Not band related, Maybe XXX, maybe some arguing...

[TommyO 5]

Lisa, Interesting comments, I commend your passion and applaud your fearlessness. One of the things that has strikes me about this forum is that what brings us here is a single commonality and that is the band. We are all likely to be overweight as well but the band is what caused most if not all of us to surf to this site. After that the participants of this board may have nothing else in common and as a matter of fact may be quite opposite in our beliefs and our wants.

I am 47 years old and this is the very first time I have been involved in an online discussion forum, it has been challenging to say the least. I much prefer to talk to people face to face. It is really hard to understand the intent of the words when there are no verbal or visual clues. I know that my words can come across as very certain and possibly condescending. This is not my intent but if my words have been interpreted that way I apologize. Some people have been on-line in this sort of forum for much longer than I, hell I have even noticed a married couple here that talk on line and they live together. I am not nearly as internet savvy as that, I prefer to talk with my wife, we go sit in the living room and chat.

Where I come from PM stands for Prime Minister so I don't know what that's all about with any luck I haven't offended anyone with PM's

I believe more than anything that people should feel comfortable discussing whatever they want and it is up to the individual to choose the topics they want to view. If someone is offended by sexual content then they should read one of the hundreds of other threads.

Finally, it's good to know that so many people are enjoying so much sex and in so many different ways. When I was very young and I discovered, for the first time how much pleasure my thing could bring, I secretly decided to do as much of that as possible for as long as possible and as many ways as possible. It's good to know that the secrets out and other folks were able to discover the same thing. Maybe the folks who don't want anyone to talk about it haven't figured it out yet.

[PhotoNut 7]

Lisa, it sounds to me like you are flat out upset, pissed off and scared that youre gaining weight back. The disappointment in the way things went for you with your band (which wasnt the fault of the band) must be overwhelming. And the fear of gaining the weight back has to be pure hell. I can understand that, and both Paul and I have talked about how badly we feel for you and others who have gone through similar issues and had to lose the band.

I think that Mikey said it best in Lou's thread when he said we all take in the information we read here and process it through a filter. That filter being our own hurts, pains, fears, and current struggles. I think when you read Dawg's post about keeping temptation out of the house, your filter caused you to hear something very different that what he put out. Several people heard that post quite differently and have benefitted by it. I'm sorry it upset you so badly, but I know my husband and he is not someone who thinks he knows it all, nor was he looking down his nose at anyone. He was trying to offer help to others by sharing what works for him.

You were very right when you said you were about to hurt people you considered to be your friends. You did exactly that. But then, it doesn't really matter does it? You don't give a damn anyway.

You have every right to be angry about what you've gone through, and right now you're lashing out at others because of it.. which is ok I guess. You can always make new friends. I only hope you get your anger worked out before you turn it on yourself. I mean that sincerely, no sarcasm or underlying jabs in there at all.

[DeLarla 22]

"Lisa, it sounds to me like you are flat out upset, pissed off and scared that youre gaining weight back. The disappointment in the way things went for you with your band (which wasnt the fault of the band) must be overwhelming. And the fear of gaining the weight back has to be pure hell. I can understand that, and both Paul and I have talked about how badly we feel for you and others who have gone through similar issues and had to lose the band."

Susan, you just did exactly what you said everyone else did, which was to take what I wrote and analyze it to mean something else.

"You have every right to be angry about what you've gone through, and right now you're lashing out at others because of it"

Again, WRONG! I'm not lashing out at anyone because I've gained a few pounds! I'm pointing out that nobody has the answers, nobody is perfect, no morbidly obese person whether past, present or future should claim to know what it takes to be thin, and that "never" means squat.

This wasn't a personal attack at your or your husband, so I don't know why you took it that way.

[Desi80 1]

i have no clue whats going on, but i have to say i love the threads that are "off topic" i get sooooooo tired of reading the same old same old as far as questions about the band goes.

So as far as i'm concerned bring on some fun topics if its really that much of a problem, maybe we can set up a new forum for adult content then no one can "accidently" read a thread that offends their morals or whatever.

I believe OH has a forum for discussing sex, so perhaps we should follow their lead and create one too.

[DeLarla 22]

People, not everybody was meant to be thin, otherwise obesity wouldn't exist. I gained 9.5 pounds from my lowest, big whoopee. My body keeps rebounding back to 250 - not 260! Same with Penni, for example. We get into the 230s but feeling hungry all the time drives us crazy, so out of deprivation we go nutzo and eat. Mother Nature wants me around 250 (remember, I'm a 5'10" lumberjack so I can hold more weight that shorties.)

Susan, I wasn't lashing out at you, but I'm not happy about your analysis of my anger because it sends confusing messages. Not having the ability to control portions and gaining a few pounds sucks but it's not what's making me angry, so you were enormously inaccurate. I'm pissed for lots of reasons around LBT, one of them being that I can't talk about anal sex with offending the righteous ones, and "obese people" wasn't referring to one or two people - I lost count of how many around here have answers for others that haven't fixed themselves.

If I count another calorie, I'm sure to see 300 by summer. But if I eat 3 meals a day, no Snacks, and nothing after my pot roast and baked potato, I'll be one happy hot size 20 bitch. I think I can maintain a good 65-pound loss thanks to the band that I'm NOT upset, nor have I ever been upset, about having removed. But I can't maintain dignity in a board full of hypocrisy.

