fyre_storm 1,412 Posted March 9, 2013 Yeah nobody jumps on you and your the biggest **** stirrer around here! I mean I practically **** rainbows and unicorns! I mean I'm the champion of the "newbies" and what's my payback I get called a mean veteran !!! I feel dirty <img src='http://www.bariatricpal.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Because I speak the truth! And you steal men! Ha!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Dean* 1,594 Posted March 9, 2013 Omg I was biting my tongue. I was going to say "I'm mates with a gay guy with a sharp tongue. Don't make me bring him in here!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fyre_storm 1,412 Posted March 9, 2013 Lol dean. I just hate when ppl are being mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newgrandmother 725 Posted March 9, 2013 laura im following you i need a drink lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted March 9, 2013 laura im following you i need a drink lol I think I do too! I'm still not sure what happened here.... 0_o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newgrandmother 725 Posted March 9, 2013 me either, i thought we had beef lol i got lost man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No game 14,437 Posted March 9, 2013 me either' date=' i thought we had beef lol i got lost man[/quote'] NO!! You and I?? No way! girl we are all here just trying to get "unfat" and stay as happy as we possibly can... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMO 193 Posted March 9, 2013 I am with you, Dean. The conflict still escapes me. I've been back and re read the thread. I still can't see why anyone would have such an issue with it. I assume it's issues outside of here. If anyone wants to message me for a hug ........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris R 217 Posted March 9, 2013 webblarsk - I thought you said you were 'done' a few posts back... please let it go. I'm pretty sure I know which post you initially got upset about, but I honestly think it was a matter of how you read it, NOT how it was intended. I, too, am only a few weeks out, and I didn't read it as an insult to those in that position at all. The poster was simply pointing out that how we eat can change as we get farther out from surgery, so that there could be a lot of difference in what someone was saying about diet based on how far out from surgery they are. Please remember that we don't have the cues of facial expression and tone of voice on here that we have when speaking face-to-face, so it's important to give people the benefit of the doubt and to try not to take offense when reading posts, when it's entirely possible that it was not in the least meant to offend. Let there be peace! PLEASE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*susan* 1,709 Posted March 9, 2013 I think the best thing to do, is if you feel someone is being inappropriate or violating our rules, then hit the report button and let myself, Alex, or OTR make the decision as to whether or not they are out of line. If they are, we will address it. It is important to remember, you are on a forum with literally thousands of members and thousands of different personalities. Not everyone is going to get along, not everyone is going to agree with what everyone else says. It is how we handle those disagreements and conflicts that counts. You can either choose to debate in an adult manner, posting concise statements as to why you disagree with their theory and adding what you consider to be solid proof as to why you believe your way is the better way to go; or you can argue like children, bickering back and forth until the thread is no longer what the original poster had intended it to be, but has instead derailed to a bunch of people attacking one another and not getting anywhere as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerendipityHappens 1,594 Posted March 9, 2013 Honestly, I think everyone is different. You need to find what works for you and your body and go with it. I am four years out. For the first year, I lived on 800 calories a day. Then, I maxed out at around 1200 a day. For the past eight months, I have been battling with gaining and losing the same three pounds. I was so sick of it. I had no energy and generally just didn't feel too great. My fiancé is a nutritionist and a personal trainer. For two years he has been preaching to me that eating so few calories for the the first few months of the weight loss phase was one thing, but that it wasn't healthy to maintain that few calories long term. He kept insisting I needed to eat more in order to lose weight. Like another poster said, he told me I wasn't losing weight anymore because my metabolism was so incredibly messed up. My body had gotten used to the fact that I was starving it, so my metabolism slowed way down to compensate for it and my body started storing fat. About six weeks ago I decided to give his method a try. We figured out my base TTDE based on my age, weight, height and activity level. Just for my body to do nothing but lie in bed all day and do nothing but breath, I would need to eat a baseline of 1950 calories a day! So, we moved forward to "reset" my metabolism. I now eat about every two hours. I don't eat junk, I eat high Protein, healthy foods. The first few weeks, I gained between one and two pounds per week. I was in panic mode. I was terrified of eating this way, I just knew I was going to end up fat again. But, I promised him I would try it his way and would give it eight weeks. He warned me that I would probably gain weight at first, he said my body was going to take all those extra calories and hold onto them, because it isn't used to my actually fueling it like I should. But he promised if I stuck with it, I would get past the gain stage, and my metabolism would pick up again. Well, I finally stopped gaining and was maintaining. Next, he dropped me to 1750 calories a day, and if I exercise, I would eat those calories back. Guess what, it is working! I am now back to losing one to two pounds a week again and couldn't be happier. I have more energy and feel better than I have in two years. So, I do believe we need to keep our bodies fueled. I have done a lot of research on this in the past few weeks, along with finally listening to my own personal nutritionist/fiancé. I have a healthy Breakfast, then a couple hours later I will have a Protein Bar. I eat a healthy lunch. In the afternoon I snack on fruits, cheese, Protein Bars, nuts, beef Jerky, whatever strikes my fancy. I have a healthy dinner and, usually a snack about two hours before bedtime. My body has responded well to fueling it every few hours and I am a believer now. Just wish I would have listened to him two years ago! Sent from my iPad using VST BEST POST EVER!!! THANK YOU!!!!! and thank your man too! I know I am already damaged goods metabolically speaking and this surgery is not going to help any.. but I am a firm believe that metabolic slow down is temporary and can be fixed by this very method you ountlined if you are patient and meticulous about your diet. THANKYOU for showing us that it can work in practice! Edited to add: and I KNOW I'll never be able to get up to a normal metabolic rate because I have other issues that are affecting my metabolism, but I am confident that I can reverse whatever metabolic slow down that I get from eating so low calories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lessofmeismore 1,405 Posted March 9, 2013 Maybe you are right. In the real world adults address each other and do not run away to report the other adult but the forum rules are as such so I apologize for not reporting and instead addressing the poster and her remarks. It will not happen again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimmy1813 77 Posted March 11, 2013 Was anyone else told to follow this for the long haul? I was reviewing my bariatric surgery binder and noticed that stage IV (final stage) states to eat three meals a day, spaced out 3-4 hours from each other, without snacking in between. I'm sure it's the old fat girl in me that finds this to sounds difficult. Are you guys able to carry on throughout your day without having food outside of your three standard meals? (When I say Snacks, I don't mean chips and candy... I mean nuts or cheese...) You referred to your bariatric surgery binder...I was wondering if this is something the dr's office gave you and if so, when did they give it to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimikat3 150 Posted March 11, 2013 You referred to your bariatric surgery binder...I was wondering if this is something the dr's office gave you and if so' date=' when did they give it to you?[/quote'] I'm sure it varies form doctor to doctor, but I got mine the day of orientation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites