did I do damage?

[cduval04 7]

hello,

I had my surgery 19 months ago (to the day actually), and yes I am a slow loser, but am not going up and do continue to lose, albeit slowly, I have lost about 42lbs since surgery and have gone from a BMI of 47 down to 41.

and here is my question: I hardly ever drink booze, I maybe imbibe once or twice a year and try to take very good care of my stomach. but thursday night was one of those nights where I decided to break that personal rule.In addition I did everything else that is ill advised if you want to reduce your chances of feeling like death in the am. I had not eaten anything since about 6:30=empty pouch. I did not drink Water in between drinks. Then from the hours of about midnight to 4am I drank 5 nips of 70 proof vodka with punch, 1 nip of whiskey with cola and a hard cider (my friend works at a liquor store and gets free stuff), I proceeded to go to sleep at about 4am, still with nothing in my tummy and the spins.I ruffled around in my purse to try and find some of my zantac or pepcid but I had forgotten it. Large mistake. I woke up at 11am and when I sat up almost instantly puked. It was black, and granular. I puked like this 2 or 3 more times over the next hour. On the way home my friend stopped and got me a gatorade, I took one sip, and about 15 minutes later that came up too, it was gatorade with little black flecks in it. That was the last time I puked.

My friend said I was fine, and that what I was seeing was the cola from last night, Except I has only had about 6-8 ounces of cola, but that was 7 hours previous. I have a history of ulcers and bleeding in my family (my dad had his first bleed when he was 18, bled in the same spot when he was 43, 50, and 55). And almost died once. I overuse nsaids, although since surgery I take about half the amount that I used to and try to take them with zantac or pepcid b/c my bariatric doc said that's ok. I had an endoscopy about 8 month before my LAGB surgery and it showed mild erosion in the antral area of my stomach. I do have GERD but refuse to take PPI's regularly (I am against them for several reasons) and use zantac and pecid as needed, and was told this was ok by my doc

Problem is, I hate the doc and the hospital, and I am a very anxious person especially when it comes to this because I watched what my dad went through, which means I can over-react a bit. I have felt a little woozy and like butterflies in my stomach, but that could just be anxiety, because I'm thinking of what ifs. & My BP runs very low anyway .I guess my main question is, Would I have thrown up cola 7 hours after drinking it? is that even possible? one would think it would be way past my pouch by that point, but is that even possible? I am posting here because I really don't want to go running to the doc unless absolutely necessary. (I once peed pink like 10 years ago and freaked went to the ER, and then realized I had eaten beets lol). AM I over reacting about my black/dark dark brown, somewhat granular vomit? Could it be anything else than blood? Please help tell me what I should do..thanks!

P.S. Sry for the long post, I tend to be quite wordy :-)

[gowalking 10,790]

Call the doctor. Don't mess around especially with your history. You can bleed out and you know it. Better safe than sorry.

[Lady VS 1,147]

I think it was the fact that you hadn't eaten any food and just drank, drank, drank. If you are not in pain or, or not throwing up again, then you have probably vomited it all out of your system. I would however not do that again, and would stick to liquids such as Protein Shakes, broths and other Soups for a couple of days to give your stomach rest and then try to eat some soft foods and then go back to your regular diet. Good luck.

[dawalsh 919]

hello' date='

I had my surgery 19 months ago (to the day actually), and yes I am a slow loser, but am not going up and do continue to lose, albeit slowly, I have lost about 42lbs since surgery and have gone from a BMI of 47 down to 41.

and here is my question: I hardly ever drink booze, I maybe imbibe once or twice a year and try to take very good care of my stomach. but thursday night was one of those nights where I decided to break that personal rule.In addition I did everything else that is ill advised if you want to reduce your chances of feeling like death in the am. I had not eaten anything since about 6:30=empty pouch. I did not drink Water in between drinks. Then from the hours of about midnight to 4am I drank 5 nips of 70 proof vodka with punch, 1 nip of whiskey with cola and a hard cider (my friend works at a liquor store and gets free stuff), I proceeded to go to sleep at about 4am, still with nothing in my tummy and the spins.I ruffled around in my purse to try and find some of my zantac or pepcid but I had forgotten it. Large mistake. I woke up at 11am and when I sat up almost instantly puked. It was black, and granular. I puked like this 2 or 3 more times over the next hour. On the way home my friend stopped and got me a gatorade, I took one sip, and about 15 minutes later that came up too, it was gatorade with little black flecks in it. That was the last time I puked.

My friend said I was fine, and that what I was seeing was the cola from last night, Except I has only had about 6-8 ounces of cola, but that was 7 hours previous. I have a history of ulcers and bleeding in my family (my dad had his first bleed when he was 18, bled in the same spot when he was 43, 50, and 55). And almost died once. I overuse nsaids, although since surgery I take about half the amount that I used to and try to take them with zantac or pepcid b/c my bariatric doc said that's ok. I had an endoscopy about 8 month before my LAGB surgery and it showed mild erosion in the antral area of my stomach. I do have GERD but refuse to take PPI's regularly (I am against them for several reasons) and use zantac and pecid as needed, and was told this was ok by my doc

Problem is, I hate the doc and the hospital, and I am a very anxious person especially when it comes to this because I watched what my dad went through, which means I can over-react a bit. I have felt a little woozy and like butterflies in my stomach, but that could just be anxiety, because I'm thinking of what ifs. & My BP runs very low anyway .I guess my main question is, Would I have thrown up cola 7 hours after drinking it? is that even possible? one would think it would be way past my pouch by that point, but is that even possible? I am posting here because I really don't want to go running to the doc unless absolutely necessary. (I once peed pink like 10 years ago and freaked went to the ER, and then realized I had eaten beets lol). AM I over reacting about my black/dark dark brown, somewhat granular vomit? Could it be anything else than blood? Please help tell me what I should do..thanks!

P.S. Sry for the long post, I tend to be quite wordy :-)[/quote']

OMG Are you serious? You have got to get to a doctor immediately if not sooner! Just because you don't like a doctor is no reason to avoid going to him for something as serious as you described.

Furthermore, I'm not a doctor so I'm not going to give my opinion of what it could or couldn't be.

Not only could you have a bleeding ulcer your band may be showing erosion. I mean, NSAIDS, alcohol, empty stomach, you seem like a disaster waiting to happen. Sorry to be so harsh but you're playing with fire!

[beanie80 146]

Black, granular vomit is blood. I see it a lot with a GI bleeds. You need to call your doctor immediately.

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I agree, you need to deal with your dislike of doctors and get into one right away. Especially since you already have some erosion, a family history of bleeds, take NSAIDS, and have the band. Drinking just added gasoline to the fire.

Black granular vomit is often a sign of old blood and nothing to mess with.

I don't mean this negatively nor am I trying to scare you- but you're seriously a ticking time bomb. If you don't take care of this immediately the consequences could be severe down the road.

[beanie80 146]

Cduval04--did you go to the doctor? are you doing ok???

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Cduval04--did you go to the doctor? are you doing ok???

I was wondering the same thing. This thread is very worrisome.

[dawalsh 919]

I'm hoping you went to the doctor. I mean it sounds more like you should go the ER if you're "waiting" for an appointment. The situation you describe cannot and should not wait!

[mom2dle 7]

...sure hoping to hear some positive news from the original poster. Thoughts are with you.

[cduval04 7]

thanks everyone. I am ok. I chose not to go to the ER. Now wait - before you judge, I recovered late friday evening, and i have felt ok since. My mom is a nurse, my vitals have been ok, BP, pulse, o2sat, and no more vomiting, my fingernails are pink, not white,appetite has been fine & I have had one BM since friday and it was not black. Also, I need to go for a physical anyway, so I will bring it up then, make sure they get a BMP, & CBC at the least.

To clarify, I not only dislike doctors, I despise the disrespect a lot of them have shown me when diagnosing and "un" diagnosing me with various illnesses. My brush with depression, anxiety and a previous history of psych issues, has made many doctors judge me when nothing is immediately wrong, I have almost died (had I not sought a second opinion or had someone in my family know to) at least once that I can think of right now.

I have had doctors that look only at tests on paper and tell me I am fine, making no effort to concern themselves with how I might be feeling. I also don't trust the medical system as a whole in this country, believe that there is enormous amounts of corruption, and that a lot of health professionals make their decisions at the mercy of insurance and big pharm, and not based on their better judgement, for fear of putting their careers in jeopardy.

So no I am not going to see something scary, and go running off to the ER at the drop of a hat. I know in a way what I am saying sounds crazy, but the only one who has made me not only dislike, but distrust doctors, unfortunately is, doctors. And if I go for my physical, and turn out to be really sick, the only one I will have to blame is myself.

Thank you so guys all so much for expressing genuine concern, it is more than I could expect, especially from most doctor's offices.