Let's have our own unofficial poll.

[pattygreen 5]

To answer your question, this kind:

Bush: 'Bring on' attackers of U.S. troops

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush said Wednesday that American troops under fire in Iraq aren't about to pull out, and he challenged those tempted to attack U.S. forces, "Bring them on."

Pres. Obama challenged the republican AG's to file a lawsuit they will lose, whereas bush challenged Al-Qaeda to attack our soldiers. Very mature. Probably as mature as looking under his oval office desk for WMD that soldiers died looking for.

It's one thing to say something like that to your ENEMIES! It's quite another to say that to your own fellow countrymen.

Edited March 27, 2010 by pattygreen

[BJean 16]

The President doesn't look at Americans - any Americans - as his enemies. He looks at them as his fellow citizens.

The fact that some folks disagree with him on certain issues is to be expected. But for governors of states to act like they have a case, when they know it is a bogus and illegal claim, is expected to generate some kind of response from the president. When he said bring it on, he meant that there is no way that a lawsuit like that has any merit in fact and if it is filed, he will welcome the chance to show the lunacy and political prejudice of it.

[pattygreen 5]

Ok, this one is a toss-up. I can’t decide which is more disgusting. Is it the picture of poor deceased Terri Schiavo, the actual picture of someone’s grandmother in their coffin, or using a graphic photo of the Twin Towers in flames. Maybe its the fact that they had the nerve have an American flag and a quote from the Bible on this entire piece of crap.

So now Nancy Pelosi is a Nazi too?

The sign was held by a 16 year old kid.

According to Andrew Sullivan the protestor is comparing an attempt to privately ensure millions of people currently uninsured is the equivalent of this:

Action T4 (German: Aktion T4) was a program, also called Euthanasia Program, in Nazi Germany spanning October 1939 until August 1941, during which physicians killed 70,273 people specified in Hitler’s secret memo of September 1, 1939 as suffering patients “judged incurably sick, by critical medical examination”, but described in a denunciation of the program by Cardinal Galen as long-term inmates of mental asylums “who may appear incurable”.

Wouldn't be a teabag party with out a birther sign

more birther fun

Just in time for Halloween, it's the hearse from the Munsters

Shout-out to Dick Cheney

Just had to give this sign an honorable mention...

Back to the 'signs" now are we? I thought holding signs were okay with you - when I posted the liberal signs that were far more disgusting, you had no problem with them. Peaceful protests were okay. It was the violence you didn't like. What a hypocrite. "conservatives can't do what liberals do because only liberals do it right!"

[Cleo's Mom 257]

My point with the signs and with the teabaggers is this: I don't care if they hate Obama, are racist, think he wasn't born here, want him impeached, etc..

My point is I am sick and tired of the media portraying them and they portraying themselves as just your everyday average person who is angry and fed up with the government. THAT IS BULLS**T. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

They are phoneys. Have been from day one. I just wish they would be honest and say they hate Obama, didn't vote for him and don't want a black man in the white house.

They are phoneys because the man who started one of the earliest tea party groups had his sign with the N word 38 days after Obama took office. So it had NOTHING to do with policy and everything to do with the man. (SEE BELOW)

This is how the tea party started. Then they tried to say it was about spending, the deficit, healthcare. Those were just all smokescreens to disguise their hatred of Obama. Plus so many of these people have shown how incredibly stupid they are about these issues. They don't even have a clue about the taxes they pay.

All of these things took place under bush. The surplus turned into a deficit with runaway spending on 2 tax cuts for the rich, a big giveaway to Pharma, and 2 wars. NOT A PEEP OUT OF THESE PEOPLE. BECAUSE BUSH WAS THEIR MAN, WHITE AND REPUBLICAN, JUST LIKE THEY LIKE 'EM.

But the teabaggers are cowards. They don't want to show their true colors and they write off the racists signs, the offensive signs, the violence, etc... as just a few bad apples.

I don't believe that to be the case. I think it is the whole movement, whose goal is to take over this government and give it to the rich and corporate america, which is what the republicans do best.

One thing I've noticed about these people - and I've posted some of these signs for comic relief - is that they can't spell worth s**t. They seriously need to take a remedial spelling course. Well, maybe when Pres. Obama fixes NCLB, they can qualify.

Edited March 27, 2010 by Cleo's Mom

[LeighaMason 19]

The thing that bothered me the most about Patty's sign posts was that if you look closely at them a large number of them were in foreign cities. Foreigners (that we are not at war with, some are even our allies) who want to hang our president. For reference, when was the last time you saw an American with a sign who wanted to hang one of our foreign allies presidents (not someone we were at war with)? How many Americans can even name a foreign president?

[Cleo's Mom 257]

I wouldn't be surprised. She's the one who thought of it.

I have a feeling that she doesn't understand the term "impeach"

As for Cleo's post with all the signs, it's obvious that some of those signs were professionally made. And some of the slogans are too politically saavy to just come from some random citizen who's disgruntled with the health care reform bill.

I feel sure that there is some really big money behind a lot of this. Smacks of the same nasty political thinking as the Swift Boat freaks.

They say: Follow the money $$$

From an organizational point of view, the tea parties are a prime example of “astroturfing”, top-down machinations operating under the guise of a faux grassroots movement—like a phony, conservative version of MoveOn.org, but operated by a corporate puppetmaster. In this case, as was reported in The Atlantic and ThinkProgress, they are being led by corporate lobbyist-run, Republican-affiliated front groups and think-tanks: FreedomWorks, a conservative action group led by former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey; the free-market group Americans For Prosperity, and the online-oriented, free-market group DontGo Movement, which was born out of last year’s offshore drilling debate in Congress. These organizations are writing the press releases and talking points, thinking up the ideas for the signs, setting up the conference calls, you name it.

Americans For Prosperity operates through the generosity of philanthropies such as the ultra-conservative Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation (which bankrolled Ward Connerly’s anti-affirmative action ballot initiatives, and The Bell Curve author Charles Murray), and the pro-oil drilling Koch Family foundations.

In accordance with the interests of Armey’s client base FreedomWorks has lobbied for the privatization of Social Security, and the deregulation of the life insurance industry. It supports the status quo in America’s use of fossil fuels, and has lobbied against healthcare reform. Further, FreedomWorks has received funding from telephone giants Verizon and AT&T, and has opposed net neutrality legislation that would keep the Internet democratic and open. One FreedomWorks funder is the Scaife Foundation, from Richard Mellon Scaife, key patron of the American Right.

[pattygreen 5]

{quote] They are phoneys. Have been from day one. I just wish they would be honest and say they hate Obama, didn't vote for him and don't want a black man in the white house.

So, here it is in a nutshell. You are a racist. You don't like white people. Your paranoid thinking is based on your belief that ALL white people have it out for black people. Otherwise, "why wouldn't they like Obama? It has to be because he's a black man". Did it ever occur to you that it's because he's an inexperienced, lying kind of person who has no clue about what he's doing?! I will be perfectly honest and say that I am sure there are some white people out there who just don't like black people, and it works the other way around, but let's face it, being black was not an issue with this president's election. HE WON!!!! The issue is his policies now, and you need to get your head out of the sand, because your hatred for white people, because you think that they don't like Obama because he's black, is clouding reality. He is not liked because he doesn't listen to those he works for. He is bringing this country another step closer to socialism through this HC plan of his, and we don't want that. His administration is spending! Spending! Spending!!!!!! Spending sooooo much, soooo fast, that our heads are spinning from the expense of it all. Our children are doomed to indebtedness forever! He lies all the time. People hate lying. He seems arrogant and prideful to me. Sorry, but I call it like I see it. The color of his skin is not the reason for why the people are against him. You need to face reality. It almost seems as if you wished that were the real reason for their disgust towards him. Would that make you feel better or something? Do you want the people to hate blacks or something? Will it justify something for you?

[Cleo's Mom 257]

{quote] They are phoneys. Have been from day one. I just wish they would be honest and say they hate Obama, didn't vote for him and don't want a black man in the white house.

