Bigger sips today...concerned

[want2live 29]

I very simply asked if it was normal to start to be able to take larger sips as the days go by. That's it. I didn't ask if I should eat crap or stuff myself (I am still on liquids for heaven sake) or a plateful of anything. I was asking people who have been through this for their experience so I can feel a little better and reassured about my progress.

[No game 14,437]

Then yes my dear it is normal

[Butterthebean 8,146]

Yes it is normal.

But you made the comment about your sleeve being bigger than you wanted. My comment to that was...sleeve size doesn't matter because you don't want to get full. The sleeve is like a back up device in case you do eat too much, but you do not want to eat till you are full every meal...even with the sleeve. Maybe that's not what you were asking for. But I have seen many comments that were similar, even just today. People who are worried their sleeve is too big because they can eat or drink more than they think they should. It's nothing to worry about. I can easily eat 1500 calories a day, and usually do. My capacity is obviously much bigger than most, but weight loss has not been a problem.

I also firmly believe that the feeling of fullness and restriction isn't merely a sign of sleeve capacity, it can also vary amongst the individual. Just like pain tolerance. Some people are more attuned to the feeling of fullness and satiety than others. I know I have never been very aware of my feelings of fullness, which allowed me to overeat all my life. Now I weigh everything and don't leave it to my feelings.

[doxieville 799]

So I am 9 days post op and all of a sudden today i can take much bigger sips of Water. No gulping if course....an not like the pre sleeve days....but an obvious difference from this last week.

I am nervous that this is a sign my sleeve is bigger than i want.

Any advice?

If you had done as much research as you say, then you'd realize that your statement 'i am nervous....sleeve is bigger than i want' couldn't be very realistic. And you'd also realize that that comment/question is asked a lot on here. You probably are an intelligent person. I am one too. And even I had a weak moment a week or so after surgery and asked questions that i knew the answer to just because i needed reassurance. The whole sleeve experience can be surreal.

Then you asked for 'any advice.' That was a blanket request for advice, which Butter gave you. And then you got upset when he gave you straightforward advice. That's not very fair, IMHO. Many of us are just trying to help newbies and answer questions as best we can according to our experiences.

If Butters 'get off the ledge' offended you, then just ignore that and take the healthy advice that he gave you. However, many of us here know Butter's style and that's how he writes, with a little humor injected throughout his posts. His supportive advice is posted all over this forum and I for one am glad that he has stuck around to help us.

[MammasMelting 35]

Well said Dixie...I'm 9 days out today too and I searched the same keywords and found this is normal. That said its such a big site...so repeats are fine. However you nailed it by saying "any advice" being a blanket question. We need to not be so sensitive here...take the advice or don't.

Butter is the picture of true success!!! His discipline is crazy and his results show that. I'm ALWAYS looking for his replies because he lives it and I personally need to hear the truth. I feel if someone takes his advice as offensives in any of his posts or replies, then maybe they weren't ready for this.

[Wolfgirl1978 256]

People' date=' come back from the ledge. Do not freak out. First of all, size of your sleeve does not matter. You are the one who has to control what you eat from here on out. The sleeve will be like a helping hand, but not a crutch. Do not depend on it to do all the work by letting your feelings of fullness tell you when to stop eating or drinking. Your capacity will increase, and it will keep increasing for a while. One day a few months down the line you will wake up and be able to eat double what you could at 2 months out. That does not mean you should eat double. Measure your portions and learn to eat that and then stop eating. The idea is to eat till you're no longer hungry, not full. If you're like me, and you're not terribly good at recognizing that point then measure you're food and you can't go wrong.

If you're still on liquids then work to get in your Water but do not bloat yourself.[/quote']

^This. He is absolutely correct

[GiGi3 33]

If Butters 'get off the ledge' offended you, then just ignore that and take the healthy advice that he gave you. However, many of us here know Butter's style and that's how he writes, with a little humor injected throughout his posts. His supportive advice is posted all over this forum and I for one am glad that he has stuck around to help us.

How sweet so many of you know Butter's style. Not. There is no excuse for harshness at a support forum. Maybe he needs to read what he wrote before he posts, notice the poster and not just a routine comment that he would give people that "know his style".

I found no humor when I read his posts. I just read it as mean spiritness.

[GiGi3 33]

I didn't mean to be. The OP literally asked for advice and then got upset when I gave mine. She then played the "support" card which is silly, since she wasn't asking for support, but rather, information. I only try to help but I don't sugar coat. I would but I'm no good at it.

Maybe you need go back to the file in your brain from your first few weeks. It can be overwhelming.

Nothing wrong with sugarcoating in the first few weeks, I think beginners need that. Even though I asked my doctor why he thought patients had problems and his answer was doctor error most of the time. I still get nervous I am not following every thing I need to be doing, and something is going to go wrong. I am going to check my "diet meal plan" for week 2, 3 and 4 again today. I was hardly eating anything the last week and suddenly I am eating more (3 tablespoons a day vs 5 tablespoons a day), it feels easy going down. Yes, we all get nervous about gaining weight in the beginning.

