Nicolanz 1,484 Posted July 5, 2013 Bklyn, I understand exactly what you're saying. Even though this wasn't rape, it was a claim of inappropriate behavior. She retracted her claim but I believe it was due to shame, fear, and probably guilt for risking this man's career. I've never been in a situation like this but I could imagine this is a prime example of why more women don't come forward. Fear of being further shamed and being deemed as a s1ut! It's really sad. I was beaten by a guy I dated. ....I was talked into going to the police ( I didn't want to because I'd feel bad for getting him arrested even though he deserved it). The police pretty much laughed at me and made me feel like I was just trying to get revenge of a relationship gone bad. I understand that shame and I'm disappointed there are so many women who put that shame on others which was displayed right here on this forum. I admit, I was frustrated when I first read the retraction. I'm truly sorry and now I get it. 10 Kristina J., BKLYNgal87, AmandaRaeLeo and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoneYa 380 Posted July 5, 2013 I think Dr Luna's followers should set aside the venom and empathize as women for a moment. Place yourself, your daughter or your best friend as a single young woman in the same scenario. Before you say "that would never happen because I'm too smart, too moral, too whatever don't bet on it. You don't have a clue how you would react to flirtation from the Dr unless you are the one there. I have known a few men that spent 50% of their time working on a female with only one end in sight. They run around half-cocked (pun intended) at all times ready and waiting for a way in (pun intended again). I have read the argument several times that "he was perfectly respectful" or "he didn't try anything with me so it didn't happen" ( that one might be sour grapes). Consider that just because he didn't try it on you does not mean he didn't try it on someone else. Show me the rapist, child molester or any other type of abuser that abused every person he contacted. They don't for a few reasons. It might be that you didn't slam his drawers. Who knows? I think that the OP's fault was in being naive and falling for an age old stunt. Maybe that was wishful thinking. Who didn't dream of falling in love and marrying the handsome Dr? As women we shouldn't be crucifying her. As always, if we do unto others as we would have them do unto us a lot of problems would not exist. Just saying. 7 MizzouGirl, jensjoy28, Kristina J. and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mimimcd 46 Posted July 5, 2013 What about the venom that dr lunas haters spewd. I am just using my experience qith him and I had a good experience ... I am not bashing her . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BKLYNgal87 503 Posted July 5, 2013 What about the venom that dr lunas haters spewd. I am just using my experience qith him and I had a good experience ... I am not bashing her . I think part of the problem is a lot of people have difficulty understanding the difference between bashing the doctor and supporting the girl who laid the complaint against him. 4 Kristina J., ShelPrice, Nicolanz and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoneYa 380 Posted July 5, 2013 I think part of the problem is a lot of people have difficulty understanding the difference between bashing the doctor and supporting the girl who laid the complaint against him. ^ THIS ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristina J. 581 Posted July 5, 2013 The **** shaming is by far the most disturbing part of this whole discussion. I've read plenty of disgusting judgmental posts claiming, "she should have kept her legs closed" or "what did she think would happen having sex with a guy 4 days after she met him"... All implying she deserved to used because she was so willing to put out! Where are all these high and mighty women with their posts of disgust that this man hopped into bed with someone after 4 days?! Where is there judgement that he should have kept it in his pants? Why don't any of these women believe that, just like she "got what she deserved" and should be have karma "bite her in the a$$," that perhaps he got what he deserved for hopping into bed with someone so quickly and breaking the rules at work?! People really disgust me. We are SO fast to knock other women down. I get it. He was kind and friendly. I had a good experience with him as my doctor too. But seriously?! Because he was good to you, there's no way he could have used another patient? Come on. So over all this ignorance. 14 MizzouGirl, Nicolanz, zoftig and 11 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mimimcd 46 Posted July 5, 2013 Well all I can say is I said the karma part !!!! I rhink if the retraction had not been posted then we would of been sympathetic but atvthat point ee were all in a tailspin due to our good experience with him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted July 5, 2013 I must say I am not a hater or supporter of Mr. Luna. I wonder (as was discussed behind the scenes) if putting the proof out here for all to see would appease everyone who has an "opinion" against the young woman? Personally, I think not.. I'm deeply saddened by this whole situation. I do not understand why it has come to this. 1 MizzouGirl reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mimimcd 46 Posted July 5, 2013 I must say I am not a hater or supporter of Mr. Luna. I wonder (as was discussed behind the scenes) if putting the proof out here for all to see would appease everyone who has an "opinion" against the young woman? Personally' date=' I think not.. I'm deeply saddened by this whole situation.I do not understand why it has come to this.[/quote'] Are u a patient of Dr Garcia ?? If so did you have a bad experience with Dr Luna?? I personally had a good experience and he was friendly but I would never have read anything into it .. He helped my whole group out and treated us all well. I am not saying he isnt capable i dont know him that well . If I was called to court due to my experience I would be a witness for him cause I have not one bad thing to say about him !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted July 5, 2013 Many people have a great experiences with Garcia and his team! And I'm sure many more will in the future. Although I have to say the foulness of this bickering (no matter what side you are on) is not helping him or anyone else to move on.. Things happen. Luna made some mistakes. he got caught. It does not take away from your Great experience and its ok that you liked him as a Person a lot of People did.. People do unethical things in Mexico and the USA (and elsewhere for that matter) it is how the medical practice deals with it that really counts. 1 Kristina J. reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mimimcd 46 Posted July 5, 2013 Just curious were u a patient of Dr Garcia ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolanz 1,484 Posted July 5, 2013 Are u a patient of Dr Garcia ?? If so did you have a bad experience with Dr Luna?? I personally had a good experience and he was friendly but I would never have read anything into it .. He helped my whole group out and treated us all well. I am not saying he isnt capable i dont know him that well . If I was called to court due to my experience I would be a witness for him cause I have not one bad thing to say about him !!! You have to understand your experience with him doesn't mean anything, right? I mean there are people who have been married to serial killers and had no idea they were capable of such acts. Priests molesting children ....it's shocking but anything is possible. Don't be so naive. I'm sure most of the time he's professional but he crossed the line this time. No one is calling him a monster, but his job is to care for his patients. Not sleep with them!......Right? 2 Kristina J. and NoneYa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mimimcd 46 Posted July 5, 2013 I am entitled to my opinion of him just like u are but I am far from naive !!! If there was a relationship that should of been handled somewhere other than here .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted July 5, 2013 Just curious were u a patient of Dr Garcia ??? When you write "u" I'm assuming you mean "you" in which this case I think you mean me? No I am not a patient.. Which is why I have not given any personal recommendations about him (Garcia) But I am not trying to harm his practice either. Which is what I think all the unnecessary verbal attacks are doing. 3 MizzouGirl, amytug and Kristina J. reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolanz 1,484 Posted July 5, 2013 I'm not saying you aren't entitled to an opinion at all. I'm saying you would never be asked to back him up in court (or anywhere for that matter) because your experience has nothing to do with everyone else's experience. Thinking he is not capable of crossing the line with his patient because he didn't with you is naive. 1 buffygirl reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites