz) 23.3

cottage cheese (1/2 cup) 13.6

fried chicken (1/2 breast) 24.7

chicken drumstick 12.5

chicken, dark (3.5oz) 29.3

chicken, white (3.5oz) 32.3

chicken salad (1/2 cup) 17.4

cocoa from mix (1 cup) 7.0

corn bread (1 square) 5.0

cream Soups (1 cup) 7.0

custard (1/2 cup) 7.2

egg, boiled 6.3

egg, fried 6.7

egg, scrambled 7.1

baked flounder (3oz) 30.2

frankfurter 7.2

haddock (1 filet) 16.6

red snapper (3oz) 39.0

scallops (5-6 medium) 39.5

shrimp (5 large) 15.5

shrimp, canned (3oz) 20.8

baked ham (3oz) 26.3

boiled ham (2oz) 14.5

lamb chop, broiled (4oz) 20.2

beef liver, fried (3oz) 13.2

calf liver, fried (3oz) 15.1

lobster (1 cup) 19.5

minestrone (1 cup) 5.0

onion soup (1 cup) 8.1

oyster stew (1 cup) 15.8

pea soup (1 cup) 13.3

perch (3oz) 22.5

pork chop (3.5oz) 21.4

bkes sole (3.5oz) 30.0

spareribs (6 average) 14.9

broiled trout (3oz) 20.3

water packed tuna (1/2 cup) 36.4

turkey, dark (3.5oz) 30.0

turkey, white (3.5oz) 32.9

yogurt (1/2 cup) 4.4

I got this from my bandsters group to make sure you get your protein intake. Hope this helps!

Audree:hungry:

[BabyGotBack 0]

Dr. Fox's Plateau-Busting Plan

as submitted by Blu on 5/8/00

This is the plan that Dr. Fox gives to his RNY and AGB patients in order to get through a plateau in weight loss. We put this up here as a reference material -- but many people find it useful. (Emphasis by editor.)

#1 Do for 10 days to break plateau

#2 Drink 2 quarts of Water a day

#3 You must have 45 grams of Protein supplement and all your vitamin & mineral supplements each day.

#4 You may consume up to 3 oz. of the following high-protein foods, 5 times a day:

• beef,
  
• pork,
  
• chicken,
  
• turkey,
  
• lamb,
  
• fish,
  
• eggs,
  
• low-fat cheese,
  
• cottage cheese,
  
• plain yogurt (or artificially sweetened),
  
• peanut butter,
  
• beans/legumes.

#5 You may also have:

• sugar-free popsicles (avoid juice popsicles),
  
• tea or coffee,
  
• sugar-free sodas,
  
• sugar-free Jello,
  
• broths & bouillons,
  
• Crystal Lite drinks.< /li>

#6 IF IT IS NOT ON THE LIST YOU MAY NOT HAVE IT!

#7 Keep a food diary and try to get 30 minutes of exercise daily.

Thought this was good! Audree

[BabyGotBack 0]

You are losing 1-2 pounds per week.

If you are not losing 1-2 pounds per week:

• You may need an eating adjustment<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

1. Are you eating 60 grams of Protein a day

2. Are you eating 25 grams of fiber

3. Are you avoiding all liquid calories

a. Soup can be sign of “soft calorie syndrome”

b. Alcohol contains a lot of calories – 7 calories per gram

(1) It’s also a stomach irritant

c. fruit juice is just sugar Water

4. Are you making healthy food choices from a wide variety of foods?

a. Are you avoiding soft foods

b. You can’t just eat what’s easy

c. cheese is glorified fat

5. Are you drinking 6-8 glasses of water a day between meals

6. Are you eating too much junk

a. chips, chocolate, nuts, ice cream, Cookies and other highly processed junk foods are too calorically dense to be regular parts of a healthy diet. But don’t avoid them completely to the point where you feel deprived.

b. Stay out of fast food places

7. Are you getting in two servings of Calcium daily

8. Do you always eat the protein first

9. Then the vegetables or fruits

a. Five servings a day

b. Potatoes are NOT a vegetable

10. Is your portion size appropriate?

a. meat or fish

(1) 3 ounces – the size of a deck of cards

b. Vegetables

(1) ½ cup – the size of your fist

c. Starch

(1) If you eat the protein and the vegetables first you don’t need much

(2) Avoid: rice, potatoes, Pasta

11. You might try avoiding artificial sweeteners

a. Some people think that artificial sweeteners stimulate the appetite

b. They are HUNDREDS of times sweeter than sugar

c. They teach you to like things too sweet

d. There is no evidence that people who use them are any thinner than people who don’t

