GeezerSue 7 Posted February 25, 2004 I had heard--from patients--about patients being treated this way and was somewhat skeptical. Then I was treated this way, so I asked another surgeon. It seems that this concept was proposed at an ASBS conference, until the doctor proposing it was shouted down by his (banded) colleagues. I sent this message to the doctor who tried this with me. Please note that, at no time, did I accuse him of engaging any inappropriate behavior, INCLUDING this practice. He wrote back and was livid. Feel free to jump to your own conclusions: The "Psychological Lap-Band Adjustment," a Patient's Perspective There are those doctors within the community of surgeons specializing in the adjustable gastric band, who are promoting the adoption of the "Psychological Fill" or "Psychological Adjustment." Although their motives are pure, they could not be more misguided. Inadvertently, they are doing a disservice to their patients, to the manufacturer of the band and to themselves. The theory appears to include the following false assumptions: 1) there is not a physical cause component of obesity; 2) what patients most need is to retrain their brains to believe that they are full when they are not; 3) obese people are below average in intelligence; 4) obese people respond positively to negative intimidation tactics; 5) the Lap-Band patient is unable to determine when restriction wanes; 6) obese people do not speak to each other or compare experiences with each other; 7) it is ethical for surgeons to mislead or withhold information from patients; 8) training as a surgeon prepares one to practice psychology; and, 9) surgeons are competent actors. The technique being suggested includes the surgeon's telling the patient that s/he is "the only patient" who is not cooperating, or "the worst patient," or "the least compliant patient" encountered by the surgeon. The surgeon then removes saline from the band, and subsequently replaces essentially the same amount of saline, but threateningly advises the patient that s/he will barely be able to tolerate food. In some cases the surgeon insists on a follow-up appointment to remove saline a month later, insisting that the fill is so tight that the patient will have to return to have the band loosened so that he or she does not cause damage to the esophagus. There is a placebo precedent in medicine, but if it is appropriate at all, it is appropriate in rare occasions. In the proposed situation, however, the patient is required to be dim-witted enough to believe that the surgeon would intentionally over-fill the band and announce that s/he is overfilling it. The patient is supposed to be psychologically needy enough to do anything to gain the surgeon's approval. The patient is expected to believe what the surgeon says is sufficient restriction rather than his/her her own sense of satiety, when one of the prime benefits of the adjustable band is the restoration of the sensation of satiety. The patient is expected to refrain from communicating with other patients, 'lest numerous patients discover that they all have been declared "the least compliant patient." The patient is expected to present for the band adjustments devoid of any training or experience in the field of psychology. The patient is further expected to present for band adjustments devoid of any training or experience in critiquing dramatic performances. Some surgeons might easily be seduced into thinking that this kind of false paternalism is helpful to patients. So many patients arrive in deep states of need due to their histories or habits of not attending to their own needs sufficiently. However, it is incumbent upon caregivers to have EXCELLENT boundaries and the "Psychological Adjustment" is a clear violation of said limits. One of the biggest advantages of AGBs is the degree to which they empower patients. Patients have control over the rate of weight loss. The band supports change on every level and each patient changes at the rate and in the order that best fits each one's individual needs. The feedback loop is positive and the patient gains confidence, learning to trust oneself over time. A lifetime of psychological undermining regarding food and eating patterns can be healed, and more. By deceiving patients, the "Psychological Adjustment" DIS-empowers patients, making them dependent upon the surgeon's wisdom. The patient is left NOT trusting him/herself and is, in fact, incented to NOT trust him/herself. Faced with the"Psychological Adjustment," the more easily intimidated patient merely drops out and BELIEVES that s/he has become a Lap-Band failure, damaging both the patient and the manufacturer of the product. The other patients--either alone or in discussion with each other--conclude that the surgeon who practices the "Psychological Adjustment" has limited understanding of--and even less respect for--the obese patient. Inevitably, the surgeon will have damaged his own reputation most of all. Three damaged parties in a situation which should have included the concept, "First, do no harm." A shame. So, in case anyone received this kind of treatment, there is precedent. And feel free to complain. Sue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanaMarie 1 Posted February 25, 2004 It makes me so livid that doctors actually think they can treat patients like this! Ok, I'm fat, but I also happen to be pretty smart, and I've taken a few psychology classes myself. I cannot understand why doctors, not to mention the rest of the general public, make such ridiculous generalizations about overweight people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quakergirl 2 Posted February 26, 2004 I had no idea this was going on! This is an outrage. I can't believe that some doctors do this to their patients. What a cruel abuse of power. I hope you will send a copy of this to Inamed so they will be aware that some doctors are misusing their device. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeezerSue 7 Posted February 7, 2005 bumping for review Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeezerSue 7 Posted June 4, 2006 Because it's again time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jachut 487 Posted June 4, 2006 I'd be ropable if I found out they'd done that to me. yet I do believe (for me anyway) the psychological effect of having a band is at least as important as the physical effects. this time I expect to be successful therefore I am. I always expected to fail before therefore I did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisabethsew 50 Posted June 4, 2006 MANY years ago, using placebos to treat patients was an acceptable practice. I can remember many MD orders that read, "Alternate Morphine Sulfate 4 mg IV with normal saline 4 mg IV every 4 hours." Since about 1990, that practice is now considered unethical and no longer practiced in the hospital setting. It's sad that some surgeons employ this technique and I'm glad you called the MD on the carpet for it, Sue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marimaru 7 Posted June 5, 2006 I think if any doctor told me that I was their worst patient, or their least compliant patient, I'd probably walk out the door of the room, to the receptionists desks and request my medical records right there. Of course there ARE people out there, who are the least compliant, and the may need to be told that, but certainly not in the scolding unprofessional manor that I've heard it be said to patients. It's been a while since I read a post where someone's doctor told them they were doing horribly, but I believe it is still out there. Placebo does have it's place, but certainly an adjustable medical implant isn't one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheetsin 714 Posted June 5, 2006 Most people would not want to be treated like that - though there are always exceptions. I do believe there are people out there for whom, even though they have the band, this type of approach is the only thing that will get through to them. A surgeon is perhaps not the best practitioner of such a strongly behavioral intervention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legallyKristin 0 Posted June 6, 2006 OH my goodness. I cannot believe that someone would act so callously. I know more about the lapband than many of my doctors (not my surgeon) and have explained it in its entirity to several other physicians. I'm glad my doc shows me the syringe he uses and shows me how much he puts in. Wow, especially at $205 a pop!! Kristin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites