Nsaids????

[stcyt 15]

Okay... I knew it would happen... the time has arrived when I need massive ibuprophine or I am incapacitated (nausea and vomiting at times). My PCP perscribed for me some codine and muscle relaxers figuring it would be safer to stay away from the NSAIDS at least till my stomach completely heals.

Needless to say I was knocked on my A@#. Okay it works... but I cant function.

Then I remembered my pain meds left over from surgery. I had a whole box of Mexican Toradol left. I took some and it really helped. So, I googled toradol today and IT"S A NSIAD!!!!

what gives?

Why whould they give you NSAIDS after surgery if your not allowed to have them for life? :confused1:

[Sleeved and Relieved 0]

They are giving me Supradol (I am in the hospital now) and I thought it was similiar to an NSAID but not one. My niece said the Torodol is the same. I know it works wonderfully! I was planning on taking as needed when I get home. Not sure what the deal is. I will be checking into this too. I just had the sleeve and can take NSAIDs but plan to limit and want to wait until healed.

good luck to you!

[stcyt 15]

Ahhhhh.... so the toradol is a more benign form of NSAID??? Well it worked so I'm a beliver. :lol4:

[Catyroses 1]

My surgeon wanted me to have the sleeve rather than the bypass specifically so that I could take nsaids or steroids in the future if necessary. I have a medical condition that requires a significant course of prednisone every now and again. He explained that nsaids and steroids are very likely to cause ulcers in the bypass pouch, but that is not the case with the sleeve. My gastroenterologist agreed.

[stcyt 15]

OKAY its settled!!!!!! Next month i am taking ibuprophine!!!!!!

[Sleeved and Relieved 0]

Are you using the subliqual (under the tonque) type? This is what I was told to use. It is absorbed differently.

[stcyt 15]

my doc said to let the toradol disolve in my mouth. He probably meant sublingual. Can you get a sublingual NSAID OTC?

[Sleeved and Relieved 0]

OTC Supradol in Mexico and I have seen where it can be ordered online.

I know about needing the NSAIDs, I have really bad headaches when I can't take my Naproxen which the dr. said I can take in 2 weeks but I am not sure how, because the pills are huge and I am not sure about crushing and taste etc. Gotta check it all out when I get home.

[Robbiehage 1]

Finally heard back from my surgeon, he says no NSAIDS for life! He believes that they can cause an ulcer. I believe he is very conservative though because he also recommends no caffeine or alcohol, ever. I am only 8 weeks out today so I am going to wait for a few more months and see how I feel.

[Sleeved and Relieved 0]

I have heard that many of the surgeons feel the same way. I am sure they are being on the cautious side but hey better safe than sorry.

[stcyt 15]

Finally heard back from my surgeon, he says no NSAIDS for life! He believes that they can cause an ulcer. I believe he is very conservative though because he also recommends no caffeine or alcohol, ever. I am only 8 weeks out today so I am going to wait for a few more months and see how I feel.

thanks so much for posting his response. Its so hard to know what to do

[ouroborous 519]

First of all, I am *not* advocating going against your doctor's advice, for two reasons.

1. All else being equal, your doctor probably knows better than you do, and better than some yahoo on the internet.

2. I could get in legal trouble if I advocated you ignore your doctor!

HOWEVER, that being said, we all have to make choices and live with the consequences. I think that it's a given that:

1. Tylenol (acetaminophen/paracetamol/etc.) CAN lead to liver toxicity. It's extremely unlikely to damage your liver unless you OD or run at chronically high doses, but it's still a non-zero risk.

2. A lot of the literature is confusing, as Tiffykins points out -- a lot of surgeons take a "better safe than sorry" attitude, and much of the information is stolen whole cloth from RNY documents.

3. Different surgeons and doctors/pharmacists give different advice.

That all being taken into account, you have to use your own judgment about the risks vs. rewards. Nothing in life is perfectly safe.

Edit: my doctor responded to an email about this issue. I've omitted his name/email, but here's his response, verbatim:

Hey Tom

You are right to try to avoid NSAID’s

For my patients that really need them, I recommend getting it in a liquid form or chewable so it has much less of an opportunity to damage the stomach (NSAID’s have a potential caustic contact effect). Take it with plenty of liquids as well

Four months post op you should be able to take it in this form, but I would then remain on a PPI (like omeprazole) to buffer it somewhat

<my doctor>, MD, FACS

[wannalise 15]

WOW!!!!!!! Tom you look amazing. Hadn't seen you post in a while. Thanks for following up on this question. And WOW you look great.

Anna

[ouroborous 519]

WOW!!!!!!! Tom you look amazing. Hadn't seen you post in a while. Thanks for following up on this question. And WOW you look great.

Anna

Thanks I live with myself every day, and I tend to downplay my gains (er, losses). But the truth is that when I look at that picture of my face compared to even the old one from here (which is me at around 285) or especially the one on my work badge (which is me at 330), I can see a HUGE difference. My face is much less round.

I need to update my weight ticker, too. Tomorrow is weigh day, and I'm hoping to (finally) be under 270.

You're looking great too! Looking at your albums, your "then and now" pictures show an incredible improvement!

What a difference a few months make, eh?

[Donna4545 13]

I googled this and saw saw a few medical articles saying that there was a risk of ulcers from NSAIDs, so the docs who are saying none for life are taking a "better safe than sorry" stance. "Increased risk" doesn't mean "going to happen" but if I can eliminate a risk, I'm all for it. Obviously some physicians don't feel the risk is large enough to worry about.