My Suggestion-Stop The Obsessing. Rules Are Meant To Be Broken

[sharonintx 1,275]

There's some really angry, anal-retentive folks on this forum.

Just an observation.

[O.T.R. sleever 3,386]

There's some really angry' date=' anal-retentive folks on this forum.

Just an observation.[/quote']

Yup, those people exist anywhere you go.

[mark! 449]

There's some really angry, anal-retentive folks on this forum.

Just an observation.

And some serious pussification of people on here who are too lazy to do what they're supposed to so they try to find loop holes to suite their personal net gain...yup. Say what you want, I really couldn't care less, I just think it's funny people eating taco bell and other **** and think they're going to be successful by fueling their body with junk, worthless food that does absolutely nothing for the body. I wasn't pissed, it was more sarcasm, along with 'wtf are you thinking' type moment. I watch out for numero uno, and give my opinion freely, but ya ain't gotta take it missy.

[Fiddleman 4,376]

Pussification....heh. I wonder if that is in the urban dictionary.

[Smiley_Girl 27]

Sorry it's so long!! yes, I hope we hear from the veterans. .I have spoken to many of them, as I just wasn't buying into the golden rules and was able to tolerate so many things. I had a real spicy meal yesterday and no gas or anything. Sorry it was soo long, a lot to say, lol... I lost 26 pounds from the the one week liquid preop to today, which is two weeks post op, for a total of 26 pounds in 21 days. I am HAPPY to not obsess on each pound and slow down the weight loss to get onto a lifestyle diet that works.. My nutritionist (and mom), said that was music to their ears.

I have a question because my Surgeons Preop diet is midnight before my surgery Im positive he wouldnt risk my liver

[No game 14,437]

Pussification....heh. I wonder if that is in the urban dictionary.

1. Pussification

pussification(noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin.

"We are undergoing a pussification of our entire society."

2. Pussification

The state of mind that a man undergoes when he has lost any control that he ever had in a relationship with a woman. The point in a relationship where a man becomes his mates personal b***h. Once pussification takes over the man will spend every waking minute thinking of ways to please his mate.

"Hey Mike, wanna grab a beer after work?"

"Thanks guys, but I can't, I have to hurry home to give the cat a bath so that I'll have time to watch Seventh Heaven with the princess"

"Holy ****!! Mike!! You've got pussification. We need to get alcohol in you right away"

3. Pussification

Taken from a George Carlin bit, referring to the reversal of roles and attitudes specifically of the American male due to being overly "politically correct."

Using soft language and avoiding confrontation and critisizm has resulted in the complete pussification of the american youth, as manifested by "emo", and "cyberbullying"

emo pussification wuss sissy *****-whipped

4. Pussification

To become a *****, wus, coward, whimp etc.

We are witnesses to the mass pussification of males as a result of the fload of female hormones in our Water from the consumer use of the birth control pill.

Draft Dogers? That's pussification straight up!

[buplee 556]

I followed every rule pre and post-op and can't understand why people are/were so indisciplined that for a few weeks they couldn't be compliant. Isn't a lack of self control the reason we had surgery in the first place.

Hey, if someone wants to cheat that is on them. I chose not. I did not have surgery to see the disappointed look on the faces of my family because for a few months I couldn't control myself and ate the same things that made me morbidly obese.

I need to have healthy eating and a lifestyle become a habit before I sabotage myself. Will I have a little something unhealthy in the future maybe or maybe not. The sleeve as I have heard continuously is a tool to help us get on track, not something to be ignored and pushed to the side as we decide.

For all of those with no self control, think of it this way. Would you break and arm again after it has healed because you couldn't control yourself? I will not deprive myself of going our socially with friends or family, but I will make smart choices each time.

I have cooked things my family wanted like fried chicken and pork chops. I have made Cookies with my family after being sleeved. However, not once did I even take a bite. I have helped my wife in the bakery she owns, but did not sample like I did in the past.

Remember significant weight gain can be in the future of all who don't practice sound judgement and self control.

[melodymouse 196]

Melodymouse ... That I so impressive !! What were the rules you followed to get you where you are ?

1. Protein first

2. liquid second

3. Low fat, low sugar foods

4. Plenty of good carbs, fruits & veggies

5. Minimal simple carbs, grains & starches

6. Moderate exercise, something I could live with the rest of my life- walking, bicycling or just plain old keeping busy

And most important

7. Keeping a positive attitude and believing in myself!

[melodymouse 196]

I have a question because my Surgeons Preop diet is midnight before my surgery Im positive he wouldnt risk my liver

You obviously were not a High Risk person for liver damage. Individual medical history is such a vital piece to this puzzle and why a "one size fits all" approach doesn't work.

[NtvTxn 1,262]

Melodymouse ... That I so impressive !! What were the rules you followed to get you where you are ?

I reached goal, five lbs under actually.....in six months. My 'rules' were imposed by ME, not the doctor. I strictly followed the program after surgery, the first six weeks, liquids, full liquids, soft food etc. I know that I had all those staples in me and I did not want to risk doing something to cause a leak, I didn't want anything 'lodging' in the staples, whatever CAN happen, I wanted to try and avoid. I am never one to think it can't happen to me....I'm of the mind set "Why not me, I'm not special" LoL

That said, I had myself on a no nonsense diet, nothing sweet, at all, not one thing, for six months. Nothing carbonated, that was the only "RULE" the only "No No" I was given.

Now I'm at goal, I make decisions, choices. Everyone, us former fatties and naturally thin folks, we should all make choices every day forever. That helps us avoid gaining weight, helps us avoid heart disease. I. E. 85% lean hamburger makes a killer tasting hamburger, but meat that is 93% lean is a wiser choice and it is far from yucky!! It's just a wiser choice, that is across the board, for everyone. My husband has a stent, he did not have a heart attack, by the grace of God, but he had a 95% blockage. I learned more than I ever thought I'd need to know for his cardiac dietitian.

More rule I imposed on myself, others might call them rules, I call them my new normal. I weigh or measure my food, every day....when we eat at home. I log my food on line, all of this is fun for me. I do not exercise, so I knew I'd need to make changes I could live with, forever. This is not a diet, it is how I live, forever.

I can't give anyone a list of rules, all I can do is say what has worked for me for almost three years. It's my story and how I do things. I'm sure others would think I'm a nut, but that's ok.

[NtvTxn 1,262]

You obviously were not a High Risk person for liver damage. Individual medical history is such a vital piece to this puzzle and why a "one size fits all" approach doesn't work.

Ok, I thought all of us, at least everyone that is overweight, has a 'fatty' liver and they have to move it to get to our tummy, and it's easier with a "lean, mean" liver!!! LoL Did I misunderstand??!!!

[NtvTxn 1,262]

There's some really angry, anal-retentive folks on this forum.

Just an observation.

Why does this 'term' make my skin crawl? Ick!

The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis

Although the term "anal retentive" survives in common usage, the concept, along with much of Freud's theories of psychoanalysis, is largely regarded as unscientific "pop-psychology" and therefore discredited by the majority of psychologists of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.^[3] Chicago psychoanalyst Robert Galatzer-Levy speaks of how this theory of Freud is mostly a product of its time when indoor plumbing was new and less numerous per household, and families were large, causing "much more control of defecation than was necessary in a world of chamber pots and outhouses."^[4]

If these qualities continue into later life, the person is said to be "anal-retentive". Conversely, those who reject anal-retentive characteristics are said to have "anal-expulsive" personality types.

I prefer to tell somebody or I'd just rather someone tell me I'm full of ****, call a spade a spade. That's what we do in Texas....well, maybe we just say "Bless your heart"

[KarissaKhaos 170]

Ok' date=' I thought all of us, at least everyone that is overweight, has a 'fatty' liver and they have to move it to get to our tummy, and it's easier with a "lean, mean" liver!!! LoL Did I misunderstand??!!![/quote']

Not all of us have one. I didn't, I was overweight but they said my liver was healthy looking when they went in.

[NtvTxn 1,262]

1. Pussification

pussification(noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin.

"We are undergoing a pussification of our entire society."

2. Pussification

The state of mind that a man undergoes when he has lost any control that he ever had in a relationship with a woman. The point in a relationship where a man becomes his mates personal b***h. Once pussification takes over the man will spend every waking minute thinking of ways to please his mate.

"Hey Mike, wanna grab a beer after work?"

"Thanks guys, but I can't, I have to hurry home to give the cat a bath so that I'll have time to watch Seventh Heaven with the princess"

"Holy ****!! Mike!! You've got pussification. We need to get alcohol in you right away"

3. Pussification

Taken from a George Carlin bit, referring to the reversal of roles and attitudes specifically of the American male due to being overly "politically correct."

Using soft language and avoiding confrontation and critisizm has resulted in the complete pussification of the american youth, as manifested by "emo", and "cyberbullying"

emo pussification wuss sissy *****-whipped

4. Pussification

To become a *****, wus, coward, whimp etc.

We are witnesses to the mass pussification of males as a result of the fload of female hormones in our Water from the consumer use of the birth control pill.

Draft Dogers? That's pussification straight up!

This entire post makes me giggle, thanks!

[Fiddleman 4,376]

I reached goal' date=' five lbs under actually.....in six months. My 'rules' were imposed by ME, not the doctor. I strictly followed the program after surgery, the first six weeks, liquids, full liquids, soft food etc. I know that I had all those staples in me and I did not want to risk doing something to cause a leak, I didn't want anything 'lodging' in the staples, whatever CAN happen, I wanted to try and avoid. I am never one to think it can't happen to me....I'm of the mind set "Why not me, I'm not special" LoL

That said, I had myself on a no nonsense diet, nothing sweet, at all, not one thing, for six months. Nothing carbonated, that was the only "RULE" the only "No No" I was given.

Now I'm at goal, I make decisions, choices. Everyone, us former fatties and naturally thin folks, we should all make choices every day forever. That helps us avoid gaining weight, helps us avoid heart disease. I. E. 85% lean hamburger makes a killer tasting hamburger, but meat that is 93% lean is a wiser choice and it is far from yucky!! It's just a wiser choice, that is across the board, for everyone. My husband has a stent, he did not have a heart attack, by the grace of God, but he had a 95% blockage. I learned more than I ever thought I'd need to know for his cardiac dietitian.

More rule I imposed on myself, others might call them rules, I call them my new normal. I weigh or measure my food, every day....when we eat at home. I log my food on line, all of this is fun for me. I do not exercise, so I knew I'd need to make changes I could live with, forever. This is not a diet, it is how I live, forever.

I can't give anyone a list of rules, all I can do is say what has worked for me for almost three years. It's my story and how I do things. I'm sure others would think I'm a nut, but that's ok.[/quote']

You are not a nut. Good set of rules to follow. Mine are similar.