Sleeve Vs Lapband ? Help

[Formerly Fluffy 5]

I suggest that if you actually want someone to take you seriously, you stop throwing around the phrase of mental illness with such venom!

Some of us are or have people we love dearly with a mental illness and have sufferred through the bigoted and stereotypical views of people such as yourself in regards to said illness.

Please grow up and find some compassion for people along the way and realize that you only discredit your own argument when your biased and disgustingly vile nature in regards to mental illness come out.

I suggest YOU go back and read since u don't know wtf you are talking about. Jean is the one that brought up mental health issues. If you go back and read you can see what she accused me of. SHE is the one that has previously stated that she has mental health issues! Let me also add that this is something I never mention until she accuses me of having mental health issues to deflect from her moronic posts!

I have sympathy and compassion for people that suffer from mental health issues, but that does NOT mean that I intend to let them belittle and insult me with out taking a stand!

[Formerly Fluffy 5]

So, I am clearly confused.....Fluffy, do you even have a band?? There is absolutely nothing in your profile that states your surgeon, your weight....nothing!!! I am just curious....what your starting weight is, did you lose anything at all?? When did you get banded...etc, etc!! Then maybe some of us can have more of an understanding about why the band is NOT working for you....

As I have stated on here. I never reached restriction. As to WHY it is not working. No one knows. If my Dr. doesn't know, and Allergan doesn't know (I have contacted them directly), then I really don't think someone on this forum is going to be able to diagnose me.

[Formerly Fluffy 5]

Dear "Fluffy",

I don't know why you think I was referring to you, you're not the original poster. Please don't tell me not to 'dare'

express my opinion on any subject. I don't see moderator in your title.

I never stated that you were directing your comment to me, now did I? Regardless to who it was directed, it was uncalled for. It is extremely tacky of you to ASSume that someone that has not had success with the band as you have, has not b/c they are too lazy and expects the band to do all the work!

You have been one of the LUCKY ones. Can you not be happy for yourself w/o trashing someone who has had a failed band?!?!?! Or is that what it takes to make you feel superior?

[NWgirl 574]

I suggest YOU go back and read since u don't know wtf you are talking about. Jean is the one that brought up mental health issues. If you go back and read you can see what she accused me of. SHE is the one that has previously stated that she has mental health issues! Let me also add that this is something I never mention until she accuses me of having mental health issues to deflect from her moronic posts!

I have sympathy and compassion for people that suffer from mental health issues, but that does NOT mean that I intend to let them belittle and insult me with out taking a stand!

I read exactly what was said throughout the whole thread. You are the one that followed up her posts with a few posts that made it seem that having a mental illness would be horrific, verifiable by the way you made such statements.

It was obvious her post was a quip at you, but meant to be taken without real regard.

[elcee 3,341]

I am gobsmacked.

It seems that no matter what some people say some other person will manage to take it the wrong way and get offended.

People have made comments on this thread in a nice , polite , respectful manner and they have been "blasted out of the water" .

Sometimes I think people should walk away from their computer, take a couple of deep breaths, think again and then maybe even wait until the next day before they post anything!

[Formerly Fluffy 5]

I read exactly what was said throughout the whole thread. You are the one that followed up her posts with a few posts that made it seem that having a mental illness would be horrific, verifiable by the way you made such statements.

It was obvious her post was a quip at you, but meant to be taken without real regard.

~It was obvious her post was a quip at you, but meant to be taken without real regard.~

Oh really? Is that what you THINK it was? Really?! Well first of all it wasn't! And 2nd of all..........you think that justifies what she said about me??? Now keep in mind that I did NOT direct any statements to her prior to that. Since SHE made the statement about mental illness, it would seem that SHE is the one that make "it seem that having a mental illness would be horrific". Otherwise why would SHE have even made the statement?!

[Cazzy 725]

Oh it's very much luck! It may be working for you up till this point. You have no way of knowing how long your luck will hold out.

And again.....the band does not work for most ppl long term. You'll find out.

Have a nice day!

It is not 'luck' my dear it is dam hard work. Its not luck that watches what i eat, its not luck that makes me control portion sizes and its not luck that makes me cycle 8 miles a day .. its me and my band.

I have worked really hard over the past year to lose the amount of weight i have and to dismiss this as just being 'luck' i find quite offensive to be honest.

[danielle b 32]

OMG.....I am so done with this freaking thread!! Unbelievable....

[Formerly Fluffy 5]

It is not 'luck' my dear it is dam hard work. Its not luck that watches what i eat, its not luck that makes me control portion sizes and its not luck that makes me cycle 8 miles a day .. its me and my band.

I have worked really hard over the past year to lose the amount of weight i have and to dismiss this as just being 'luck' i find quite offensive to be honest.

Oh I have no doubt that you have worked really hard! I'm not discounting that at all, but if you have a band that works at all........you are LUCKY! If your band hasn't failed YET..........you are Lucky! Some of us don't have that luck. I'm glad you do, but then again, that is just part of the picture, and I commend u on the hard work u have put into losing weight!

[Jean McMillan 2,973]

OMG.....I am so done with this freaking thread!! Unbelievable....

Me too. TTBTPS (time to blow this pop stand). Let's all take Alex's good advice, simmer down, and stop giving Maria/Fluffy the attention she thrives on.

[Lollicatt 36]

I don't think my opinion is more valuable than yours but what I do try to do is present facts in a balanced manner without scaring the crap out of people.If you read the original post I made on this thread you should be able to see that that is what I have tried to do.

On the other hand whenever I get an email notification with the name formerlyfluffy I know before I even read it that it will be some kind of antiband rant.

It is obvious that you have had a bad experience with the band, however that should not mean that you try to turn everyone off having a band. Bands have been very successfull for many people. My father had a very bad experience with hip replacement surgery. So bad that he was reoperated on many times and came close to dying. Does that mean that I should now advise people against having hip replacement surgery as they may be the unlucky person that has something go wrong?

You are also keen to promote the sleeve yet it appears that you don't yet have one.Maybe you should hesitate to sing it's praises until you know for sure that it is as wonderful as you think it is.

When it comes to statistics one also has to be very careful of the source. It is a well known fact that the same set of statistics can be manipulated in such a way as to prove whatever the person using the stats wants to prove.When searching on the internet lots of different stats can come up for the same query.

There are also far fewer people on the VSG board than on the band board. And you would probably be pushed to find any other than Tiffykins that has been banded for more than 2 years. So yes some have been through both surgeries and have found the sleeve more to their satisfaction, but the question is will they still be happy in 2 or 3 years time?

It has frequently been said that there is no one size suits all surgery. It is important for each person to look at themselves and evaluate what they are and aren't prepared to do in order to achieve success.This decision combined with the advice of the Dr should be the best guide. Sometimes however mistakes are made. people with bands discover they need the malabsorption from a bypass, people with bypasses discover how to eat around it and decide to get a band over bypass etc. There is no one size suits all absolute solution.

But the best way to make an informed decision is with solid facts rather than scaremongering.

Very well said! Thank you

[Lollicatt 36]

Fluffy, you always express your failed lapband and having no restriction, but I just read some of your blog and it said in a December post that you are now 25 BMI. so what is not working for you? Im confused.......

I also thought I read something about you popping you r Iv 4/5 times during yor VSG surgery, but I tought you hadn't done that yet???

[Lollicatt 36]

Lol. Funny. Now your trying to get me to waste my money on your book? Lmao!

[Lollicatt 36]

Lol. Funny. Now your trying to get me to waste my money on your book? Lmao!

Now that we've called you out you have nothing to say??????

[Lollicatt 36]

Lol. Funny. Now your trying to get me to waste my money on your book? Lmao!

Now that we've called you out you have nothing to say??????