La_madam 20 Posted November 23, 2005 This may sound strange but since I found out about my erosion it has gotten me thinking...... Almost all of the erosion cases I have heard about here and on other boards have all be from MX surgeons. There is something to be said about that. Could it be their technique in placing the band? Could it be the band itself? I know Inamed has a MX Inamed site with a MX distributor. Could they be made differently? Think about it ..all of the eroded bandsters here on LBt that I know of..Donali, Francesca, Karen, Catfanlover, myself and a few others I can not recall their names were all banded in Mexico. I even know of a few who are not on this board but were banded in MX and have had erosion. I can not recall one bandster that I know of who eroded and had surgery in the U.S. Are there any bandsters here who have eroded that had surgery in the U.S. ? If so please post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
princess_n_thep 2 Posted November 23, 2005 I do have to say that I have noticed this. And to be honest, I am scared shitless! I am not at a point where I could be at peace. Losing my band would devastate me. I would lose it completely right now. But I am scared, scared, scared!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the best me 6 Posted November 23, 2005 Scared here, too. The only reasoning that makes sense is that MX bandsters find out about MX docs on the boards, so they are tied into online support and that's what you see posting. US bandsters are not always on the boards...that makes no sense. We have a TON of US bandsters here. Is Inamed selling a substandard product to MX surgeons? Hmmmmm... Also, I do know that Kuri used the Pars Flaccida Approach on me for my surgery. This is apparently the way US docs are trained now, it lessens the chances of slippage. Dr Pleatman explained it but I couldn't repeat it without looking it up. The technique seems to be up to par. Perhaps the product isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aneffie53 0 Posted November 23, 2005 Could it be that banding in Mexico began before it was approved in the U.S. So it's a length of time with the band issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iluvharleys 15 Posted November 23, 2005 I thought of the same thing after reading your post Michelle. I wonder on some of the other boards how many might be from US. This might be something to look into. It just makes me want to cry everytime I hear of someone who loses their band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomorrowsdream 0 Posted November 23, 2005 As you know I came on here dead set against being banded in Mexico. I still feel strongly that it isn't what I want, but everything here is beginning to take it's toll on me. I do know one thing. The lap bands used in Mexico are not FDA approved. I learned that from my own dr. who has researched it. Now, once again I'm rethinking my options, but they seem so limited. I'm glad you posted this though. I was thinking of Dr. Rumbolt in Mexico and talked to his person here in the states. She has been banded for 5 years with no problem, but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot that get eroded. I'm right back at square one in my thinking. It seems like anytime I say anything about banding in Mexico it gets removed from the board..........not sure why. They are merely questions that I have, and they are legitimate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the best me 6 Posted November 23, 2005 Could it be that banding in Mexico began before it was approved in the U.S. So it's a length of time with the band issue? Good thought, but Michelle was banded what, a year and a half ago? And the other folks a bit longer, but certainly not 10 or so years ago when MX first started doing bands. I don't know. tomorrow's dream: are you sure stuff is getting removed from the board? That is just so odd around here, no kidding! Unless the person who started the thread also deletes the thread for some reason, the moderators certianly don't delete stuff. It has to be for some legal/ethical matter, not an opinion or question about Mx, for sure! Crapola. I hate this. Here are the strikes against me. 1)banded in MX 2)super-tight post-surgery with reflux and esophogitis, although resolved within the first 8 or so weeks 3)the smallest band there is. Could I have more against me but time? How many foks with the VG band have ever eroded that we know of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theresa2mum 0 Posted November 23, 2005 Could it be that banding in Mexico began before it was approved in the U.S. So it's a length of time with the band issue? If you really wanted to do some research on this, don't forget that banding has been in Australia around 10 years and I'm not sure how long in Europe. My surgeon definately said that there has been big changes in the way the band is applied that has greatly reduced the slipping and eroding (however, it does still happen). He mentioned it is put much higher now than the early days and more stitching. I would love to Google this...I'm sure there would be heaps about it. Unfortunately, I'm sitting uni exams atm...and really should be studying lol. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandra 55 Posted November 23, 2005 I do know one thing. The lap bands used in Mexico are not FDA approved. I think it's more accurate to say that not ALL of the bands used in Mexico are FDA approved. Some people banded in Mexico do get the Inamed band with the 4cc capacity, which until fairly recently was the ONLY type approved by the FDA for use in the U.S. Whether any Mexico docs are using the Vanguard band or not, I don't know, but that one is now approved as well. As for whether there have been U.S. erosions, of course there have. My doctors' practice has had two, I believe (out of several hundred bands placed in the last four+ years). It does seem as though the proportions are skewed, Michelle, you're right. I wish I knew the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJChick 3 Posted November 23, 2005 You know I was wondering the same thing Michelle. No lie, I woke up at 3 am thinking about you. Good luck on your research but mostly your in my prayers. Hugs !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's me-Debbydo 0 Posted November 23, 2005 MAybe the US FDA has higher standards. I would ask Inamed and the FDA???? God I hope not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyNana 10 Posted November 23, 2005 Michelle, I think everyone must have thought about you and Jon before or after they drifted off to sleep last night. You're such a wise and strong woman. Thank you again for all of your knowledge and support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seehawksimms 0 Posted November 23, 2005 please Note Definition of pars flacida approach: In the pars flaccida technique, band placement higher on the stomach results in the formation of a smaller pouch and lower rates of gastric prolapse, and it may contribute to greater weight loss and a better quality of life. This article describes the technical aspects of the pars flaccida approach in the laparoscopic placement of adjustable gastric bands. Here is the rest of the article. http://thinforlife.med.nyu.edu/assets/REN%202.pdf?RCD=J53039&NAME=Christine_J._Ren I think erosion is a result improper technique rather than inferior Inamed band products being released in Mx. Again, I am very sorry to hear about your erosion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyNana 10 Posted November 23, 2005 Wow, that was quite informative. I assumed the tummy was stitched all the way around the band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylansmom 27 Posted November 23, 2005 I thought the same thing. It does seem odd that Mexico has a lot more erosion than US. HHHMMMM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites