Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Molestation!!!!



Recommended Posts

I dont think just because you were molested as a child you will molest. you can't say that. It happened to me when I was in 6th grade by my mother's boyfriend when she was in the hospital having surgery.it happened 2 timese in 3 days and never again. I never told anyone until I was in marriage counseling at 25. I was not my fault but I trust no one with my children I am very observant and I would never even think of doing that. it makes me cry that some one would do it. as a mother I am here to protect my children and I tell them often that it could be anyone, those children didnt deserve this from there own dad. So much for the meaning of daddys little girl, he ought to be hung by his man hood. I pray for the girls and there mother. I know God will forgive him if this guy askes him to do so. as a christain I should forgive him but as a woman wife and mother NEVER... Tired old man I wish you the very best luck with this you to need prayer as well this must be hard for you, but remember he could have did it to you children then how would you feel.. I dont want you to come down with Cancer and I get your point but realize we all have our own opinions on this, and we are all intitled to them..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This thread was started by JQPublic to express his feelings about a friend, and the emotional distress that friend's actions have caused him and his family.

John, how are you feeling today?

Mouse that is an excellent point. Thank you for reminding the rest of that!

John how are you?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

JQPublic poured his heart out and he needs our support.

Many have decided to say things like, we feel for you, or you are in my prayers, I know you are going through a terrible time. Some have offered suggestions such as testify, don't testify, help, don't help. And some have said that they would have Eric executed or castrated or they would personally rip him to shreds.

I have decided to show some (of what I consider) insight into the molestation situation. I shared some personal experiences and told of ideas to help the problems we face as individuals and as a nation.

As a person who just lost a niece because of the aftermath of molestation, I have a certain amount of empathy for JQPublic. I was at the funeral when people wished me the best for my loss. I watched her uncle consoled by people who didn't know he was directly related to the cause of her death.

If he had molested my children, I would have felt no different about him, because I don't expect others to forgive while seeking retribution for myself.

JQPublic, my heart goes out to you and I hope you testify and speak the truth at the hearing. I wonder if your pain is because of the feeling of being stabbed in the back by your friend or it is some other reason. Whatever it is, I feel for you. I hope my writings have helped you. Getting things out in the light is the best disinfectant.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Im just pissed not only did he do it to his kidds but now there are others! 3 and a 4 year old Im not his judge he may even be the father to his own sister?

I'don

t how any person could do some thing like that to a Children .he tore his whole family apart, even as those little kidds growing up that one time touch or many not only has he hurt them emotional, but they are to young to under stand Hey! where daddy. every day and he is hurting them every day .

It like killing you self to me that is a very selfish act because you never see the people who love you and would be there for you.

it just wrong wrong.

if I have to speak I will not lie for him at all Only ask that he does all his time in a hospital where he may get some help!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And who says we shouldn't have a license to have children? I couldn't read all the posts because it was making me sick and thinking of the horror I would be forced to inflict on someone if they even thought of touching MY 3 year old. I think you should just tell the truth, period. How would you feel if you were one of the children he molested and had their life ruined by him? Sorry, but I'm a firm beliver in the truth.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We should all have both sympathy for the victimized children and empathy for the children and the victimizer.

We who can not control our weight although it is killing us to eat, should realize that we are powerless without a higher authority to help ourselves.

No! I am not excusing anyone who commits these terrible acts. But set up a mirror (mental or physical) and watch yourself eat (or run a taped version in your mind of yourself eating pre-Lap-Band).

I know, we can say, "but I never hurt anyone else". Didn't we? Didn't we hurt our spouse, parents, children (or whoever is applicable to each of our situations) by trying to kill ourselves with food?

It is always easy to criticize and feel superior to other people because our faults are not as bad as their's.

"I only drink, but I don't do drugs."

"I just hang out with the guys (girls), but I don't cheat on my spouse."

"I only bet on baseball, not the horses."

"I can quit smoking anytime I want."

"OK, so I cheated, but she wasn't underage."

We all have our failings which we can overlook, but we can not condone others who have failings. Yes, child molestation is worse than many other failings, but what are we going to do about it? Read the numbers I posted a while back. I applaud JQPublic for saying he will tell the truth and ask that his friend be giving medical care. I doubt that the judge will follow JQPublic's suggestion and he will probably sentence Eric to hard-time where he will learn more about being a criminal and maybe even learn not to leave any evidence behind next time.

That is how a pedophile becomes a murdering pedophile. They get angrier in prison. The anger in prison adds to the anger that they had which caused the molestation in the first place.

I hope I am wrong and Eric pays his price to society and becomes a model citzen by totally changing his ways. Don't you?

There but for the Grace of God...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If he may be the father to his own sister, that means he raped his mother (unless it was consentual), and got her pregnant. Am I following?

If so, the legal dimensions of this, and the complexity of the trial, just tripled... quadrupled... Is it the prosecutor or defense asking you to testify? Defense, I'd assume, as a character witness...?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If he may be the father to his own sister, that means he raped his mother (unless it was consentual), and got her pregnant. Am I following?

If so, the legal dimensions of this, and the complexity of the trial, just tripled... quadrupled... Is it the prosecutor or defense asking you to testify? Defense, I'd assume, as a character witness...?

Or his mother raped him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

True, true. I was reading it in the context of something else he was being charged with though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just read this entire thread and I would like to agree wholeheartedly with T.O.M. about prison not being the answer to stopping pedophiles.

Prison does separate pedophiles from the general population and that is good. But it does not help them and it only takes them out of society for a specified period of time. Like so many others here have also said, they are historically repeat offenders. That's why we make such a big deal out of showing their photos in newspapers and posting their names and addresses at a website for all to see.

When I was young I was the legal secretary for a brilliant attorney in Oklahoma. He was a criminal defense attorney. He took the case of a 55 yr. old man who was a multiple convictioned pedophile. His latest crime against a 6 year old boy happened within days of his release from prison. I was the person who typed all the legal documents - including a step by step account of his latest offense. It was heart wrenching.

The brilliant attorney decided that for this man, and most other pedophiles, prison was a revolving door. They commit the crime, they get caught, they go through a trial, they get convicted, they do their time, they get out, they repeat their crime. Unless a law is passed that they can never get out, prison will bear those results.

This attorney recognized how ineffective our society's handling of pedophiles was and petitioned the Supreme Court of the United States so that he could argue for a better way to deal with pedophiles. Surprisingly enough, the Supreme Court decided to hear his case. It was a very exciting time for all of us - most attorneys never have a case before the Supreme Court during their entire career.

His argument begged for our government to stop prosecuting pedophiles as pure criminals, but rather as the sick people that they are. They would not be turned loose, once convicted, but instead would be hospitalized 24/7 for an unspecified period of time to be treated for their mental and/or physical illness (because pedophilia may be attributed to physical issues). Once they were able to demonstrate to the attending physicians who are treating them, that they can function again in society without committing crimes, then, and only then, would they be able to petition to be released from the pedophile treatment facility.

The Supreme Court ruled against my boss and decided that pedophiles should indeed be treated as criminals and that our courts should continue to treat them the way we had been in the past. Several of the justices noted that the attorney's argument was valid and that he was right about the revolving prison doors for these sick people, however they believed that society would never accept our treating them as anything but criminals.

I wish I could show you step by step how it all unfolded for the pedophile in this case, but of course I can't. But when you understand that putting them in prison doesn't work and allowing them to choose whether or not they should participate in a rehabilitation program doesn't work, I don't know how you can agree that the way we are handling pedophiles in this country is correct. If simple castration worked that might be a reasonable answer. But as was pointed out in an earlier post, that doesn't really ensure anything. Makes us feel better, maybe, but doesn't necessarily solve the problem.

It seems to me that Oprah and others are at least trying to bring more information to the public now than back when my exposure to pedophilia happened (1970s). But I still don't see our society coming close to an effective answer.

Although I haven't addressed JQPublic's original plea for support, this is a very emotional and thought provoking issue and one that I believe deserves a lot of discussion. Obviously JQPublic must decide for himself how he feels about his pedophile friend and whether he should agree to testify in his defense.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I have a few hour's I will try and look on the news paper site and see if I can pull any thing up. there has been lots on news paper artical's and news room footage. Big Big story!

And as PAUL HARVEY Said: I'will tell you the rest of the story later, but for now good day!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No bail for man facing federal porn charges

A Superior man is in federal custody after pleading not guilty Wednesday during an arraignment in Madison to federal charges of child pornography Wednesday.

Thursday, October, 26, 2006 - The Daily Telegram - News

newspaperprints.gifPurchase a print of this Newspaper Page

Local man faces 100 child porn accusations

A Superior man facing 100 felony counts of possession of child pornography remains in Douglas County Jail following an initial court appearance Tuesday.

Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 - The Daily Telegram - News

Add complete article to Shopping Cart

newspaperprints.gifPurchase a print of this Newspaper Page

presspass.pngView with Press Pass

Child porn case moves forward

A Superior man was bound over for arraignment on 100 counts of possession of child pornography today in Douglas County Court.

Wednesday, October, 11, 2006 - The Daily Telegram - News

Add complete article to Shopping Cart

newspaperprints.gifPurchase a print of this Newspaper Page

presspass.pngView with Press Pass Feds file child porn charges against Superior man

Federal charges have been filed against a Superior man accused of 100 counts of possessing child pornography in Douglas County.

The paper also states two federal charges of using a minor to produce visual depictions of sexually explicit conduct and possessing a computer hard drive and DVDS containing visual depictions of minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

FBI . an analyst in Milwaukee verified 600 images of child pornography among the materals, according to the crimal complaint the videotape allegedly showed olson having inappropriate sexual contact with a girl who appropriate sexual contact with a girl who appeared to be age 3 or 4. this is from the daily telgram thursday oct 26 2006. and also picthers of nude children printed on on regular paper!

This is the first one Ive have sceen. I talked with mother the other day and she told me he did it! and started crying.

Child pornography is wrong no matter how you look at it it is just wrong! even if he was, mollested there is no reason that he shoud of did this!

( Please don,t Judge me but as a father. finding out that there was kidds involved I can,t help him let the (court system handle this) and God Judge him ) maybe Im wrong not to help him out but i just can,t do it. and I will not bring this matter up again.

Eric,s mom was a fallen down drunk one night out drinking eric older brother and sister , were playing around with match,s and lit his crib on fire eric was burned with 3rd degree burns about 35% or his body and his mother would some times would screw two men a night in front of him when we were kids we would have to get up and leave and she was always screaming at him and slaping him and pulling his hair in fits of rage.

then ten minutes later giving the poor kid a kiss crying. I no that shit messed up!!!

I no growing up his life was hell!!!!!! ( BUTT what about the hell he put those kids in) if that sounds like Im Judging him Im not.but in good faith I just can,t do it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

John, I just wanted to say that you are a very special person.

Thanks for being part of all of our lives

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

John...

I understand. It's so hard to know what's "right" in a situation like this. I would visit my friend, take him books - whatever I could do privately to let him know that I still loved him. But I would stop short of doing anything that might impact a juror, reduce his sentence, or would make it appear that I was giving public support to this man.

Certainly you could testify that he had a horrible childhood. So have countless other people, and they didn't molest children. His attorney, however, will try and make that evidence - your testimony - into an indictment of Eric's mother and spin the whole thing to try and shift the blame from him to her. That's just wrong. Even though she was nothing but trash, she didn't commit the crimes that Eric is charged with - he did.

I hope you can find a way to show Eric that you still love him, but you HATE what he has done and will not raise a finger to lighten his load. This does NOT mean you are judging him. It means that you believe in our judicial system and want him to be judged by trial - not in the newspaper, not by his crappy childhood.

I can tell this is eating you up, John. I pray that you will find peace with whatever decision you make.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Love and prayers to you, John. God knows the plans He has for us, and they are plans to help us. What seems like an unbearable load, an unbearable sorrow, is part of His plan and is worked out in His wisdom. We are not able to see it or understand it now, but we will understand. Turn to your Faith. Lean on the Lord. If I could hold your hands and pray with you, I would do it. I am praying for you, your family, his family, and even him. God love you all. If it is any help at all, I do believe you are doing the right thing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Trending Products

  • Trending Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • rinabobina

      I would like to know what questions you wish you had asked prior to your duodenal switch surgery?
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • cryoder22

      Day 1 of pre-op liquid diet (3 weeks) and I'm having a hard time already. I feel hungry and just want to eat. I got the protein and supplements recommend by my program and having a hard time getting 1 down. My doctor / nutritionist has me on the following:
      1 protein shake (bariatric advantage chocolate) with 8 oz of fat free milk 1 snack = 1 unjury protein shake (root beer) 1 protein shake (bariatric advantage orange cream) 1 snack = 1 unjury protein bar 1 protein shake (bariatric advantace orange cream or chocolate) 1 snack = 1 unjury protein soup (chicken) 3 servings of sugar free jello and popsicles throughout the day. 64 oz of water (I have flavor packets). Hot tea and coffee with splenda has been approved as well. Does anyone recommend anything for the next 3 weeks?
      · 1 reply
      1. NickelChip

        All I can tell you is that for me, it got easier after the first week. The hunger pains got less intense and I kind of got used to it and gave up torturing myself by thinking about food. But if you can, get anything tempting out of the house and avoid being around people who are eating. I sent my kids to my parents' house for two weeks so I wouldn't have to prepare meals I couldn't eat. After surgery, the hunger was totally gone.

    • buildabetteranna

      I have my final approval from my insurance, only thing holding up things is one last x-ray needed, which I have scheduled for the fourth of next month, which is my birthday.

      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • BetterLeah

      Woohoo! I have 7 more days till surgery, So far I am already down a total of 20lbs since I started this journey. 
      · 1 reply
      1. NeonRaven8919

        Well done! I'm 9 days away from surgery! Keep us updated!

    • Ladiva04

      Hello,
      I had my surgery on the 25th of June of this year. Starting off at 117 kilos.😒
      · 1 reply
      1. NeonRaven8919

        Congrats on the surgery!

  • Recent Topics

  • Hot Products

  • Sign Up For
    Our Newsletter

    Follow us for the latest news
    and special product offers!
  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs

    PatchAid Vitamin Patches

    ×