so i have been naughty

[lovemysgt 4]

i am suppose to be on mushies. i just cant deal with it so i have been eating regular food and chewing it like crazy not one thing has got stuck <thank god> but is this bad? i havent strayed too bad like i have been eating steak,potatoes,eggs, nothing real big. i just dont like pureeing things.

[reverie 49]

How long ago were you banded? I doubt you did serious damage but with the food you're eating your stomach has to contract more to digest it, which could throw off the healing of your band.

Maybe call your doctor and ask if solids are okay, or ask if you can do mushies and then one meal of solids? I couldn't imagine eating steak when I was eating mushies.

In any case you're probably fine.

[ledgins 0]

I am supposed to be on mushies too....I did eat a bite of BBQ ribs last night, but I chewed it until it was almost liquid!! I also put some hamburger meat in the food chopper and mixed it with A-1 steak sauce.. It was pretty good too..but it was chopped very fine..couldn't imagine eating steak right now it is to tough to chew that well.

[lovemysgt 4]

i put the steak in the food processor. I am on pureed week. i was banded on sept 13

[ElfiePoo 109]

My surgeon puts his patients on the various stages over a 14 day period so by the end of two weeks I was back on regular food. I never had to go through bandster hell either because he tells his patience "eat if you're hungry". As someone who has a Lapband himself, he knows full well that if we could limit ourselves to a cup of food at a meal without restriction, we wouldn't have needed to do the band at all. He did, however, suggest some restraint and to make good food choices.

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[Shay7997 0]

Advancing foods too quickly can cause slippage. The reason this can happen is because there hasn't been enough time for scar tissue to build up around the band and the more solid the food is, the more your stomach has to move to digest it.

A lot of people will come on here and say they advanced and they are fine. The thing is, the slip may not happen right off. It could happen months from now because your band moved ever so slightly. Then again, you may end up being fine. But is a maybe worth it?

People come on here and they want to hear what they do is ok, but the truth is, it's not. We're supposed to use this healing time as a time to establish new habits and learn self-control. Why would you want to get this surgery done and risk even the slightest possibility of doing something to screw it up over a piece of steak?

I'm not trying to be rude or mean or even discouraging, but I just don't get it.

[ElfiePoo 109]

A lot of people will come on here and say they advanced and they are fine. The thing is, the slip may not happen right off. It could happen months from now because your band moved ever so slightly. Then again, you may end up being fine. But is a maybe worth it?

If you read through this forum, you'll find that postop food requirements vary according to doctors. Some doctors put their patients back on regular food within days. My surgeon had me back on regular foods within 2 weeks. Some people are not back on regular foods for 30 days. And there are even some surgeons who make their patients stay on total liquids for 30 days.

My surgeon has done over 7,000 band surgeries and been doing this for years. He has a band of his own. To date he has only had 3 slippages which turned out to be because these 3 patients were bulemics and seriously throwing up several times a day. He also warns his patients that if they get a flu or something where they're throwing up, to come in and get completely unfilled.

When I asked him what the possibility of slippage (because people on here were scaring me about being on solids at 2 weeks), he said 'unlikely' unless I'm a bulemic or totally disregard the warning signs (getting stuck or urping up the stuck item several times a day) meaning I'm not chewing well or taking small enough bites...or maybe just that I'm overfilled.

Yes, you should listen to your doc but if you do cheat, at least be reasonable and stop doing what you're doing if it causes you pain.

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[lovemysgt 4]

well i am on pureed i dont see that much of a differnce other then it is turned to mush if i sit there and chew it forever tell me whats the differnce. how it can slip? i guess i am confused by the difference. all i am eating right now is tuna, eggs with salsa, avacados, i chew forever just to make sure everything is ok. i am not on liquids and eating real food. you see what i mean?

[Shay7997 0]

I have read the forum and I see that various doctors have various plans. I also fully believe that if your surgeon gives you a diet plan with a progression, you follow what he gives you and not what people on forums say is ok. Why is that? Because he's the doctor, not us. It's more important to do what the surgeon says.

The surgeon might know something we don't.

Your surgeon told you it's unlikely, but other surgeons say it's a very likely thing to happen early in the game. Again, more important to talk to your surgeon than to just do.

[ElfiePoo 109]

I have read the forum and I see that various doctors have various plans. I also fully believe that if your surgeon gives you a diet plan with a progression, you follow what he gives you and not what people on forums say is ok. Why is that? Because he's the doctor, not us. It's more important to do what the surgeon says.

My point is that postop requirements vary so obviously there is no one right way to do things. Thus, scaring people with 'slippage' makes no sense.

My personal view is that if you can't stick to the postop instructions because they're so restriction, then be honest with your doctor and tell him so. You might also ask why he's so restrictive when obviously other doctors are not. Don't keep your doc in the dark.

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[Shay7997 0]

Have some ice cream and a hug :smile:

[lovemysgt 4]

i dont think i am doing that bad it isn't like i am going to a resturant and ordering a hamburger and french fries and trying to eat it. my food is soft just not liquidified. i chew it until there is hardley anything left. i mean tuna, eggs, other fish one night i had steak but it was turned in to ground beef before i ate it. then i chewed it until it was almost gone then swallowed.

[Tsaleen 1]

i dont think i am doing that bad it isn't like i am going to a resturant and ordering a hamburger and french fries and trying to eat it. my food is soft just not liquidified. i chew it until there is hardley anything left. i mean tuna, eggs, other fish one night i had steak but it was turned in to ground beef before i ate it. then i chewed it until it was almost gone then swallowed.

Lovesmygt,

I think you miss the point about the mushie stage. Your stomach has to work harder to digest the more solid foods you may be eating, regardless of how well you chew. The churning and contractions of your stomach working harder can cause the problem. You are on a specific diet progress to allow time for your sutures to heal where the band is stitched in place. Just keep that in mind, and limit your bad choices if you can!

[stateofzen 46]

Shay, I'm kind of with you on this one.

For me personally, I feel like every time I think about "cheating" the system in some way what I'm really doing is cheating myself out of what the band can do for me. I trusted my surgeon with cutting me open and messing with my stomach-- I have to trust him that his plan for me is a good one, whatever that plan may be, and not shop around on the forums for one I like better. Sure, I could challenge the band by trying to eat things "just to see if I still can", but what would I be winning there? Just a first-class ticket back to fatland.

I'm not saying that I'm perfect or we're perfect, but I am saying that for me, to really succeed I have to stop myself from trying to "test" the band by eating things I know I'm not supposed to. I'm sure sometimes I will not be able to win that battle, but I'd encourage people to really ask themselves why they feel the need to go their own way. Obviously, our own way of eating hasn't worked out too well for us pre-band :smile:

[lovemysgt 4]

Lovesmygt,

I think you miss the point about the mushie stage. Your stomach has to work harder to digest the more solid foods you may be eating, regardless of how well you chew. The churning and contractions of your stomach working harder can cause the problem. You are on a specific diet progress to allow time for your sutures to heal where the band is stitched in place. Just keep that in mind, and limit your bad choices if you can!

i see what you are say thanks i guess your right i have been pretty confused with all this and i hate the look of pureed food reminds me of canned dog food. i hope i havent done anything to hurt my stomach or the stitches. my first doc appointment is tomorrow. guess i'll find out huh

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