It is easy being several months out, years out. You are on easy street. We are on intense street.

[Wolfgirl1978 256]

If you had done as much research as you say' date=' then you'd realize that your statement 'i am nervous....sleeve is bigger than i want' couldn't be very realistic. And you'd also realize that that comment/question is asked a lot on here. You probably are an intelligent person. I am one too. And even I had a weak moment a week or so after surgery and asked questions that i knew the answer to just because i needed reassurance. The whole sleeve experience can be surreal.

Then you asked for 'any advice.' That was a blanket request for advice, which Butter gave you. And then you got upset when he gave you straightforward advice. That's not very fair, IMHO. Many of us are just trying to help newbies and answer questions as best we can according to our experiences.

If Butters 'get off the ledge' offended you, then just ignore that and take the healthy advice that he gave you. However, many of us here know Butter's style and that's how he writes, with a little humor injected throughout his posts. His supportive advice is posted all over this forum and I for one am glad that he has stuck around to help us.

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Doxie...I agree with this 100%. Good stuff here.

[Wolfgirl1978 256]

Well said Dixie...I'm 9 days out today too and I searched the same keywords and found this is normal. That said its such a big site...so repeats are fine. However you nailed it by saying "any advice" being a blanket question. We need to not be so sensitive here...take the advice or don't.

Butter is the picture of true success!!! His discipline is crazy and his results show that. I'm ALWAYS looking for his replies because he lives it and I personally need to hear the truth. I feel if someone takes his advice as offensives in any of his posts or replies' date=' then maybe they weren't ready for this.[/quote']

Yes, I'm always interested in what Butter has to say because of his success.

[doxieville 799]

Maybe you need go back to the file in your brain from your first few weeks. It can be overwhelming.

Nothing wrong with sugarcoating in the first few weeks' date=' I think beginners need that. Even though I asked my doctor why he thought patients had problems and his answer was doctor error most of the time. I still get nervous I am not following every thing I need to be doing, and something is going to go wrong. I am going to check my "diet meal plan" for week 2, 3 and 4 again today. I was hardly eating anything the last week and suddenly I am eating more (3 tablespoons a day vs 5 tablespoons a day), it feels easy going down. Yes, we all get nervous about gaining weight in the beginning.

It is easy being several months out, years out. You are on easy street. We are on intense street.[/quote']

'Easy street?' Oh, how wrong you are. There is nothing easy about working hard to regain our health. We may be past the 'ouchy' part of the surgery, but the real work begins now. I wish you all the success when you get to several months out because that is when the hard mental work really begins, and many people fail, because it IS intense.

[doxieville 799]

How sweet so many of you know Butter's style. Not. There is no excuse for harshness at a support forum. Maybe he needs to read what he wrote before he posts' date=' notice the poster and not just a routine comment that he would give people that "know his style".

I found no humor when I read his posts. I just read it as mean spiritness.[/quote']

GiGi, enough, please. We don't need another supportive poster being chased away, or newbies being wary about posting. We've already lost many members because people reading posts that are meant to be supportive twist them around, and blast the posters. Written language can be construed so easily and adapted to ones personal views.

If you were offended, ok fine. You've made your point. He said he didn't mean to be offensive so stop beating a dead horse. Many didn't find it offensive but regardless, this doesn't need to be turned into a debacle.

[want2live 29]

I certainly didn't mean to stir up anything.

I do appreciate anyone's advice. But there is a big difference between not sugar coating health advice and taking a direct dig at someone in a very sarcastic, mean spirited way for something they said that they were doing to better themselves. I feel there is no need or room or that on this forum.

Yes....butterbean.....keep you advice hear for all to benefit from.....but please keep the snide remarks to yourself. Please remember many of us (especially new sleevers) haven't gotten over our self esteem issues as you may have and we take anything said personally to heart.

Thanks.

[GiGi3 33]

'Easy street?' Oh, how wrong you are. There is nothing easy about working hard to regain our health. We may be past the 'ouchy' part of the surgery, but the real work begins now. I wish you all the success when you get to several months out because that is when the hard mental work really begins, and many people fail, because it IS intense.

I used Easy Street because you are more comfortable with your sleeve because you have been living with it awhile vs newbies that are intense and nervous about their sleeve.

[GiGi3 33]

I certainly didn't mean to stir up anything.

I do appreciate anyone's advice. But there is a big difference between not sugar coating health advice and taking a direct dig at someone in a very sarcastic, mean spirited way for something they said that they were doing to better themselves. I feel there is no need or room or that on this forum.

Yes....butterbean.....keep you advice hear for all to benefit from.....but please keep the snide remarks to yourself. Please remember many of us (especially new sleevers) haven't gotten over our self esteem issues as you may have and we take anything said personally to heart.

Thanks.

want2live-- have a great day today!