How can this math be possible ? The Sleeve is not working.

[Losing weight 126]

Something interesting I wanna share with you Weight Loss Stall or Plateau A weight loss stall or plateau is an extended period of time during reducing efforts where is there is no weight loss according to the scale and no loss of inches according to the tape measure. This is why it is so important to take your body measurements before surgery, so you'll have a reference as your weight loss progresses post-op. We suggest you take measurements of your chest, waist and hip, neck, upper arm, thigh and calf. Be aware it is very common for your weight loss to "stall" shortly after surgery. The reason for this below. The Inevitable Stall A "stall" a few weeks out is inevitable, and here's why. Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble, but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4 lbs of Water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2 lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of Water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy" 10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet. As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of energy -- like, to outrun a saber tooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble. So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the glycogen that is being reformed and stored. Breathe, and fuggedaboudit for a few days. What You Can Do About a Stall or Plateau If you are experiencing a post-op weight loss stall or plateau further out there are a few possible causes. First, check that are you really in a stall. If the scale has stopped moving you may be losing inches, so check your measurements. Too Many Carbs? Carbohydrates can start sneaking into your foods without you being aware of how quickly they are adding up.If you are struggling with your weight loss you may want to examine your daily carb count. You can try to keep your carbs under 50g a day and see if that makes a difference in your weight loss. Do not eat carbs before bedtime as it triggers insulin and initiates fat storage. There are some great web site resources you can use to keep track of what you are eating. Fit Day Spark People - If you join Spark People also join the DS group. Eating Enough? If you are under-eating or go more than 4-5 hours without eating, your body will shift into fasting mode, slow your metabolism and conserve your stored energy (fat). This can contribute to a weight loss stall or plateau. Make sure you are eating small meals or small Snacks throughout the day and also ensure you meet your daily Protein requirements. Try eating some Protein with every meal or snack. For more information on protein requirements see our section on Protein. Drinking Enough? An adequate level of water in your body aids in the effective breakdown of fat. The daily minimum recommendation is 64 Fluid oz of water a day. If you are in ketosis you will need to drink even more water to ensure the ketones are flushed out of your system. You may also need more than the minimum amount of water if you are exercising or live in a warmer or dry environment. Exercising? Exercise can increase your metabolism and burn fat. Strength training will build muscles and will boost fat burning. In a stall you can try increasing your volume of exercise or changing up your routine to overcome a weight loss stall or plateau. If you have been doing mainly aerobic activity, try doing a bit of strength training, and if you have been doing mainly strength training, try an aerobic work-out. The High Fat - High Calorie Stall Buster Many Sleevers swear by the fat/calorie shock as an effective weight loss stall or plateau buster. Having a day of higher fat and calorie eating followed by a returning to consistent low carb eating can sometimes "shock" your body back into weight loss mode.

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[Losing weight 126]

You will be okay keep doing what you are suppose to do

[Kapoorvilla 117]

Thanks for the info I saw your thread and it is all very informative just so frustrating when that scale will not move! I jump through all the hoops and get no reward. I know the family is sick of my obsessing over it so thanks for being there VST!

[ArtSong 291]

Ty for this post I'm 4 months out and only down 35lbs so I want keep an eye on this post

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[ashelaine 382]

Stalls happen- and they SUCK. Big time. I lost 20lbs at my one week check up (11/20). I then stayed at the same weight almost until Christmas- that's 5 weeks. I was mad at myself and my sleeve. That being said- I have to stay around 600 calories- Carbs don't seem to kill me, however I don't have much room for them- I drink a small glass of fruit juice a day. I have lost 29lbs since I started tracking everything and staying right at my 600 calories. I'm at a total loss in 10 weeks of 49lbs. I will take it. You just need to figure out what works for you and your body. My body HATES me if I go too low carb- hypoglycemia rears its ugly head).

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[Kapoorvilla 117]

Keep in mind that the exact same thing would have happened if you had not been sleeved and just ate what you ate. It's just that you have invested much money and suffering and expect a result from it. Very understandable. I would mortgage my house and bet the money that you will drop eventually with the great discipline you are showing.

I have been through many illogical stalls in the last year. Your body doesn't care about math. It does what it does and doesn't tell you why. Brats aren't they?

Thank you. It feels good to hear someone has confidence it will work. To be fair to my husband has said simaliar things but he also worries this is going to be a disappointing out come to me like so many diets before it.

Actually what I liked hearing about the sleeve is -this is not a diet but life style changes. It has been years since I cut out fried foods and sugar. Cut way back on processed foods and bread is not been a daily thing for me in a very long time. I was 386 in 2006 and so yes I saw great results from making those lifestyle changes but my body seems to be locked in battle not to go below 250 no matter what! I really hoped the surgery would help me bust through that wall and put me on the way to onederland.

[soocalchic 1,087]

It's time to start excersising

[SleeveandRNYchica 1,155]

I am in same boat week 16 and 36lbs down. I lost most of that in the first two weeks. It is frustrating. I just keep the hope, that this is part of the process. I hope it helps to know that others are going through the same thing.

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My weight loss has been a stair step pattern and sometimes I gain. After being on these forums for a while I've learned that it's normal and to be patient and that's what I've always done. You will start to lose again. I've kept track of my carbs for the past couple of days and I'm eating around 100-140g of carbs and I need that so I can continue to have a productive workout. Are you exercising? If not then start, if so then switch it up! I don't agree with starving yourself in order to lose the weight or that you need to cut out a whole food group. I don't plan on eating low carb for the rest of my life, so why do it to lose weight. I'd much rather learn to eat a balanced diet and continue to lose at the rate I am, than to crash diet to the finish line and then panic once I realize that I can't maintain my very strict "diet" that helped me lose the weight. Carbs aren't bad and they do much better at fueling a workout. I actually found a really good article on obesityhelp.com http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/fitness/Weight-Loss-Surgery-Carbohydrate-and-Exercise.html I'm very thankful that my NUT believes in a balanced diet.

[Kapoorvilla 117]

I am in same boat week 16 and 36lbs down. I lost most of that in the first two weeks. It is frustrating. I just keep the hope' date=' that this is part of the process. I hope it helps to know that others are going through the same thing.[/quote']

Yes it does!

[Kapoorvilla 117]

My weight loss has been a stair step pattern and sometimes I gain. After being on these forums for a while I've learned that it's normal and to be patient and that's what I've always done. You will start to lose again. I've kept track of my carbs for the past couple of days and I'm eating around 100-140g of carbs and I need that so I can continue to have a productive workout. Are you exercising? If not then start' date=' if so then switch it up! I don't agree with starving yourself in order to lose the weight or that you need to cut out a whole food group. I don't plan on eating low carb for the rest of my life, so why do it to lose weight. I'd much rather learn to eat a balanced diet and continue to lose at the rate I am, than to crash diet to the finish line and then panic once I realize that I can't maintain my very strict "diet" that helped me lose the weight. Carbs aren't bad and they do much better at fueling a workout. I actually found a really good article on obesityhelp.com http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/fitness/Weight-Loss-Surgery-Carbohydrate-and-Exercise.html I'm very thankful that my NUT believes in a balanced diet.[/quote']

I do work out. Not one of my favorite activities but I do it. In the original post I pleaded with everyone not to give me the your building musle line. I had a complication with a cut bowel so I had to be out of the gym for a few weeks. To be honest I was surprised how far that set me back. I am still working back to where I was as far as intensity. As for the carb info I think your right but to get moving again I think I just might lower them.

[Sunshine121276 9]

I've read all these posts and it really makes me wonder if anyone if following up with their nutritionist after surgery. My surgeon has a NUT on staff and I take full advantage of her. she has me at 1000-1200 calories a day. I usually keep it at 1100: I work out regularly with strength and cardio. But I don't obsess because at that calorie intake I am almost never hungry. I drink 70-80 oz a day sometimes more if I have a really good workout. She has me at equal carbs as Protein. I've lost about 70 lbs since Oct 26: my doctor wants me at 6-10 lbs a month and I've exceeded that so far but I do realize as time goes on that is realistic as I get smaller and don't burn as many calories. I've stalled a few times and its frustrating but feels good when the scale starts to move again. I see all these posts of 500-600calories and don't understand how anyone sticks to that and has a healthy balanced meal. I worry that no one can maintain that and will eventually do more harm than good.