Wikileaks

[loserbob 11]

I guess as a military person his leaks must be especially disturbing to you.

Like the one a couple of months back of the soldiers in the helicopter opening fire on innocent civilians and reporters and then laughing as they dropped that.

You know, that sounds eerily similar to your earlier comments (which you now deleted) about the enjoyment you would get by watching Julian die and how you would want to be a part of making that happen.

I refuse to argue with someone like you. This conversation is over.

[ariscus99 1]

I must say bob I agree with you 100% on this one. This guy(the American soldier) should, and almost definitely will be court martialed and tried to the fullest extent of the military law, which is different than what could and would happen if he were a civilian. The military can and probably will be much more stern with this POS, and as what he did will more then likely be called treason by a military court, he could be up for execution. As for this other POS julian, I think the US like many other countries have already done should issue a warrant for his arrest and formally try him if he ever tries to come to the US. I challenge anyone to explain to me how this information that has been been leaked and then put on the internet for the world to see benefits US citizens? And don't give some bs "freedom of information" crap. Give a real concrete answer as to how this benefits you as a US citizen, and while your at try and prove that it hasn't put more life's in jeopardy. As for the person who said something about "freedom of information" you can't just put the term "freedom of" in front of something and believe it really is something promised to us in the constitution.

[loserbob 11]

I must say bob I agree with you 100% on this one. This guy(the American soldier) should, and almost definitely will be court martialed and tried to the fullest extent of the military law, which is different than what could and would happen if he were a civilian. The military can and probably will be much more stern with this POS, and as what he did will more then likely be called treason by a military court, he could be up for execution. As for this other POS julian, I think the US like many other countries have already done should issue a warrant for his arrest and formally try him if he ever tries to come to the US. I challenge anyone to explain to me how this information that has been been leaked and then put on the internet for the world to see benefits US citizens? And don't give some bs "freedom of information" crap. Give a real concrete answer as to how this benefits you as a US citizen, and while your at try and prove that it hasn't put more life's in jeopardy. As for the person who said something about "freedom of information" you can't just put the term "freedom of" in front of something and believe it really is something promised to us in the constitution.

Yah, when I say Im registered independent this is my republican side. Security issues.

Part of me likes the fact that now I know the rest of the world feels like we do about Iran and restores hope that we wont let them have nucs.

[ariscus99 1]

Yah, when I say Im registered independent this is my republican side. Security issues.

Part of me likes the fact that now I know the rest of the world feels like we do about Iran and restores hope that we wont let them have nucs.

The downside to this tho, is that when it comes time for talks about what to do about Iran, there is going to be a lot of countries that wont want to deal with us because they'll think (and rightfully so if we allow this bs to continue with wikileaks) we can't be trusted to protect what is being said in any talks. They will also not want us knowing or being able to communicate with any of their informants for the same reason, as long as this crap continues we are going to be weakened when it comes to dealing with anyone with things that should be secure.

[loserbob 11]

I guess as a military person his leaks must be especially disturbing to you.

Like the one a couple of months back of the soldiers in the helicopter opening fire on innocent civilians and reporters and then laughing as they dropped dead.

You know, that sounds eerily similar to your earlier comments (which you now deleted) about the enjoyment you would get by watching Julian die and how you would want to be a part of making that happen.

I refuse to argue with someone like you. This conversation is over.

Whose arguing, Im giving my opinion and your giving yours, at least I thought thats what we were doing! I never intended to start a conversation with you.

[loserbob 11]

Aren't we supposed to have freedom of speech. Give him a medal and stop trying to set him up for crimes he didn't commit.

Julian Assange isnt protected by the U.S. constitution, he's Australian I believe. So no, no freedom of speech for him as far as we're concerned! By the way its reported he's in England being watched by U.K. police.

[ariscus99 1]

Aren't we supposed to have freedom of speech. Give him a medal and stop trying to set him up for crimes he didn't commit.

You know how there's that whole freedom of speech thing? But you still can't yell fire in a crowded theater, well it's kinda the same thing when you commit espionage, believe it or not. No one is trying to set this POS up, he did what he did. The military guy will be tried and convicted, and has a good chance of being executed for these crimes, the UCMJ works much differently then civilian law. And if he isn't executed for treason, if he is ever released he'll be tried for espionage in the civilian court system. As for the wiki leaks guy, he's wanted just about everywhere, and there are even rumors spreading online that he's already been arrested in GB. His website was shut down in the US and he had to move it to a server in another country and is now begging hackers to leave him alone. The only medal he deserves will be the medal around his wrists and the medal in the bars of his cell for the rest of his life.

[ariscus99 1]

Wikileaks is now fighting for it's life, seems not too many people think this website is all that patriotic. Like I said in the other post, there are rumors circulating that julian was arrested today or yesterday in GB.

[Mariasha 3]

Wikileaks is now fighting for it's life, seems not too many people think this website is all that patriotic. Like I said in the other post, there are rumors circulating that julian was arrested today or yesterday in GB.

So much for freedom of speech. In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble.

[ariscus99 1]

So much for freedom of speech. In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble.

He is not an American, nor is he in America, nor are his servers in America, our rights do not extend to other countries. Go hang out in N.Korea for awhile and exercise your "freedom of speech" and see how that works out for you. What these two did extends beyond our borders, it affected several countries, all of whom have different freedom's and speech isn't always one of them. And if truth and can become treason and you think that is the downfall of our nation, why do we keep any secrets? Maybe all government officials should all have to walk around with camera's and microphones on and stream live to the web 24/7 so there are no secrets anymore right? Why do we need military personnel to obtain top secret clearance levels? We can do away with that because there should be no secrets whatsoever right? Your so far out there it mind boggling.

[Mariasha 3]

He is not an American, nor is he in America, nor are his servers in America, our rights do not extend to other countries.

I guess you must have missed the news about the deartmemt of homeland security pressuring Amazon to remove Wikileaks content from their servers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101201/wr_nm/us_wikileaks_amazon

[ariscus99 1]

I guess you must have missed the news about the deartmemt of homeland security pressuring Amazon to remove Wikileaks content from their servers.

http://news.yahoo.co...ikileaks_amazon

Sounds like Amazon is using it's freedom to boycott something that is wrong. I don't care if the government needed to help them see that they were protecting someone who is a threat to the security of our troops and people from all over the world.

[Mariasha 3]

Great piece on the Wikileaks cables and American policy.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2010/116041-valerie_plame_wikileaks-0/

[ariscus99 1]

I guess you must have missed the news about the deartmemt of homeland security pressuring Amazon to remove Wikileaks content from their servers.

http://news.yahoo.co...ikileaks_amazon

Also this little part..

Amazon denied it was under pressure from lawmakers, saying WikiLeaks had breached its terms by not owning the rights to the content it was publishing. But U.S. Senate Homeland Security Committee chairman Joe Lieberman questioned Amazon about its relationship with WikiLeaks on Tuesday and called on other companies that host websites to boycott WikiLeaks.

[loserbob 11]

Also this little part..

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Go Amazon!

Talk about stimulating the economy, Im going to buy something from Amazon.com now. Way to go Amazon.< /p>