So, here it is in a nutshell. You are a racist.How could I be a racist? I have voted for both white and black candidates. You don't like white people. Just a silly, ridiculous thing to say. It doesn't even make any sense. Your paranoid thinking is based on your belief that ALL white people have it out for black people.Not true. The white people who voted for Obama didn't. Otherwise, "why wouldn't they like Obama? It has to be because he's a black man". Did it ever occur to you that it's because he's an inexperienced, lying kind of person who has no clue about what he's doing?!Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced. But then again, I guess compared to sarah palin's experience and knowledge I could see how it would pale. I will be perfectly honest and say that I am sure there are some white people out there who just don't like black people, and it works the other way around, but let's face it, being black was not an issue with this president's election. HE WON!!!!He won because both white people and black people voted for him. These are not the white people who belong to the tea party. The issue is his policies now, and you need to get your head out of the sand, because your hatred for white people,so, I hate myself? You are just too wierd. because you think that they don't like Obama because he's black, is clouding reality.These white teabagger did not vote for Obama. They voted for mccain. He is not liked because he doesn't listen to those he works for. He is bringing this country another step closer to socialism through this HC plan of his, and we don't want that. His administration is spending! Spending! Spending!!!!!! Spending sooooo much, soooo fast, that our heads are spinning from the expense of it all. Our children are doomed to indebtedness forever!Oh, yes, that old "our poor children will be paying,etc.." Yes, they will - for the cost of the Iraq war for a long time to come and not just in terms of $$$. He lies all the time. People hate lying. He seems arrogant and prideful to me.

He is one of the most humble presidents we've ever had. Also Jimmy Carter. Obama is just smart and sorry you aren't used to that after 8 years of dumb, arrogant and swaggering bush. Sorry, but I call it like I see it. So do I. The color of his skin is not the reason for why the people are against him.Yes, it is. That and that he is a liberal democrat. You need to face reality. It almost seems as if you wished that were the real reason for their disgust towards him. Would that make you feel better or something? Do you want the people to hate blacks or something?They do. Did you not see the n****r sign 38 days after he took office by a tea party organizer? You are in such denial. Grow up. Will it justify something for you?

But I am going to give you a warning. If you call me a racist one more time, I am going to report you.

[pattygreen 5]

Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced.

Yeah, because he did it in his usual way of wheeling and dealing. He used back door deals, bribery, payoffs, deceitfulness, trickery, handwashing and scheaming. This is how he was used to doing business back in Chicago. He is corrupt.

[pattygreen 5]

My daughter is a black person, who voted for Obama, and now regrets that decision and agrees with the tea partiers. So, what you say is not true. Not all tea partiers voted for McCain. Not all are white, either.

BTW, I can't even count the number of times you have called me a racist because I am a white, right, conservative. You must think all of us are racist.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

My daughter is a black person, who voted for Obama, and now regrets that decision and agrees with the tea partiers. So, what you say is not true. Not all tea partiers voted for McCain. Not all are white, either.

BTW, I can't even count the number of times you have called me a racist because I am a white, right, conservative. You must think all of us are racist.

I have never called you personally a racist. I have called the teabaggers that, though. And I stand by that label.

So, you cited one person who voted for Obama and now joins the teabaggers. That does not make a trend. There are those on these boards who voted for bush and regretted it. It happens both ways, but that is not what the tea party is about.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced.

Yeah, because he did it in his usual way of wheeling and dealing. He used back door deals, bribery, payoffs, deceitfulness, trickery, handwashing and scheaming. This is how he was used to doing business back in Chicago. He is corrupt.

Actually he got things done by -now hold on- BECAUSE HE WAS VOTED IN BY A BIG MAJORITY AND WAS SPENDING HIS CAPITAL- AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE THE MAJORITY AND MAJORITY RULES.

But should you be naive enough to think the republicans don't engage in back room deals here are two examples that happened recently:

Republican Sen. Christopher Bond, R-MO, put a hold on the appointment of Martha Johnson to the General Service Administration (a non-political position) to pressure the government into approving a building project in Kansas City.

Republican Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala. - has placed a hold on all outstanding Obama administration nominations- about 70 high level government positions - until his state gets a tanker contract and a counterterrorism center.

