msdw59 11 Posted January 22, 2012 I would have to agree on the 15/30 rule\ 15 minutes wait once you have drank 30 minute wait once you have eaten When I break the rules the misery ensues: SLIME! ACID REFLUX!, VOMITING! NOT PLEASANT AT ALL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purdy in Pink 57 Posted January 22, 2012 Well, I must be the odd one out here. I have always drank Water w/ all my meals, My Dr. said it was fine as long as I got in my Protein. (I would get full faster, which was not a bad thing in my opinion) but I did get in all my daily required pritein. Sever months ago, this same question came up, so when I went to my DR. for my next check up, I asked again because I wanted to be sure I wasent doing something wrong. He still said it was fine do drink w/ meals as long as i was getting in the pritein. so, as far as i'm concerned, it worked for me, i made goal in 6 months 10 days, lost 70 lbs doing it this way. But, please do as your Dr. instructed, every Dr. has a different style and opinion on what is best for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LindaS 316 Posted January 22, 2012 I drink when I eat. I do drink less, but I like taking small sips when eating. If I am eating at a restaurant, I order Water because I don't drink enough to bother ordering an entire drink. I don't get sick (and never have). What I don't get when talking about this is how Protein shakes fit in. If drinking makes the food go through fast, and we don't feel full than how do we feel full when we drink an all liquid meal? If this were true, we wouldn't feel full after drinking Protein Shakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachWithMyBabies 24 Posted January 22, 2012 You don't really want the food to slide - it will possibly build bad habits later when your stomach can hold a bit more. It also rushes the food through your stomach so it doesn't have enough time to absorb all of the nutrients or keep that full feeling longer. My doctor said no liquids 30 min before and after, my nurse told me no liquids 15 min before and 30 min after and a liberal NUT I spoke to said liquids up to 5 min before is okay, but still no liquids 30 min after. Personally, I've experimented with all of them. From my experience, no liquids 15 min before and 30 min after seems best - for fullness, meal satisfaction and social ease. It takes a bit of getting used to, but it's a habit worth building into your routine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoserMama 37 Posted January 22, 2012 Part of the no drinking thing is you are washing the nutrients down faster and they arent getting absorbed into your body. It is a hard rule to get used to but worth it We can only eat a little bit of food it is worth it to just not drink so your body is soaking up all it needs. Dont want to get malnutrition. I don't think it's so much about nutrients sliding through...is it?? Dont the nutrients get absorbed in the intestines? I think it's more about the liquids letting foods slide thru faster, so you don't feel full long enough?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms skinniness 3,003 Posted January 22, 2012 Alot of nutrients are absorbed in the small intestine. The reason for not drinking fluids with the meal is so that the food isn't flushed down to the small intestine where your stomach isn't giving a full signal, therefore, we eat more. That could add to increased weight gain or no weight loss at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVikingFan 14 Posted January 22, 2012 My doc says no drinking 30 minutes before, during the 30 minutes you are eating, and none 30 minutes after. When I was first sleeved it made it kinda hard to get enough liquids in. Now that I am 6 months out I can drink quite a lot, and I do. Iced tea all day long! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SleeveDreamer 383 Posted January 23, 2012 I too was told 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after. I understand the reason but it is very hard for me to get used to also. I want a drink right after I am done eating! But I don't! Will it always be like that or will that change several months out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doggz109 41 Posted January 23, 2012 You cannot drink until at least 30 min - 1 hour after eating a solid meal. It's just the way it is and it is for life. This is definitely something your surgeon or program should have gone over with you. EDIT: I just saw what doctor you went to.....so yeah. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
former_vbg 198 Posted January 23, 2012 Please don't speak in absolutes as if this is for everyone. As noted, there are some of us that have been quite successful and do drink with our meals and have not had any issues. Speaking for myself, sipping small drinks is all I can manage, but I DO drink before, during and after and do not have issues. I also have not experienced any stretching of my stomach because I am taking very small bites, and chewing well. My surgeon didn't have any issues with drinking with meals as long as I was getting in my Protein first, small bites and chewing well. You cannot drink until at least 30 min - 1 hour after eating a solid meal. It's just the way it is and it is for life. This is definitely something your surgeon or program should have gone over with you. EDIT: I just saw what doctor you went to.....so yeah. Sorry. 1 LindaS reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pookeyism 1,143 Posted January 23, 2012 Here are some facts: You no longer have a normal stomach. It has been elongated into a sleeve that ends in a small pouch. It changes how your body needs you to treat it and food. There are alot of sleevers that are not doing what the should, but doing what they can or "this works for me" - and yet it probably isn't working as well as they think it is. You can do alot of damage and not realize it for quite awhile. One of the basic rules for not drinking before or after is that Water is pushed forward and created more gastric fluxuations and ripples when introduced with food. You can push undigested food out of your stomach into your intestines before it is ready. It was not such an issue when you had a full stomach and had a place for the food to digest as the Water and liquids created by digestion passed. You probabaly can have a small amount of water - sipped in small amounts and anticipated with small bites - but only if the sip is incorporated into the bite, to moisten your bite as you chew it. no one can give a definite answer to this question because no one is observing exactly what is going on with each individual person. There are volumous textbooks dedicated to the function of the digestive system, and our doctors are not that type of specialist, they are surgeons so their approvals of things are often slipsided and sometimes misinformed. One thing I plan on doing as I go into eating again is sticking to the mantra "protien first" and incorporating papaya extract into my meal for the evening. It has compounds that are very good for digestion - I give it to my flemish giant rabbits, too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
former_vbg 198 Posted January 23, 2012 If this is directed at my post, then post some published studies that state drinking while eating causes damage to the stomach, stretching, etc. Your post comes across as rather high and mighty without anything to back it up. As I said, my surgeon doesn't believe drinking sips with eating causes any problems and he has been around a long time doing this. Here are some facts: You no longer have a normal stomach. It has been elongated into a sleeve that ends in a small pouch. It changes how your body needs you to treat it and food. There are alot of sleevers that are not doing what the should, but doing what they can or "this works for me" - and yet it probably isn't working as well as they think it is. You can do alot of damage and not realize it for quite awhile. One of the basic rules for not drinking before or after is that Water is pushed forward and created more gastric fluxuations and ripples when introduced with food. You can push undigested food out of your stomach into your intestines before it is ready. It was not such an issue when you had a full stomach and had a place for the food to digest as the Water and liquids created by digestion passed. You probabaly can have a small amount of water - sipped in small amounts and anticipated with small bites - but only if the sip is incorporated into the bite, to moisten your bite as you chew it. no one can give a definite answer to this question because no one is observing exactly what is going on with each individual person. There are volumous textbooks dedicated to the function of the digestive system, and our doctors are not that type of specialist, they are surgeons so their approvals of things are often slipsided and sometimes misinformed. One thing I plan on doing as I go into eating again is sticking to the mantra "protien first" and incorporating papaya extract into my meal for the evening. It has compounds that are very good for digestion - I give it to my flemish giant rabbits, too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afro_Cyster 74 Posted January 23, 2012 LOL......calm down......I consider this a support group, but if you don't believe in anything someone has said then there is a special website called Google that can help you find the answer. 1 fluffylibra30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluffylibra30 323 Posted January 23, 2012 Inless you get an Xray who really knows what it is doing to your new little tummy, if it has stretched or not? How do you know FOR SURE if you are getting all the Vitamins and nutrients we need from the little bit of food we eat inless you get blood work and all your levels are good? Just because it works for someone doesnt mean you should be doing it. It just seems 9 out of 10 docs are saying DONT DRINK, so im not going to chance it, its such a small thing its not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjstrans4mation 21 Posted January 23, 2012 My surgeon instructed the 30/30 rule for life. He said it was to keep my sleeve from stretching. I'm 10 weeks out and thus far, it's working. I'm sure that later I may be a bit more free about this. But for now, it's working. Blessings2u--BJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites