Can't take any more

[susy.a 0]

Sorry I meant to tell you that I will pray for you, try to keep your head up , I know that after wanting something so bad, you have certain expectations , and if it turns out not the way you think it should..well it can be crushing, I am pretty sure you have been a victim of poor advice /medical care from your dr. I'm sure your grateful to him for getting your surgery done without killing you , and feeling so good afterwards, but aftercare , fills, etc, are just as important, you should not have had to go through all you have, your dr. should of immedietly unfilled you when he heard of the vomiting etc, good grief!! If he was qualified to do the surgery he should know the symptoms of overfill!! Please keep your mental health appts. try try try to find a new doc. it would probably make all the difference . good luck and love to you.

[DevilMayKare 1]

No matter how hard i struggle to get my head around it and adjust to i can't. I am constantly hungry i was told the band would make me feel full and i would feel the need to stop eating sooner. That just does not happen i feel my restriction but i do not feel full or satisfied.

Oh Muggle,

I am so sorry to hear about your struggle. You are far from alone in your experience with the band (the failure of it, specifically). There are many of us. Unfortunately we don't hang out much here. At least I don't. It seems to work for some people and I don't want to rain on anyone's parade or discourage someone from something that might be their big hope. This never feeling full was a surprise to me also. I'm not at the same depressive place you are, but it's not hard at all for me to imagine.

My heart goes out to you.

[ted12345 0]

Thank you all so much for your support, I have seen my psyciatrist and she had said she cannot see a improvment happening with my depression untill i lose weight.

My surgeon had emailed me and said he wants to speak to my psyciatrist as he does not want to make a isolated decison about revison. I think he wants to check i am emotionally stable enough to understand the implications of a revison and to handle more surgery.

My psyciatrist said she will fully support the decison to goahead with more surgery to revise this band to another form of WLS DS or RNY i am not sure.

Its been a very long time too since i hang out here i felt thurily assaullted last time i expresses my difficulties in fact i think last time i came here was when i had my pnumonia and i was then made to feel like the problems i was hing were down to me "not working with my band" I have 2 1/2 mills in a 9mill swedish band i dont mind a total unfil but this would be the second time in 2 19 months that i would need to do that just to get better surly i cant keep revolving around like this.

i dont want to say the band is no good i know people who have done great with the band. But i have had nothing but problems i also know people who experience the same as me and people who do great then 2 or 3 years down the rd there having problems and thats why so many surgeons are stop doing it. Long term the more these bands are being done the more we are seing faliours and reops. A 30% faliour rate is terrable and thats only the people who do go on to have revisonal surgery what about the people who cant afford more surgery or have been totally put off more WLS purly because of there band experiences.

I find that bandsters who do great are the worst for understanding its like no matter what you say its my fault and not the band they seem totally unwilling to accept the band can fail or be problematic, And they can leave you feeling really band they offer suggestions to try as if you have not tried and exausted everything before reaching this point of dispare. I have had other bandtsers call me lazy and acused me of sabotage its terable the things that are said its just all been too much. If i could work this i would i am almost 2 years post op why would i sabotage my band if it had worked i could have been at normal BMI by now why would i want to deliberatly not help myself its beyond me just trully how cruel some people can and have been.

But for those here thank you for your support it has helped lift my spirits. xx

[vinesqueen 2]

(((((hugs))))) I agree, you need a complete unfill. This will make a huge difference in the way you feel.

If you cannot lose weight on a low calorie diet, if you cannot lose weight with the band, then it is time to look for a different reason.

I did everything I could to lose weight with my band. EVERYTHING. I became seriously depressed, but I started to demand answers from my doctors.

It hasn't been an easy battle for me. It hasn't been easy to not lose weight, yet again. I was devistated, absolutly devisated when I couldn't lose weight. Even when I was too tight, I couldn't lose weight.

But I pushed for answers. There had to be an answer why I wasn't losing weight, for me that answer is Cushing's. Not a happy disease and not something that will be easily cured, but at least now I know why no matter what I cannot lose weight.

