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Wheezy, you know the generic "Exact" brand from the Superstore/ExtraFoods/Loblaws(I believe). That's all I've ever tried, and cause it was the cheapest... maybe I'm just easy! (it is extra-strength though ?)

Lila.... I'm not an afternoon coffee drinker, at all.. and nothing coke-like for me anymore. (huge for me too, althought I might have the odd sip here and there. It just doesn't appeal to me anymore, especially when you can't chug it!)

I took the natural one 2 hours before I wanted to go to bed, cause that's what I did with the un-natural one, and didn't feel anything when it came time to go to sleep. I'll try the good old fashioned 'lying there' again tonight. Wish me luck! (and plentiful bowel movements! I've never tried MoM, hope it works!) LOL

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Mandi, good luck with the MoM....it DOES work. I only used it once (shortly after being banded) and refuse to EVER use it again....it was so beyond disgusting for me. Luckily the senoket (or however u spell it) works well for me....it takes up to 20 hrs to work on me but it does work!!

Unfortunately, now your body is getting used to the habit of waiting an hour lying there to fall asleep....you will have to re-train it. Make sure you don't use your bed for anything BUT falling asleep and sleeping (& sex, obviously!!! hehe).....what I mean is, don't read in bed, don't watch TV in bed etc.....

I have sleep apnea and use a CPAP machine so I now have awesome sleeps (have used it for about 5 yrs now). Before that, I had the same troubles as you. Have you had a sleep test done?

Anyways....good luck on both counts!

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Oh Mandi I was hoping I was telling you something that was going to help. I am sad for you now.;) Have you tried white noise?? I have a fan going in bedroom to block out all the little house noises and traffic. I really want to help you. Another thing I do is repeat a prayer over and over again or a sentance like "my mind is clear" Tonite I will repeat "I hope Mandi is sleeping." Maybe you need a back rub while you are lying in bed, this always help my kids. Ask Dan if he'll give you a non-sexual back rub. (my husband believes if I allow him to touch me, even accidentally in bed, in means, you know)

Sending you sleepy vibes.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~You are getting sleepy......ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Wheezy, you know the generic "Exact" brand from the Superstore/ExtraFoods/Loblaws(I believe). That's all I've ever tried, and cause it was the cheapest... maybe I'm just easy! (it is extra-strength though ?)

I took the natural one 2 hours before I wanted to go to bed, cause that's what I did with the un-natural one, and didn't feel anything when it came time to go to sleep. I'll try the good old fashioned 'lying there' again tonight. Wish me luck! (and plentiful bowel movements! I've never tried MoM, hope it works!) LOL

Actually Mandi, I didn't know the "Exact" brand and none of those store exists where I live. I wish I would've known today when I was in Ottawa. Oh well, I'll be back there soon for business so I'll look it up then.

I hope you bought a flavored M.O.M. like cherry or something like that. I bought the "original" flavor once by mistake and it tasted terrible. MOM works for me all the time and it's a good source of magnesium. Magnesium that's a really big gymnasium, isn't it?

As for sleep, I used to be a really bad sleeper. Couldn't turn my mind off until I learned some relaxation techniques. Basically, I lay there and imagine that my toes are relaxed then my feet, ankles and do this until I reach my head, eyes, face. The trick is not to move to the next body part until you are convinced that that body part is completely relaxed. It takes time to do this and get good at it but it is well worth it. At first I would reach my head and if I was still awake I would start all over. I asked about the sleeping pill because some nights nothing helps.

So all this to say, happy sleeping and happy the other thing. You are relaxing, you are relaxing :notagree :notagree :notagree

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Unfortunately, now your body is getting used to the habit of waiting an hour lying there to fall asleep....you will have to re-train it. Make sure you don't use your bed for anything BUT falling asleep and sleeping (& sex, obviously!!! hehe).....what I mean is, don't read in bed, don't watch TV in bed etc.....

What I meant was that I've always had to lie in bed and wait to fall asleep... until I discovered wonderful sleeping pills :notagree I can take em, go about my business, and a couple hours later, I'm ready for bed, and asleep before I pull the blankets up! Ahhh.... :eek:

You must forget that I'm sleeping on an air mattress. I spend as little time in my bedroom as possible! I'm sure you're thinking that it's the air mattress that's the problem... and I'm sure it doesn't help, but it's been like this even when I've had good ol' normal beds!

I haven't had a sleep test. Hmm... man... that would be a pain to go through. I mean, I don't even have a family doctor, nevermind someone to determine that I need a sleep test. I don't think it's anything like sleep apnea. I just think too much sometimes, and can't just shut my brain down or 'blank it all out' long enough to fall asleep.

Thanks for the suggestions, Lila. I do actually already do the fan thing... I need the noise, and it helps. I even do the chanting thing. I'll try the non-sexual massage though :) !

Maybe I'll find some of those sleepy-making teas too.

Thanks again guys!

Mandi

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Dum da da da!

Christmas has come early!

and it can't be an imposter! Who else would have gross grown-out toenail polish like that!? (and a tony little scale:heh:)

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CONGRATULAIONS MANDI!!!

ONEDERLAND!!!

WHOOOOOOOO!!!

Awesome!

:clap2: :clap2:

:wow2: :eek: :)

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"WAY TO GO MANDI" :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: that is awesome, you have reached your goal and more. Congratulations:cheer2: :cheer2: "ONEDERLAND":youcandothis: :eek:

Maria :)

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Oh how did you sleep last nite? I couldn't sleep thinking of you on that air mattress. Should I start a collection for a new bed??

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Aunty Green, pharmaceutical queen, may have advice for you, Argon. You should be aware that Zyban is a stimulant and should be taken in the morning. You should also be aware that over the counter sleeping pills tend to raise the blood pressure. If you have elevated blood pressure you should talk to your doc and have him/her prescribe something instead. (I take imovane/zopiclone when I can't sleep. My doc prescribes this for me.) I only run into problems with sleeping when my depression gets out of control but some people have problem with sleeping due to stress issues. This is why it is not a bad idea to talk about your sleep problems with your doc.

You might also try reading a boring book before going to sleep! Sometimes this works for me. lol

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