Edited March 28, 2010 by Cleo's Mom

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced.

Yeah, because he did it in his usual way of wheeling and dealing. He used back door deals, bribery, payoffs, deceitfulness, trickery, handwashing and scheaming. This is how he was used to doing business back in Chicago. He is corrupt.

from the new republic:

If you want to see true manipulation of the legislative process, you have to go back to late 2003--and the push to get the Medicare drug bill through the House of Representatives. The Republicans famously waited until the last minute to release a bill and, as I understand it, did not bother to post a version online. Democratic staffers told me recently they had to scan the bill, by hand, in order to send it around. (Note: I couldn't find any accounts of the articles about this episode, but it's consistent with what I remember hearing at the time.) When it came time to vote, the Republicans discovered they didn’t have enough support to pass the bill. Their solution? Hold the voting open past the usual fifteen minutes, until they could persuade enough members to switch their votes. An hour went by, then another, and then another.

The New York Times would later describe what transpired as "an extraordinary bout of Republican arm-twisting." At one point, then House Majority Leader Tom DeLay approached Nick Smith, a Republican congressman from Michigan, and offered to endorse his son’s congressional candidacy if Smith would vote “aye.” Smith would later allege that he was offered more than endorsement. Specifically, he said that somebody offered to dump $100,000 into his son’s campaign funds--a promise that might have constituted bribery. Smith never said whether it was DeLay or somebody else; indeed, he eventually retracted the accusation altogether. But many observers suspect the bribe was offered and, in any event, a House ethics panel eventually reprimanded DeLay simply for offering the endorsement. (Slate’s Timothy Noah was all over the story, if you want to read the clips.)

The architects of the Medicare drug bill also seem to have engaged in some intimidation. In the summer before the vote, at a time when Republicans were promising their bill would cost only $400 billion, Richard Foster, the official actuary for Medicare, made his own projection and concluded it would cost much more, between $500 and $600 billion. The difference might have been enough to alienate some fiscal conservatives and, given the tight margins, enough to kill the bill altogether.

The projection had been made by the request of members of Congress. But Tom Scully, who was then head of Medicare and Medicaid services, ordered Foster not to share that information. Foster would later testify that Scully threatened to fire him if he disobeyed; a Democratic congressional staffer said that Scully told her he’d “fire [Foster] so fast his head will spin” if Foster reported the estimates. Scully denied saying such things, but an internal government investigation determined that Scully had indeed made the threat. (It also determined that the threat was not illegal, since, by law, Scully had the right to control the flow of information to Congress.)

Reprimands, threats.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced.

Yeah, because he did it in his usual way of wheeling and dealing. He used back door deals, bribery, payoffs, deceitfulness, trickery, handwashing and scheaming. This is how he was used to doing business back in Chicago. He is corrupt.

DeLay admonished by ethics subcommittee after offering to endorse congressman's son in exchange for his vote

DeLay admonished for offering endorsement of Smith's vote in exchange for his vote. In September 2004, a House ethics subcommittee admonished then-Majority Leader Tom DeLay after the subcommittee concluded that DeLay had told then-Rep. Nick Smith (R-MI) he would endorse the congressional bid of Smith's son if Smith voted for the prescription drug benefit. According to the ethics committee's report, DeLay testified to the subcommittee "that he did say words to the effect of: 'I will personally endorse your son. That's my final offer.'

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Actually, he has gotten about 93% of his bills in congress passed and done something no other president has been able to do. Pass healthcare reform. Not bad for someone who is inexperienced.

Yeah, because he did it in his usual way of wheeling and dealing. He used back door deals, bribery, payoffs, deceitfulness, trickery, handwashing and scheaming. This is how he was used to doing business back in Chicago. He is corrupt.

Obama healthcare plan nixes Ben Nelson's 'Cornhusker Kickback' deal

By Jordan Fabian - 02/22/10 11:00 AM ET

President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform proposal released Monday eliminates controversial funds given to Nebraska as part of a deal to win the support of centrist Sen. Ben Nelson (D).