Please, please, please take care, and get the emotional help you need and deserve.

I'm so sorry you were too tight for too long, that is just plain cruel.

But after you get your depression addressed, please start pushing for answers why you cannot lose weight. Do NOT let them give you a BS diagnosis of "Metabolic X" it's a cop-out.

Please feel free to PM me if you need to.

[ted12345 0]

I know for a fact i dont have cushings, isnt there other caricturistics of cushings other than just excess weight?

I had a whole lode of blood tests pre op when i was under the weight management clinic and i was tested for cushings.

I can lose weight and have its mainting weight loss iv found hard. I cant seem to shift any weight with this band because i cant keep any solid food down and i am consuming what i can rather than what i should.

Its gone too far now i have decided i just want it out full stop its horrendus living like this. Even if i have my band unfilled and have a rest period that would be the second time in 19 months i would have had to do that and as soon as i get restricted again im having the same old problems thats not what i had the band for i had the band to aid weight loss not make me pysically and emotionally ill.

No its the end of the Rd with me im afraid even my psyciatrist has said she cannot see my depression lifing while i am living like this this is the reason i am depressed and this needs to be fixed before my depression will begin to lift. She is prepared to do a psyciatric report for me if my surgeon requests it.

[Amy* 5]

Hi Muggle,

like you, I have experienced depression associated with my weight.

It's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel when your mental state is so closely linked to something over which you currently feel you have no control. Like almost everyone here, my advice is to tackle your problems one at a time. Even though they are closely related, it is less overwhelming to tackle each problem one by one, rather than all at once.

Why should you have to go through therapy at the same time as barely being able to eat?? Doesn't the hunger just remind you of how down you are?? Surely having an unfill will enable you to start making those healthy choices you've mentioned, plus you'll actually be able to keep some food down

Don't even worry about having another refill down the track, just concentrate on getting through the next little while as easily as possible, without the stress of not knowing whether you'll be able to keep your eggs down.

I truly feel for you, it's never easy having health problems drag out for so long.

Baby steps are always easier

[marys 2]

Muggles and Kare,

I too share your frustration and have had my share of depression too over my failure with/having the band. It is a very lonely place - no matter how much support we receive - it is hard to read and hear of so many others success when we struggle so much. IMO an unfill will give you some relief and time to decide if you want the band removed. I have thought about starting a yahoo group for those of us who have not had success with the band - surely there are many more that don't post - yes, there is much support/help/encouragement here but it is hard to come here as I once did because it tends to make me feel worse about my situation. What do you think?

[ted12345 0]

I think well actually know the band has huge long term complication rate it has the worse of all the surgerys results and re op rate long term. I agree there must be more of us i however find yahoo diffcult to use the constat re

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[taylor.karen 0]

I know exactly how you are feeling right now, and although this may be little consolation to you, I had my first band fitted by Dr Super in April 2005 and have had nothing but problems too.<?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype class=inlineimg id=_x0000_t75 title="" smilieid="59" stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" alt="" src="images/smilies/silly.gif" border="0" o<img></v:shapetype>referrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><V:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></V:path>ffice:office" /><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com</o:lock><v:shape id=_x0000_i1025 style="WIDTH: 12pt; HEIGHT: 12pt" alt="0" type="#_x0000_t75"><v:imagedata o:href="http://www.lapbandtalk.com/images/smilies/depressed.gif" src="file:///C:DOCUME~1JACKIE~1LOCALS~1Tempmsohtml101clip_image001.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape><O:p></O:p>

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First I had no restriction what so ever, and after the 12/13 weeks of liquids, then mashed food then introducing normal food again, I had a fill under X-Ray where I had I think 1.5-2ml inserted. Went home and nothing, no difference at all. All of a sudden I was in horrific pain (lower abdomen), and my consultant (not surgeon) kept saying that it was nothing to do with the band. I was also told that I was being impatient as I still had no weight loss or restriction.<O:p></O:p>

Things got so bad for me that I couldn't even walk 100yrds without this pain, to try and sit on a seat or to lay down was horrendous and in the end I went to my Dr for advice. I was then sent for numerous internal tests, x-rays, and lots of fumbling around to see if there wasn't anything more serious wrong with me, everything came back normal, but each test was so painful I was in tears.<v:shape id=_x0000_i1026 style="WIDTH: 16.5pt; HEIGHT: 16.5pt" alt="0" type="#_x0000_t75"> <v:imagedata o:href="http://www.lapbandtalk.com/images/smilies/cry.gif" src="file:///C:DOCUME~1JACKIE~1LOCALS~1Tempmsohtml101clip_image002.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape><O:p></O:p>

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Again, I contacted my consultant and was told the same thing but finally they arranged for a top-up in October. Mean while I was still in horrific pain and was having lots of time off work which resulted in a loss of pay. Went along for my top-up and it was then discovered that the tubing couldn't be located. All this time of being in pain and no one listening to me and I was then told this.<O:p></O:p>

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Back into hospital on 5th Nov 05 to have an exploratory op, relocate the tube and reconnect it. My parents and I were then told that the tubing was located wrapped around my intestines, hence the horrific pain for the past 4 months and that once connected and <O:p></O:p>

Anyway, due to the tube disconnection I had no liquid in my band at all, and eventually went back for another fill (like a first fill as it was completely empty).<O:p></O:p>

Still nothing, and once again I was told that I was being impatient. <O:p></O:p>

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Went along for another fill in Feb 06 (my consultant was also present) and bingo, was then told by the guy doing my fill and my consultant that the reason for me having no restriction etc was due to the band being fitted too high, and that this has been seen before. <O:p></O:p>

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Back into hospital again on 3rd March 06 for a complete new band to be fitted, then the usual liquid, mashed and then re-introduction of normal food again for up to 12 weeks, and during this time went on holiday which had been booked 11 months before. So yes, my holiday was ruined as a result of this. <O:p></O:p>

Got back to the ffice:smarttags" /><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<ST1:place w:st="on">UK</ST1:place></st1:country-region> and went for my first fill with my new 2nd band, and again was told that I couldn't have it done as the port was completely over turned, not on its side as this can happed, but completely flipped over. Again my consultant and surgeon kept saying to me that they didn't know why this had happened, so back of into hospital again to have a new port fitted in May 06. <O:p></O:p>

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Since then I have had numerous fills (now have 6.5ml in the band) and still have no restriction at all. I have put all the weight back on that I managed to loose before my first op on the 800 cals a day diet. Feel completely shattered and have no faith in my consultant, his team, or the surgeon.<O:p></O:p>

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I have now been informed that they can not continue to fill my band as there must be a structural problem with the band, and that it will more than likely have to be removed. What is even more worse is that I have been told that although the surgeon will take it out free of charge I will have to pay hospital costs (about £2000) of which I do not have. I have already had to borrow the £7600 for the original op and on top of that I have paid out about £300 in traveling costs, loss of earning and added stress all due to wanting to loose weight and have a better life. <O:p></O:p>

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My consultant has now arranged for me to have tests under x-ray this Thursday in central <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:place w:st="on">Birmingham</ST1:place></st1:City>, to see what is wrong (the guy doing this has agreed to do this under the NHS). If it turns out that it is an aneurism then the manufacturers have verbally agreed to pay the full costs of surgery and treatment, with a replacement. Not sure I want a replacement after all of this. <O:p></O:p>

However, if it isn't this and turns out to be and erosion or something else, then I still have to foot the hospital costs. (I have explained that this is not an option for me, so will end up with a foreign object left inside my body that is doing nothing for me, but will more than likely end up more harm).<O:p></O:p>

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I am now at the end of my tether and completely understand how you feel. I have been told to go for a 2<SUP>nd</SUP> opinion as well, but it always ends up with the same old obstruction – I can’t afford to pay to see another consultant or surgeon.<O:p></O:p>

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I really do hope you manage to get this sorted out soon, but if you feel like letting of steam, send me an email, anytime.<O:p></O:p>

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[bkgrandma 0]

I've been reading this off and on for a couple of hours and feel so sad that people are experiencing this. I too have similar problems and made up my mind on Thanksgiving (23rd) that come Monday morning I'm going back to the doctor and have him take most of this saline if not all of it out. I had a episode that was the worst yet on the 23rd, just after drink 3 sips of Water with my meds. I was trying not to throw up because the meds could come back up and then I wouldn't know how much got into my system. I could have sworn I was having a heart attack. I couldn't breathe, my face turned beet red, my heart was pounding, my chest hurt, pain down my arm and my jaws were aching. When I finally threw up the water the pain finally subsided but my nervous system just went into high gear. I've sufferered from anxiety attacks for over 25 years which have been under control for a long time and they came back full force. They used to be caused by stress and fear over having a heart attack one day (related to my Dads death, too long to go into) and I thought I had finally beaten it but oh boy was I wrong. My system is still screwed up today. For months I haven't been able to eat meat, not too many vegetables, salads, so mostly nothing nutritious. I've written in before about my turning to my old friend and addiction to sweets, those at least can go down. 2 weeks ago I went to my doctor and he suggested I NOT have anything taken out of the band because it sounds to him like it's working and he wants me to see a psychriaist this coming week. I agreed to see one, I've been to several over the years without any help or success in helping me in my addiction so I figured whats one more try but after the other day I will not put myself or my nervous system through this again. I know if I lose some weight I'll probably live longer but to what degree, miserable, in pain all the time, not getting proper nutrition or Fluid intake, I don't think so. I feel so bad for yo Muggle that you got so bad and desperate that you tried to take your own life, it just isn't worth it. I promised God on the 23rd that if he could help me get through that episode that I would have this band loosened and try to become the woman he created me to be. I put all my worries on him and I pray he answers. I'm going to be 61 tomorrow, I've spent more than 50 years living in this fat body, taking put downs from doctors, other professionals, family, and strangers and I'm done. I tried this since September of 2005 and I'm tired. I haven't lost any weight, I have gained over the last couple of months so what good is it if I don't work with it and evidently something is keeping me from it or something is wrong and the doctors just haven't found it yet, I had to have the port replaced once because they poked it full of holes. I have 3 stints in my heart due to heart disease and will not go through life not knowing if I'm having heart attacks or band problems. It's enough to give you a nervous breakdown, I've had one and will not have another for anyone. Nothing is worth taking your life, nothing! Your doctors wife should be put to shame, I don't know how things are done medically in your country but I'd be out finding another doctor. I hope everything goes well for you and you can make some improvements on your own, thats what I'm going to have to do, rely on myself even though I've never been able to do it on my own, I'll never give up. Take care of yourself.

[ted12345 0]

I feel for you BKgrandma, I know what you mean you are very articulate about discribing the sensation of how it feel's when something is stuck,

Other bandsters can seem to have a band and lose no probs but i can't i am astonished they can eat meat, Pasta salad and i cant i cant manage any meat struggle with egg's sometimes anything fiberus in texture things i used to love like pineapple grapes, stodgy foods like banana just go down like a ton of bricks. I cant eat bread or toast. Soup makes me feel bloated and sick.

If i do as i am advised and eat solid food i throw it uo. I chew i even eat with a small spoon so i know my individual portions are not big. I do the protine first. I literally can only eat a bit or two and thats it i know if i eat more ill throw up. But if i stick to this after 4 or 5 days im ill week and irritable just feel so hungry, then i will eat something that i knows go's down just to feel satified if i dont eat ill faint i just know it.

And im told its a tool use it wisely i mean i try and use it wisely but its just not working the way i was told to expect it too work. I feel ashamed i cant keep at it the not snacking the will power not to eat the foods i shouldnt. For some people it just does not seem that hard they seem to be able to eat most things even a small meal. I can't and i feel so ashamed of my self its like im stopping myself from loseing weight. i keep hearing that just stick to the rules and it will work. But the rules are harder to stick to than any diet pre op at least pre op i could make healthy food choices.

Its a barbaric as electric shock treatment this band and pycologically its cause more damage than anything iv ever experienced, As a child my child abuse was not of my doing but this band and its sucess is solely down to me and i cant do it. Why in gods name would i sabotage myself like this and torture myself. How many times have i heard "god you cant even lose weight with surgery" and oh how much have you lost now, You can see these sheer glee that its not worked that im still fat its how they have always known me and im sure they couldnt bare it if i did succeed they would not have anything else to humiliate me with.

As a child being fat was my protection i was bulled because i was fat and i liked it that way. I would rather be bullied for than than have people tease mebecause i was in care because i didnt have a mum or dad. Because of many things people knew about me. they couldnt see past my weight and i was glad i could bare the digs about my fat legs but not when they said i wasnt loved not even your mum loves you. that i couldnt handle so i stayed big to protect myself from that.

And now i am 31 and i dont need to hide behind the weight i just want to lose it and be the real me rather than the scared timid me, And the same old feelings of rejection self hate and so all come flooding back with a vengence that i am failing with this. i know it sounds paranoid but i feel karma is at work that i had a crappy childhood because i was bad mum didnt want me cuz i was bad and now im fat cuz i was bad this is my punishment and this is how its gonne be no matter how i try and defete it.

See its screwing me up and deep down i feel the inner me is better than this better than them feeling better than what i beleve i am. But i cant let go while the anchour is still weighing me down the out side isnt reflecting what the inside feels. and while the outside stays like this its supressing my real me inside. God give me strenth because i know life can be good and i know life is worth living.

[bkgrandma 0]

From reading your response to my reply I think your a lot like me and neither one of us right now need to be dealing with this band. I thought it might be a God Send when I heard about it, I was so excited that I had finally heard of something that could help without putting my body through "major" surgery that I got right to it. I was through with all the "pre" work that had to be done and in surgery in 2 months. I just knew that this would stop me from overeating and I was naive enough to think that all the bad foods wouldn't go down good either. Not true. I can't eat 1/2 ounce of chicken but I could eat a half of a chocolate cake if I wanted to. I think that therapy "might" be able to help you if you want to give it a chance, your problems go a lot deeper than mine. I was verbablly abused by others in my childhood, teen and early adult years but never by other adults except the medical profession but my biggest heartache was from my father, I feel he was always ashamed of me buy hey, there's nothing I can do now, he's no longer living but the shame carries on forever. Do you really and truly think all of this will go away just because we are thinner, I truly doubt it. Some of us have heavier loads to carry in life than others, ours isn't as bad as some have to carry but less than some. Thats the way we were created and we have no control over what others do to us as children, it won't go away, we can't forget, we can't just put it away in the back of our brains like some can, we have to deal with it and live this beautiful life that God has given us. I know deep in my heart that I will die one day, we all do, but I'll die fat but at least I want whats left of my life to be happy and joyful and when I die "fat" I know it won't matter in eternity. I intend to spend the rest of my life with my husband of 43 years who has never once put me down, who married me when I was fat and love me more now than ever. Thats how I intend to spend the rest of my life, not being angry with myself, which I have been for 40 years, for "wasting" my life being fat, unhealthy, obese, morbid obese and letting it drain all my emotions all these years. I'm still mad at myself for wasting my life but at this minute, this day which is my 61th birthday, I'm mad at myself for spending every day, every meal, every party or social event worrying about what I put in my mouth. What a waste. Your what, in your early 30's, don't waste the next 30 years being miserable. Try to get some help, stay off the surgical table for now and see what you can do for yourself and to hell with others. Linda (bkgrandma)

[BigBootyGirl 0]

I'm sorry that you have had so many negative things happen because of the band and I'm so sorry that it's affecting your lives the way it is. :hug: I have not had complications up to this point, and hope that I don't because I know that I would feel exactly the way that you guys do. I really don't think I could have handled it emotionally if it hadn't worked, so I think you guys are very strong. :hail: I'm not going to sit here and say that the band is the answer for everyone, because I know it's not. I coould have had another WLS and have it not work for me. What I do want to say is that I admire you both very much for being such strong women and for dealing with this the way you have. :humble: You are what young women should be looking at when they're building their lives and their personalities.

I have to say that the last 2 posts that you guys wrote really made me well up. :Banane44: No matter what anyone says, being overweight always carries emotions if you were teased, or if someone in your life made you feel less of a person due to your weight. It's not right, and no one should be subjected to feeling worthless. :hug: None of us are.

Muggle, right now, take care of yourself mentally. Deal with the emotions you're having. Get better. Then decide what to do about surgery. Love yourself because others love you. :hug: I know you're thinking :censored: but it's true. As frustrating as it's been, look at what you've accomplished. How many people would have the patience or emotional energy to deal with an issue like this for as long as you had? Not many and I can tell you I sure as heck wouldn't. And I consider myself a strong person. 5 years is a long time. Give yourself some credit.:clap2:

bkgrandma, I have so much to learn from people like you. :bolt: I hope that someday I truly can get my brain to think like yours, and to not be ashamed of myself. I think that is truly the greatest gift to give yourself :present:because it shows that you love you.

You guys are great, and let me know how things go. I know I talk a lot and use a lot of smilies, but they're therapy to me.:Banane44: What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.:eek:

[jahair 0]

BK Grandma and Muggles,

You are the best example of what this board is about -- the opportunity to find someone who has walked in your shoes, and knows EXACTLY how you are feeling. This honest exchange between you has so much power to heal you both and to teach the rest of us about true courage. This board has so much "happy talk" most of the time that it takes courage to say it isn't fun at all, and I acknowledge you both for that.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Jo Ann

PS BK Grandma :happybday: :happybday2:

[ted12345 0]

Thats just the thing i never wanted to be banded, I knew what the band needed to make it work i still know what the band needs to make it work but i cant make the changes and stick to them. And on top of that the band dies not respond as i was told it would.

I was never a volume eater i was and still am a comfort eater. and to say deal with your self is as diffucult than it would be if we took the bands out of all the successess and said maintain on your own. We all failed pre op and we all have the same issues only the band just does not work for some. For me to make this band work i would need to go on a strickt diet and stick to it and i failed before and i am failing now i am failing with my band for every reason i failed on diets before my band.

i begged my surgeon not to fitthe band on me i was deverstated when he said the band or nothing. And if i chose to walk away i know i would always be asking myself what if!.

I also don't think all my probs will go away once im slim i never said that eather. what i said was i dont feel like that vulnerable child any more inside i feel i am over that vulnerablity. But being big piuts limitations on my life mobiliys and fashin choice and but also the social exclusion and isolation. All these things i am no longer wanting to be part of.

what i was meaning was as a child i was happy to suffer them because they hid a real truth but that issue is no longer a issue so i no longer have to hide. But because i cant take of the over cost of fat i am still experiencing the difficultes if that makes sence.

I am ready to live life most of my life has been unhappy and ironically i am now ready to live life. Its like ive woken up out of my sleep to find this im rid of one issue to deal with another. This weight was a symtom not a cause. This has been almost five years now 2 1/2 years on a waiting list to be told i would be banded only when it was my turn to have the op. Had i have known earler may be i would have fought my health authority to referre me to a differnt surgeon one who did all the op's. but i didnt want to have to start again on another waiting list thats only if they would referre me i ran the risk they wouldnt. So i went ahead and had the band i will be 2 years post op in May and im just over a stone down. Mot enough to effect my mobility and in still in size 22 clothes being only 4 ft 11 i look bigger than say some one else who is 5ft 7 or 8 and a size 22.

The weight loss has had no impact on the quality life imorpved mobility or body shape. I am deeply depressed now because it seems i have invested almost 5 years to loseing weight for nothing. Its gone beyond the point of dissapointment,