happyslvr 2 Posted May 22, 2010 I was sleeved on Jan 28th and on March 25th I was at our annual trade show in Vegas...... I found out that it is ridiculous how fast it hits you!!! Ugh!!! I am not a drinker anyway and now.... SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted May 23, 2010 Great information!!! You just answered some of the questions I've been wanting to ask the dietician but my next appointment isn't for another 4 weeks. I have been totally shocked to find that I just can't tolerate coffee. I really enjoy a nice cup of coffee so I've tried 3 or 4 times since my surgery - but I have to throw it out after a couple of sips. Now I know why and I will stop trying. Thank you so much for shedding light on this for me. I also usually have a couple of glasses of red wine once a week on Bridge night. I haven't even tried that yet but knowing that it wreaks havoc on Iron absorption will keep me from wondering any further. What about white wine or chanpagne? Bad for other reasons I suspect? I've also tried to drink tea but haven't been able to do that either. If I get desperatge for a warm cup of joe I will try tea with lemon instead and see if that is tolerable. If you were right here I'd try to give you a big hug. This has been so helpful! It's amazing what we don't know and how much easier things are when we have the information we need to do this thing right! Thanks!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happyslvr 2 Posted May 23, 2010 Even though I introduced myself quite some time ago I haven't posted because I just haven't had anything to add.....LOL....however, I work in a winery so I'll try and shed light on the red wine issue: Red wines contain higher amounts of a natural preservative called tannis If ingested in excessive quantities, tannins inhibits the absorption of minerals such as Iron which may, if prolonged, lead to anemia. Tannic acid does not affect absorption of other trace minerals such as zinc, copper, and manganese. Also coffee and tea have high amounts of tannic acid. Foods rich in Vitamin C help neutralize tannin's effects on Iron absorption. Adding lemon juice to tea will reduce the negative effect of tannins in iron absorption as well. Adding milk to coffee and tea has very little to no influence on the inhibitory effect of tannins. In sensitive individuals, a large intake of tannins may cause bowel irritation, kidney irritation, liver damage, irritation of the stomach and gastrointestinal pain. My surgeon pointed out that some individuals develope a sensitivity to tannic acid after VSG and Bypass - hence the advice to stay away from red wine. Have no idea if you wanted to know all that but there you go!:thumbup: Really good info!!! Thanks so much for sharing!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juani 1 Posted May 23, 2010 One drink and u will be thinking of Tinkerbell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiffykins 673 Posted May 23, 2010 Even though I introduced myself quite some time ago I haven't posted because I just haven't had anything to add.....LOL....however, I work in a winery so I'll try and shed light on the red wine issue: Red wines contain higher amounts of a natural preservative called tannis If ingested in excessive quantities, tannins inhibits the absorption of minerals such as Iron which may, if prolonged, lead to anemia. Tannic acid does not affect absorption of other trace minerals such as zinc, copper, and manganese. Also coffee and tea have high amounts of tannic acid. Foods rich in Vitamin C help neutralize tannin's effects on Iron absorption. Adding lemon juice to tea will reduce the negative effect of tannins in iron absorption as well. Adding milk to coffee and tea has very little to no influence on the inhibitory effect of tannins. In sensitive individuals, a large intake of tannins may cause bowel irritation, kidney irritation, liver damage, irritation of the stomach and gastrointestinal pain. My surgeon pointed out that some individuals develope a sensitivity to tannic acid after VSG and Bypass - hence the advice to stay away from red wine. Have no idea if you wanted to know all that but there you go!:confused1: That is awesome information. I never thought about the tannic acid factor. But, it makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam30204 0 Posted May 23, 2010 I'm so glad you asked this! We are huge college football fans and we have season tickets and tailgate at all home games. I was hoping to still be able to partake a bit during that time! I dont drink other wise but I do enjoy my morning bloody mary in the a.m. on game days! :confused1: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted May 24, 2010 Ohhh, I wonder if a Bloody Mary would be a good choice. It has lemon or lime usually, celery and V-8 or Tomato juice. Anybody have an answer to that?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbiehage 1 Posted May 24, 2010 Hi Iowagirl, how are you doing? Good to hear from you have you had your surgery yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiffykins 673 Posted May 24, 2010 There is no way I could handle the acidic level of a bloody mary even at this stage of the game at almost a year out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bornagainbabe 4 Posted May 24, 2010 I don't drink at all now. I did drink quite a lot of red wine and was using that and occasionally vodka to help me cope with stress. It affected me really quickly and I didn't need much to feel seriously lightheaded, so lightheaded that just over 5 weeks ago I slipped on the stairs, fell backwards and fractured the base of my skull causing a major csf leak with lasted until last week. I was ashamed. I didn't tell the doctor I had been drinking and made my family promise not to tell anyone. I think I must have blacked out on the way down as I only remember slipping and then finding myself at the bottom of the stairs. From that night I promised myself and my husband that I wouldn't drink again as I just cannot handle it anymore with my new stomach. I gulp. I don't do sipping delicately at anything. I have joined the gym now and intend to use that to help me cope with the stress I feel 24/7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jane_J 117 Posted May 24, 2010 Helen, that's terrible. Hope you are feeling better. I find that I get absolutely slaughtered very fast but it doesn't last long. I have 'persevered' with alcohol and now can do what I want, but I restrict it to weekends and holidays. And I didn't touch it much at all when I was in the main losing phase. Now I am heading to maintenance I am being much laxer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouroborous 519 Posted May 24, 2010 For some reason, my surgeon told me to avoid red wines to begin with. I didn't question his reasoning. I stick with Riesling or this funky German white wine that I love a lot. I have lost my taste for most red wines, and that makes me a sad panda. Interesting. I wonder why with the red wines. I was sort of planning to become a "glass of red wine in the evening" guy, once I'm cleared for it (since my beloved beer is a thing of the past). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jane_J 117 Posted May 24, 2010 Ouroborous, I happily drink red wine, I find white more acidic to be honest. Also I happily drink beer, lager, English bitter which is flatter, Magners lighter cyder, champagne, Sauvignon blanc and various cocktails, but obviously not all at once!! I'm not that bad! I don't find my sleeve does anything except restrict food volume now, and I am still on PPIs which bugs me a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouroborous 519 Posted May 24, 2010 Good to know. I'm (obviously) going to avoid beer for a long, long time, and probably all alcohol for a good six months or so, but it's nice to know that there will be SOME "adult recreational activities" available to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jane_J 117 Posted May 24, 2010 Yes, I am a major party animal now. I have so many parties to catch up on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites