Ice cream

[Dianne38 81]

Im 7 weeks out and want ice cream. Has any one had complications with ice cream. Im not really concerned with the calories, just wondered if most sleeves like or dislike ice cream.

[GeauxForIt 659]

Eating ice cream seems like a bad idea, but if you must, I've seen other sleevers mention frozen yogurt sitting well.

[BigTXChris 13]

That sounds scary try some yogurt, Jello or a popsicle. I bet that will take away the craving.

[mysunflower621 69]

There are lots of recipies out there for low carb/sugar free and even fat free ice cream so perhaps you want to check that out first? I found a site that sells low carb/sugar products and they have a softserve that you can make in an ice cream maker. I haven't tried it, but I did order it for when I just need a little treat, at least this way, I won't feel guilty! Here is the site:

http://healthsmartfoods.com/healthier-soft-serve.html

[MOMW 71]

I was an ice cream lover. I have discovered the new frozen Greek yogurts. The 1/2 c serving is just perfect and it provides some Protein too.

[No game 14,437]

Ok I know this sounds weird but my son love it!

I get frozen mango from trader joes

A little skim milk

And 1 banana

Take about a cup of the mango

And banana put in the food processor

And add a little milk blend it all and eat!'

[mysunflower621 69]

What brand is the frozen greek yogurt? I haven't seen that in any stores!

[Mason 122]

I've been eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream since day 14 with no harmful side effects and I've lost 22lbs and nearly five inches in 26 days. Ice cream goes down very easily and stays down but I limit it to 58g (2oz) per serving.

I use MyFitnessPal.com to track everything that goes into my mouth. It's real easy to rack up empty calories with ice cream. However, ever since returning home from the hospital, I've been struggling with meeting my Protein requirements and consuming enough calories to meet my BMR. It will be 8 o'clock in the evening and, according to MFP, I will have only consumed 650 calories for the day. After meeting my Protein goals, ice cream helps to provide a lot more energy than yogurt and, as long as I am well within my calorie goal for the day, there isn't one iota of guilt to contend with.

The consumption of ice cream (bacon, chocolate, etc.) doesn't sit well with the abstinence model people (who warn against eating anything with processed sugar, wheat, and alcohol) but I don't believe in abstinence when it comes to food with the exception of carbonated beverages after VSG surgery.

Learning how to eat in moderation is the key to long term success. Limiting foods high in calories in an attempt to offset the damages from grazing is the wrong approach I think... at least it is for me. The healthier approach is to abstain from grazing, not foods that you enjoy.

[MOMW 71]

Ben and Jerry's and Yoplait both have frozen Greek yogurt. They both have about 5 flavors each. And each of them are delicious. They really hit the spot for me.

[Mason 122]

Ben and Jerry's and Yoplait both have frozen Greek yogurt. They both have about 5 flavors each. And each of them are delicious. They really hit the spot for me.

This is great to know for when I am able to consume more than 2oz of solid food at a time and more calorie dense foods such as steak.

With the struggle I am having every day to meet my Protein and BMR calorie requirements, I am extremely grateful for every single calorie in that 2oz of ice cream I am able to eat in one sitting.

[EricaVSGJourney 64]

I went through a Haagen Daz coffee ice cream phase about a month ago. No negative effects physically (body digested it fine and didn't gain weight). I didn't try to limit myself ... Just had it when I wanted it. Here's the thing though - I didn't substitute it for something I "kinda" wanted. Meaning - I had exactly the product I wanted .. Ate until I was satisfied (probably 1/2 cup per portion), and was done.

I don't want to encourage behavior that will enable someone to "slide"... Just listen to your body I'd say.

Oh.. I'm a little over 8 months post-op and less than 10 lbs from goal. (my YouTube channel is the same as my user name here)

[Mason 122]

I don't want to encourage behavior that will enable someone to "slide"... Just listen to your body I'd say.

The $64,000 question in this context is: What is the best way to address the problem of "sliding" into frequent trips to the refrigerator and cupboard, abstinence or psychotherapy (specifically, redefining one's relationship with and to food)?

From everything I have read on these forums, VSG is not an effective treatment for obesity caused by excessive snacking, i.e., those who pop three to four Cookies in their mouths every time they pass the kitchen, because one can just as easily do that (two to three) months after surgery as before.

I personally don't think the best way to address this type of eating disorder is through abstinence because those who compulsively adhere to the abstinence model are at risk for suffering what is referred to as the "abstinence violation effect," i.e., as consuming even one cookie (for example) is viewed as a total failure, the patient decides "well, now that I've fallen off the wagon and I'm a total failure, I might as well eat the entire bag!"

Moderation, not abstinence, wins the race. In my opinion, those who cannot eat in moderation or control excessive snacking (grazing) with the sleeve should consider seeking additional professional help because, ultimately, the sleeve alone will fail them.

[KarissaKhaos 170]

If I eat icecream I become extremely nauseous and sick, try to avoid it.

[Mason 122]

If I eat icecream I become extremely nauseous and sick, try to avoid it.

I know exactly what you mean. I have the same reaction to low-fat cottage cheese and soy milk.

[EricaVSGJourney 64]

The 64' date='000 question in this context is: What is the best way to address the problem of "sliding" into frequent trips to the refrigerator and cupboard, abstinence or psychotherapy (specifically, redefining one's relationship with and to food)?

From everything I have read on these forums, VSG is not an effective treatment for obesity caused by excessive snacking, i.e., those who pop three to four Cookies in their mouths every time they pass the kitchen, because one can just as easily do that (two to three) months after surgery as before.

I personally don't think the best way to address this type of eating disorder is through abstinence because those who compulsively adhere to the abstinence model are at risk for suffering what is referred to as the "abstinence violation effect," i.e., as consuming even one cookie (for example) is viewed as a total failure, the patient decides "well, now that I've fallen off the wagon and I'm a total failure, I might as well eat the entire bag!"

Moderation, not abstinence, wins the race. In my opinion, those who cannot eat in moderation or control excessive snacking (grazing) with the sleeve should consider seeking additional professional help because, ultimately, the sleeve alone will fail them.[/quote']

I think this is a very excellent point. I should state that I tended to not be too much of a grazer before surgery. My habit was to go long stretches of time without eating, and then becoming ravenous and eating anything that wasn't nailed down (especially in the evening).

I have become more of a grazer in the last several months, but all that's caused is a stall. Once I started knocking it off, I started losing again.

So you're right - even though I was eating full fat ice cream, I wasn't grazing on it all day to finish the pint in the same day.

And I totally agree that abstinence is not sustainable. I fully believe that had I not have the exact ice cream I wanted, I would have eaten WAY more of the inferior substitute (and probably caved and still bought the ice cream)!

I'm hoping I can continue to indulge in the things I love and not have a negative consequence! I may just have to thank God that I'm more a binge eater than a grazer, because that may have been the underlying key to my success with the sleeve!!