BIG FAT PEOPLE!

[No game 14,437]

I thought about that the other day ( a touchy subject so I tread lightly here)

If someone comes into this surgery and eats hardly anything how would making the stomach smaller help???

But yet I see it again and again here, people that don't eat much and eat healthy get the surgery and drop huge amounts of weight!!

Riddle me this???

Scientific explanations anyone?

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Scientific explanation, no treading lightly as I am far too fat still:

DENIAL.

[No game 14,437]

Scientific explanation' date=' no treading lightly as I am far too fat still:

DENIAL.[/quote']

Shall we say a bull in a china shop??

[JamiO 52]

I would say I am have an addiction with food or eating or more honestly the feeling I get when I crave something and then actually eat it. I am addicted to feeling content and full in more ways than just in my stomach.

It is something I will be seeing a counselor for to get to the bottom of because I kind of know where it comes from but I need some help to get to the point where I have enough self control to keep everything in check.

I know I had a hard time admitting I was an addict because I would sit down with people like my mom who weighs 135 pounds and she would out eat me everytime. But then I was honest and realized she may eat that way occasionally and I was doing it everyday for dinner.

I know one of my mains problems was that as a teacher I usually don't eat Breakfast, eat a bite of lunch, and then by the time I get home for dinner I chow down!! So my goal for when I go back to work in August is to really monitor my eating habits and make sure I am getting in breakfast and lunch. I will need the fuel.

[Butterthebean 8,146]

There have been some studies that demonstrate the hormonal benefits to WLS. We all talk about the gherlin hormone but that's not the only hormone affected and hunger isn't the only thing affected by gherlin. I had a link to a great study where they basically did VSG on mice to study the hormonal effects and it was very interesting. Can't find it at the moment.

Suffice it to say that there is something to the theory of "metabolic reset" immediately after WLS, doctors just aren't 100% sure how it works, but observational data keeps demonstrating it. For example, look how many diabetics are able to give up insulin treatments almost immediately after surgery....before the massive weight is lost and the blood glucose systems have had time to correct themselves.

[No game 14,437]

I understand the nighttime eating to this day it's the comfort of the night time meals that are still my biggest challenge.. Yes therapy most definitely helps and having open and honest conversations about it with those closes to me. So that when I'm having those feelings I can talk to someone.

[No game 14,437]

There have been some studies that demonstrate the hormonal benefits to WLS. We all talk about the gherlin hormone but that's not the only hormone affected and hunger isn't the only thing affected by gherlin. I had a link to a great study where they basically did VSG on mice to study the hormonal effects and it was very interesting. Can't find it at the moment.

Suffice it to say that there is something to the theory of "metabolic reset" immediately after WLS' date=' doctors just aren't 100% sure how it works, but observational data keeps demonstrating it. For example, look how many diabetics are able to give up insulin treatments almost immediately after surgery....before the massive weight is lost and the blood glucose systems have had time to correct themselves.

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I think that's on this forum it was reprinted by Alex... Interesting yes, but perhaps only part of the explanation for some...

[No game 14,437]

Lol I just looked for the study and I learned Alex LOVES mice research articles

[Butterthebean 8,146]

I think that's on this forum it was reprinted by Alex... Interesting yes' date=' but perhaps only part of the explanation for some...[/quote']

Oh no doubt. Denial is a powerful coping mechanism. And when you're in it....you are the last one to see it.

[No game 14,437]

Yes like my denial of my big ass on the couch right now when I should be moving!!

On that note talk later guys!!

[Fiddleman 4,376]

There have been some studies that demonstrate the hormonal benefits to WLS. We all talk about the gherlin hormone but that's not the only hormone affected and hunger isn't the only thing affected by gherlin. I had a link to a great study where they basically did VSG on mice to study the hormonal effects and it was very interesting. Can't find it at the moment.

Suffice it to say that there is something to the theory of "metabolic reset" immediately after WLS' date=' doctors just aren't 100% sure how it works, but observational data keeps demonstrating it. For example, look how many diabetics are able to give up insulin treatments almost immediately after surgery....before the massive weight is lost and the blood glucose systems have had time to correct themselves.

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I am guessing this is the whole reason behind the honeymoon period and following weight gain. Eating next to nothing (600-800 calories) will work VERY well for months following surgery until your body wises up and becomes ultra efficient at starving on low calorie (aka TDEE drops to match very low BMR after eating low calorie for 6 months). Once your body hits this extreme point of calorie burning efficiency, you are essentially screwed if you do not take corrective action and start slowly adjusting calorie intake back up to a healthy TDEE and BMR while also adding a moderate amount of exercise. The reason, of course, is that you can do only so much to outsmart your BMR while dieting on super low calorie . I am not saying that a post honeymoon period WLS patient will eat 100 a day in order to outsmart the BMR, but if they did, their calorie intake would essentially win them a Darwin Award. I know my words are a little melodramatic, but that is essentially why it is important to make changes slowly back into healthy calorie amounts and exercise as you transition from WLS honeymoon stage to the maintain stage in order to not fall into the trap of gaining back weight 2,3,5 years down the road when your BMR is so slow and your TDEE is so low that thinking about food causes weight gain. You do not want this problem, trust me. Not to mention your body will ache and illness will form due to lack of nutrition long term. Just my understanding of it in typical bro-science speak. You can agree or disagree. Your feedback is welcome.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

Shall we say a bull in a china shop??

But no bullschmidt included.

[NtvTxn 1,262]

I don't know how to answer this because I'd initially say I am not a food addict but of course I got fat for no other reason than I like food. Portions, way too much, or at least way more than I needed. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that there are some who are having such a hard time, and I am not, because I know me and if not for having 85% of my stomach removed, and whatever hunger hormone went with it, I'd not have the will power to do what I need to do. Ok, that is what I think, but I am not sure what reality is. What does it feel like to be a food addict?!!!!

[Ms skinniness 3,003]

I have a friend who consistently tells me she's doesn't eat much and she continues to put weight on.....

I do know that she eats a lot of carbs and unhealthy types of food.......

Is this scientific enough? A case study of 1. LOL

People might not eat much, but it's the type of food that they are most likely eating. Basically crap in my book.

I like to eat organic as much as possible and cut out processed foods.

[TES 858]

Lol I just looked for the study and I learned Alex LOVES mice research articles

This was also demonstrated in people, in the STAMPEDE trial performed at Cleveland Clinic....