[FunnyDuddies 6]

If you can't handle adult topics then stay out of threads that have XXX or SEX in the title! Every one of us has a penis or a vagina, and a small fraction have a combo of both. We orgasm, masturbate, screw, give head and based on the amount of Anal Ease, Anal Jelly Beads, Anal Stimulators, Body Butter anal lubricant and anal vibrators that I sell every week, millions of people are getting it up the butt. So if that's too much for you to handle then shut off your TV, unplug your Internet, lock up your daughters and wives and live in denial.

Is LBT the right forum for this stuff? Who knows? Who here is perfect (well, I know one person who thinks he is) but has anyone here been given some special key of knowledge? Do you own the one and only book of what we as humans are supposed to act like? Do we have a Cherry 2000 in the room? I THINK NOT! This is supposed to be a weight loss support group. I’m not fat because of the way I eat. I’m fat because the way I think. So if I can’t discuss any and all of the thoughts that make me “ME” in a weight loss support group, then fuck it.

I am glad you feel this way. Open minds are a good thing. But that also appies to threads on dieting and weightloss that you might not agree with. It has to be a two way street. It cannot be "deal with my threads, but I don't have to deal with yours." I know that is extreme, and not what you are saying, but there has to be understanding on both sides. And the Temptation thread has much more to do with weight loss directly than chatting about anal sex. As fun as that topic could get...it would still end up in the lounge.

First and foremost, anyone who comes here thinking they have all the answers is full of W#$@%^. When I read people talking about getting all the bad food out of their house to lose weight I want to throw a coffee mug at the walls (filled with coffee.) I think Nykee said it best when she said she'd just go out and buy something if she really wanted it. Keeping junk food out away from you only works if you live on an and island or some freaky compound with no access to 7-11s and drive through fast food joints. So what if you can avoid junk food while in your house? I don't spend my life indoors. Wal-Fing-Mart isn't even safe because the smell of fresh popcorn kills me. Even the damn beauty parlor passes around trays of Cookies. Movies, casinos, neighbor's & friend's houses, WORK, TV commercials... what about the enormous 18 wheelers we get stuck behind in traffic that have life-size pictures of tantalizing deli spreads or baked goods?

Which brings me to the next subject that pissed the hell out of me, which was the whole stupid, "Why do we allow temptation" debate.

This is probably why Pnut took the post the way she did. That and the PM's she has gotten from other people. I might be wrong, but I am venturing out on a limb here.

The temptation thread left a lot of people really happy, and a lot of people really pissed. Its not the first thread, or the first board to do that. But I think that Dawg had good intentions. It also was a wake up call to a few people who have had great success since that thread was posted. I think that is great. But I have to say one thing. Anger directed at someone who posts a thread, with a hard question to pose for some of us is not expressing a holier than thou position. No one here is better than anyone else. And anyone who feels they have all the answers for everyone is selling something. Dawg, and others in the thread who supported him, stated very clearly that the topic may not be for everyone. I didn't see a holier than thou additude anywhere in any of that.

You are really upset, lisa, and I am not clear as to why, but I hope you have a better day. If posts on this board are making you upset, maybe it is time to take a break. I know a lot of people would be upset about that, but you are the master of your own destiny. I hope that you are able to decide quickly so that you are not living in anger for long.

[sunnykim 0]

Heather

See i recieved a nasty PM from a bible banger when i posted on Delara vagina thread.. I made a coment about my sexuality.. and this bible banger sent me the nastest pm i have ever recieved.. now for a Christian she sure knew how to cuss me out.

But oh well im not here for anyone to validate my lifestyle i say if your offended LEAVE!!!!!!!

Kim

[TommyO 5]

Phew! I feel better now, I thought it was me but now that I know that it's everybody I fell much better. I know this post will go unnoticed but I am actually having fun, for the first time in my life I feel invisible. I think I am going to log this in my NSV chart. Weight Loss to date all of me

[FunnyDuddies 6]

But I can't maintain dignity in a board full of hypocrisy.

Do you see where it is the same thing tho? The sex threads, the religious threads, and the political threads are not for every member of the board...but neither are all of the weight loss threads.

All the threads should be posted, and the original posters should not be thrashed for their starting those threads.

In the immortal words...Can't we all just get along?!? LOL

[FunnyDuddies 6]

i see you tommy.

[DeLarla 22]

Amy, I'm confused why you & Susan are defending Dawg when my topic has nothing to do with him??????

Check out Kim's response if you want a better understanding of where I'm coming from: She recieved a nasty PM from a bible banger when she posted on my vagina thread. Don't Christians have vaginas?

[DeLarla 22]

I see Tommy naked.

[mrycrltn 2]

I see Tommy naked

WHERE..WHERE..WHERE

[sunnykim 0]

Lol... Delara people need to take a chill pill... Everyone is offended by everything nowadays....

Kim

[DeLarla 22]

Over there ----> the one with the penis.

Maybe I should have a dildo for an avatar and write "Masterbate" under it. You know, kinda like a cross with a "Jesus Saves" header?