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So I decided to try an experiment and eat more calories for a few days in a row to see if maybe I was in "starvation mode" or whatever. Promptly gained back the 2 lbs that I lost last week. Swell. I am SOOOOOO discouraged right now.

Well, back down to the basement to help hubby.

Sorry that your experiment didn't go well.:cursing: It seems I am having the opposite problem. Yesterday I said SCREW IT!! and ate when I was hungry, anything I felt like (I actually had a frosty too) So I weigh myself this morning and I have lost a pound. Maybe my body needs more calories. All week I was trying so hard to limit them to 800-1200 and was starving all the time(I need another fill but can't afford one yet :embaressed_smile: ) So i KNOW I went over that yesterday and BAM! I'm down one more. Wish I had known this first thing!

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Sorry that your experiment didn't go well.:cursing: It seems I am having the opposite problem. Yesterday I said SCREW IT!! and ate when I was hungry, anything I felt like (I actually had a frosty too) So I weigh myself this morning and I have lost a pound. Maybe my body needs more calories. All week I was trying so hard to limit them to 800-1200 and was starving all the time(I need another fill but can't afford one yet :embaressed_smile: ) So i KNOW I went over that yesterday and BAM! I'm down one more. Wish I had known this first thing!

That's awesome!!! Maybe that's what I need . . . a Frosty! I"ve been craving one like crazy!

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No cancer!

Yay!!!!!!!!:tt2::sneaky:

We have 3 acres at Crooked River Ranch which is between Madras and Redmond. Have views of 10 mountains: from Jefferson to Bachelor. Love it there!

I know exactly where that is. :lol: My brother lives in Bend. Love it over there. There is so much to do and see. You are SO lucky to be able to live in such a gorgeous place! :smile2:

We live in Portland, but go to central Oregon once a month for a few days.

Tonight we had my daughters birthday party. She is the most beautiful girl in the world...see below for proof!:smile2:

So, let's all focus on her face...forget about the mammograms, the colon surgeries, the broken puppies, the ex-husbands, the bad neighbors, the BAD nurses, the costs of fills, being on-call (and even though I'M not, my husband is and that's just as bad), not losing a lb. this week, non-existent libido, cravings, hurt arms, etc. (because I just can't remember ALL the issues we have going on here) and just enjoy what God put on this earth...little princesses!!:wub:

Beautiful little girl!

Mini: I am riding the same train you are: gained 4 lbs since yesterday!:girl_hug::thumbs_down::sad::sad::biggrin: I have been mixing up caloric intake from 400 to 1200 calories a day. I am getting so discouraged. Hopefully, my first fill on Tuesday will help. It will, won't it??? Please tell me yes:crying:

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That's awesome!!! Maybe that's what I need . . . a Frosty! I"ve been craving one like crazy!

Wouldn't it be nice if frostys were the cure for obesity? THough I don't do this all the time, it was VERY nice last night.

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Chiming in re: stuff. I can't wait until we move forward with the motor home plan and get rid of all our stuff. It has taken over our lives. Seriously.

I didn't realize how bad it was until we built our "treehouse". It doesn't have stuff in it . . . just what we need to get by. And it's absolutely fine. It will be awesome to just get the "stuff" monkey off my back. My whole paycheck goes to supporting our house and our stuff. Yikes.

So I decided to try an experiment and eat more calories for a few days in a row to see if maybe I was in "starvation mode" or whatever. Promptly gained back the 2 lbs that I lost last week. Swell. I am SOOOOOO discouraged right now.

Well, back down to the basement to help hubby.

I can't figure it all out either Mini! It's frustrating! I started the BFL last week and just lost that .8 lbs. Then this morning I lost 3 lbs. Today is my free day and I'm trying to not overeat. With the band, you can't, but I'm trying to make better choices. I ate 1/2 burger at cheeburger cheeburger and a few onion rings, then came home and had 2 bites of cherry pie, 1 bite of a chocolate brownie. for dinner tonight, I had 2 small pieces of fish and about 5 fries. I am stuffed.

Oh, I also had a few bites of ice cream from Cold Stone. My fave is the German Choc Cake. I hope I don't gain tomorrow. I know it was supposed to be a free day from working out, but I hired a trainer! Yes me! A personal trainer for 5 sessions. I couldn't meet her until Wednesday so I decided to meet her today. She is so tiny! She probably weighs 70lbs and she's like 4-10 or shorter. But she's mighty! She did the caliper test and I am 43% fat! ARGH! I wonder what I was before I lost the 105lbs! Can you imagine? Acceptable range is 31%. I've got a way to go.

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I can't figure it all out either Mini! It's frustrating! I started the BFL last week and just lost that .8 lbs. Then this morning I lost 3 lbs. Today is my free day and I'm trying to not overeat. With the band, you can't, but I'm trying to make better choices. I ate 1/2 burger at cheeburger cheeburger and a few onion rings, then came home and had 2 bites of cherry pie, 1 bite of a chocolate brownie. for dinner tonight, I had 2 small pieces of fish and about 5 fries. I am stuffed.

Oh, I also had a few bites of ice cream from Cold Stone. My fave is the German Choc Cake. I hope I don't gain tomorrow. I know it was supposed to be a free day from working out, but I hired a trainer! Yes me! A personal trainer for 5 sessions. I couldn't meet her until Wednesday so I decided to meet her today. She is so tiny! She probably weighs 70lbs and she's like 4-10 or shorter. But she's mighty! She did the caliper test and I am 43% fat! ARGH! I wonder what I was before I lost the 105lbs! Can you imagine? Acceptable range is 31%. I've got a way to go.

Oh damn. I want a bite of ice cream. I want a cheeseburger. I want a brownie. That all sounds amazing.

According to my fancy dancy electronic scale, I'm 55% fat. So here's the deal miss dee . . . If you have 57% bone and muscle,etc. in your body and you never build even one more ounce of muscle, your ideal weight should be 57% of what you weigh right now plus another 31% of that. For me, for example, 45% of my 195 lbs is bone and muscle,etc. . . . so approx 88 lbs. Let's say I wanted to be at 31% body fat. So another 30ish lbs would put me at a total of 118. So because my frame is really small and I have basically no muscle, I need to lose a LOT or build a TON of muscle to get down to a decent level of body fat. YOU on the other hand, are well on your way!! You should be really proud of yourself.

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Yay!!!!!!!!:smile2::sneaky:

We live in Portland, but go to central Oregon once a month for a few days.

Beautiful little girl!

Mini: I am riding the same train you are: gained 4 lbs since yesterday!:girl_hug::thumbs_down::smile2::sad::biggrin: I have been mixing up caloric intake from 400 to 1200 calories a day. I am getting so discouraged. Hopefully, my first fill on Tuesday will help. It will, won't it??? Please tell me yes:crying:

It will fosho!!!

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Wouldn't it be nice if frostys were the cure for obesity? THough I don't do this all the time, it was VERY nice last night.

it would be the best best best.

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If you girls want it, eat it. Seriously. Get the cravings out of your head so that you can move on.

I am down 80 pounds and have not deprived myself once.

Eat up and move on!!

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Oh damn. I want a bite of ice cream. I want a cheeseburger. I want a brownie. That all sounds amazing.

According to my fancy dancy electronic scale, I'm 55% fat. So here's the deal miss dee . . . If you have 57% bone and muscle,etc. in your body and you never build even one more ounce of muscle, your ideal weight should be 57% of what you weigh right now plus another 31% of that. For me, for example, 45% of my 195 lbs is bone and muscle,etc. . . . so approx 88 lbs. Let's say I wanted to be at 31% body fat. So another 30ish lbs would put me at a total of 118. So because my frame is really small and I have basically no muscle, I need to lose a LOT or build a TON of muscle to get down to a decent level of body fat. YOU on the other hand, are well on your way!! You should be really proud of yourself.

So in other words, I should weight around 199. You're pretty smart Mini! I have a feeling that you got the Math gene!!! I figured out my daughter's too! Her fat % is 32%. She's almost there!

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If you girls want it, eat it. Seriously. Get the cravings out of your head so that you can move on.

I am down 80 pounds and have not deprived myself once.

Eat up and move on!!

I agree! A bite is usually what does it for me! If I can just have a taste of something, I'm usually good and the craving is gone. I've purchased an entire piece of cheesecake - taken one bite and drown the rest in the sink!

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If you girls want it, eat it. Seriously. Get the cravings out of your head so that you can move on.

I am down 80 pounds and have not deprived myself once.

Eat up and move on!!

Brandy,

How is your port feeling? Do you think that happened while you were do some lifting for your abs?

Any solution to this problem?

How is your Hubby doing?

I am so glad things turned out well with the test results!

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According to my fancy dancy electronic scale, I'm 55% fat. So here's the deal miss dee . . . If you have 57% bone and muscle,etc. in your body and you never build even one more ounce of muscle, your ideal weight should be 57% of what you weigh right now plus another 31% of that. For me, for example, 45% of my 195 lbs is bone and muscle,etc. . . . so approx 88 lbs. Let's say I wanted to be at 31% body fat. So another 30ish lbs would put me at a total of 118. So because my frame is really small and I have basically no muscle, I need to lose a LOT or build a TON of muscle to get down to a decent level of body fat. YOU on the other hand, are well on your way!! You should be really proud of yourself.

OK I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're saying here, and I'm going cross-eyed. Can you explain how to do the math again? Or, can you do mine??? :girl_hug: Now, granted my scale is going to be way off, because it's late and I've had ice cream AND macaroni and cheese today. But hey, it's a start. And if you tell me how to do the math, then when I get a more accurate weight and fat % in the morning, then I can do it on my own tomorrow. I'm currently 258lbs and it says 55% body fat. Oh god, I've gained at least 10lbs in the last 3 weeks since I made my appointment with Dr. K.

OK do the math Mini. I'm gonna go cry. :biggrin:

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I agree! A bite is usually what does it for me! If I can just have a taste of something, I'm usually good and the craving is gone. I've purchased an entire piece of cheesecake - taken one bite and drown the rest in the sink!

You know Dee, a year ago you'd probably have purchased the whole cheesecake, and not just a slice. Am I right? Is cheesecake not, like, better than sex???? :girl_hug: But seriously, way to go buying only one slice. I look forward to the drastic change in my appetite. Why oh why can't I just get banded tomorrow????

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Both Dr. K and Tom think that I pulled a stitch out of my port and ripped some muscle away with it. They said it wouldn't be erosion or a slip because I still have good restriction without refluxing or throwing up. So, I think that I will take it easy with the ab work awhile and once it is feeling better, start up slowly again. I haven't been to the gym since Tuesday and the pain is slowly disappearing. The weird thing was that it was in my back as well. I think I will try to go again on Wednesday.

Hubby is good, great actually. He came home early this evening. I am shocked. But better than the hospital. He will do much better at home. Were just taking it easy and trying to keep 4 kids as calm as we can. HA!

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