12. Avoid most diet foods

a. Real food usually tastes better

b. Real food is more satisfying than low calorie substitutes

c. When you are only eating a tiny bit the caloric savings is not that great

(1) Use a teaspoon of real butter instead of a tablespoon of diet margarine

(2) The body has no way to break down artificial fats

a. They may go into permanent storage

b. Some people think liposuction is the only way to remove hydrolyzed fats from the body

• You may need a behavior adjustment<o:p></o:p>

1. Are you eating only when you are hungry?<o:p></o:p>

a. If you’re not sure drink 8 ounces of water and wait.

2. Are you eating three meals a day?

a. With maybe 1 or 2 small Snacks

3. Are you sitting down to eat?

4. Are you eating consciously?

a. No distractions, turn off the TV, put the book or newspaper away, pay attention to your food and your companions

5. Are you eating slowly?

a. Put the fork down between bites

b. Take 20 to 30 minutes to finish a meal

c. Taking longer might cause the pouch to begin emptying

6. Are you taking small bites?

a. Tiny spoon, chopsticks, cocktail fork

7. Are you chewing well?

8. Are you drinking with your meals or too soon after your meals?

a. Practice water loading between meals

b. You won’t be thirsty if you are well hydrated before the meal

9. Are you stopping at the first sign of fullness?

a. Sometimes it’s a whisper: not hungry, had enough

b. Hard stop versus soft stop

10. Do not eat between meals. Stop grazing.

11. Do not eat when you are not hungry

C. You may need an activity adjustment<o:p></o:p>

1. Are you getting in 30 minutes of physical activity at least 3 times a week?

a. Over and above what you would do in the usual course of your day

b. Could you make it 4 or 5 times a week?

c. Could you make it 45 or 60 minutes?

2. Are you taking advantage of opportunities to increase your physical activity?

a. Taking the stairs instead of the elevators or escalators

b. Walking on the escalators instead of riding

c. Parking your car further away from the entrance

d. Getting out of the car instead of using the drive through

e. Getting off the bus one stop before your destination

f. Washing you car by hand instead of the car wash

g. Playing with your kids

D. You may need an attitude adjustment<o:p></o:p>

1. Are you committed to your weight loss journey?

2. Are you totally honest with yourself about how much you are eating and exercising?

a. Log your food and activity on ww.fitday.com for 3 days

3. Are you using food inappropriately to deal with emotional issues?

a. Have you identified what the emotions are that drive your eating?

b. Can you think of more appropriate ways to deal with those emotions?

c. Are you willing to seek help from a qualified counselor?

4. Are you attending and participating in support group meetings?

5. Have you drummed up some support from your family and friends?

6. Have you dealt with saboteurs realistically?

7. Do you have realistic expectations about the weight loss journey?

8. Are you still obsessing about food, weight, dieting, eating?

a. Obsessive – compulsive thoughts

(1) Obsess about something else

b. Perfectionism

(1) All or none, black and white thinking

c. Patience with the pace of healthy weight loss

9. Are you acknowledging your successes with non-food rewards?

10. Have you learned how to take a compliment?

11. Are you giving up diet mentality?

a. Stop weighing yourself several times a day or every day

b. Stop dieting

c. Stop depriving yourself

d. Stop defining food as “good” and “bad”

e. Stop rewarding and punishing yourself with food

12. How do you feel about all the changes taking place?

E. You may need a band adjustment<o:p></o:p>

1. You feel like you are making healthy food choices in appropriate portion sizes but getting hungry between meals?

2. You can still eat white bread, fibrous vegetables and large portions.

3. You are having to struggle to lose

4. You are gaining weight in spite of eating right, exercising and having a good mind set.

F. You may need your band loosened<o:p></o:p>

1. There are times when you can’t get fluids down

2. You are vomiting too much

a. How much is too much?

