Milk and Orange Juice

[Me3 0]

So I was banded back in April 2010.... losing appropriately and well... ALMOST to onederland..... the past week though has been a HUGE challenge and I know I've narrowed it down but I don't GET IT!

Milk and OJ have ALWAYS been ok.. no issues.. not a care in the world. Watching the calorie content of course but for the past week I've been sliming BADLY whenever I drink milk or OJ.... I eat my normal meal then a few hours later it was a cup of oj and then milk before bed ..

Anyone else had a similar issue post banding and post healing? I know my band isn't too tight because solid foods I can handle.. but this so off the wal... I went straight to H2O this am and the sliming stopped!

Argh!

[Acadia 20]

Your body may be developing an intolerance to them. It's quite common actually. I'd say stop drinking Milk and OJ. You don't need either of them - they're empty calories. You can get the Calcium and Vitamin D you need from Vitamins, which you should be taking anyway, and too much Vitamin C is linked to kidney stones. Chances are, you're getting more than enough just by eating and taking your Vitamins.< /p>

A few things to consider about Orange juice - it's really not good for your system. And I know this could get a lot of responses but take a look at this (fully documented by Tim Ferris - The Four Hour Body):

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT: FRUCTOSE

Can fruit juice really screw up fat-loss?

Oh, yes. And it screws up much more. Not to speculate, I tested the effect of fructose in two tests, the first during a no-fructose diet (no juice, no fruit) and the second after one week of consuming 14 ounces-about 1.5 large glasses-of pulp-free orange juice upon waking and before bed. The orange juice was the only thing distinguishing diets A and B. The changes were incredible.

Before (10/16, no fructose) and after (10/23, orange juice):

Cholesterol: 203 -> 243 (out of “healthy” range)

LDL: 127 -> 165 (also out of range)

There were two other values that shot up unexpectedly:

Albumin: 4.3 -> 4.9 (out of range)

Iron: 71 -> 191 (!) (out of range aka into the stratosphere)

Albumin binds to testosterone and renders it inert, much like SHBG (discussed in “Sex Machine”) but weaker. I don’t want either to be out-of-range high. Bad for the manly arts. If you said “Holy sh*t!” when you saw the Iron jump, we’re in the same boat. This result was completely out of the blue and is not good, especially in men. It might come as a surprise, but men don’t menstruate. This means that men lack a good method for clearing out excessive Iron, which can be toxic. The increase in iron was far more alarming to me than the changes in cholesterol.

Here is just one of several explanations from the research literature:

In addition to contributing to metabolic abnormalities, the consumption of fructose has been reported to affect homeostasis of numerous trace elements. Fructose has been shown to increase iron absorption in humans and experimental animals. Fructose intake [also] decreases the activity of the copper enzyme superoxide dismutase (SOD) and reduces the concentration of serum and hepatic copper.

The moral of the story? Don’t drink fruit juice, and absolutely avoid a high-fructose diet. It doesn’t do the body good.

[Jachut 487]

I didnt have juice hardly at all for the entire five years I had fill in my band - cold juice, cold yogurt, ugh. I dont drink milk by the glass so I cant say. But the things that upset your band when its well restricted may appear to make no sense, but it is what it is. Oh, I could never eat ice cream either - blocked, sliming followed by painful cramps as my stomach spasmed for hours from the dold.

[Acadia 20]

Good point about food temperature. I haven't had any issues with hot or cold foods yet - but then again I don't get a fill until tomorrow.

Something to keep in mind, the band is squeezing on all sorts of nerves, pumps, ducts, vessels, etc. so it's bound to change how your digestive system functions and how well you tolerate different foods.

[Manda87 3]

I can't eat ice cream or milk either. It seems to get stuck, and burping up warm ice cream is nasty.