3. Do you have frequent reflux or heartburn at night?

a. Do not lie flat or bend over soon after eating

b. Do not eat late at night or just before bedtime

c. Rinse your pouch with a glass or water an hour before bedtime

d. Certain foods or drinks are more likely to cause reflux:

(1) Rich, spicy, fatty and fried foods

(2) Chocolate

(3) Caffeine

(4) Alcohol

(5) Some fruits and vegetables

a. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Oranges</st1:place></st1:City>, lemons, tomatoes, peppers

(6) Peppermint

a. Baking soda toothpaste

(7) Carbonated drinks

e. Eat slowly and do not eat big meals

f. If you smoke, quit smoking

g. Reduce stress

h. Exercise promotes digestion

i. Raise the head of your bed

j. Wear loose fitting clothing around your waist

k. Stress increases reflux

l. Take estrogen containing medications in the morning

m. Avoid aspirin, Aleve and ibuprofen at bedtime

(1) Tylenol is OK

n. Take an antacid (Pepcid complete) before retiring

o. Try other over-the-counter heartburn medications

p. See your health care provider

4. See your health care provider immediately (or call 911) if

a. You have a squeezing, tightness or heaviness in your chest, especially if the discomfort spreads to your shoulder, arm or jaw or is accompanied by shortness of breath, sweating, irregular or fast heartbeat or nausea. These could be symptoms of a heart attack.

b. If your symptoms are triggered by exercise.

c. If your pain localizes to your right side, especially if you also have nausea or fever

d. If you throw up vomit that looks like black sand or coffee grounds. Or if your stool is black, deep red or looks like it has tar in it. These are symptoms of bleeding and need immediate attention. (Note: Pepto-Bismol or other medications with bismuth will turn your stool black. Iron supplements can also make the stool tarry.)

e. If your pain is severe

<o:p> </o:p>

[ser123 0]

Audree is on a roll!

[ser123 0]

Pre band diet today was HARD, which I knew it would be. I tried to get out of it but my surgeon wouldn't give me a pass, LOL.

One good thing is I had my dad make me a tray for my treadmill. I am typing on my computer watching tv and walking on my treadmill at the same time. I have to walk fairly slow to be able to type but I have the incline up. I am very excited about my new toy.

Mindful, I am a diet and exercise FREAK. Lots of knowledge, excellent at exercise, very poor food willpower! For the rest of the week anyway...

[BabyGotBack 0]

Pre band diet today was HARD, which I knew it would be. I tried to get out of it but my surgeon wouldn't give me a pass, LOL.

One good thing is I had my dad make me a tray for my treadmill. I am typing on my computer watching tv and walking on my treadmill at the same time. I have to walk fairly slow to be able to type but I have the incline up. I am very excited about my new toy.

Mindful, I am a diet and exercise FREAK. Lots of knowledge, excellent at exercise, very poor food willpower! For the rest of the week anyway...

Supergenius, we sure sound a lot alike!!! I am a diet and exercise freak also!! I had even wanted to become a personal trainer during my one year of working out with one prior to my Tummy Tuck. I have done every diet known to man, but just can't get the maintenance part....

I think I may follow the 6 week body makeover. I had really good results with it. When I dig it up out of my closet, I will post how it goes.

I was STARVING today. I had to take my two appetite suppresants because I was very uncomfortable and felt like my ribs were being sucked in. Does anyone else get that feeling when they are REALLY hungry? It is a feeling like my actual ribs are being imploded and being pulled in from the inside!!! That is the feeling I get when my body is really hungry and not head hunger.

I ate my Lean Cuisine for dinner, 280 calories and I made a side of mushrooms stir fry because I felt SOOOOOOOOOOOO hungry!!!!!

I am very satisfied now and the appetite suppresant kicked in.It is a very natural one. The main ingredient is green tea, so it does not have any weird side effects.

Day 1 down, 6 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WWWWWWWOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOO

Audree

[deckedout 0]

Audree,

Yes, the metimucial is pills. they are kind of hard to get down, at least for me, but they did seem to help on the pre-op. try to keep your mind off of food, and if you drink hot tea or broth it has very little calories but will help to make you feel full. Also, keep your mind on the prize. I spent the entire two weeks worried that if I didn't make that 5% they would turn me down for surgery.

I still don't know that they wouldn't cause I made the 10 lbs loss.

Don't forget to move!

good luck

[BabyGotBack 0]

Thanks Deckout!

I am trying to keep my eye on the prize and I am just realizing different feelings I have about food and how everything we do centers around food. My husband wants to take me out dancing and all I can think about is that I can't eat!!!

Audree